Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Beasty · 10-10-2020 10:13PM

Ce he sin wrote: »

Only if you compare the deaths today with the new cases today. People do not usually die the day they test positive .

Without doubt there is a significant delay between cases being reported and alas people dying from this disease. I think there are a couple more factors that hopefully will help keep the deaths consequential to current infections relatively low

1. We are almost certainly testing a lot more people with limited symptoms compared to March/April when things were particularly bad. There must have been very many cases back then that never appeared in the stats
2. As we start to better understand this virus how we treat it improves. That will improve the prognosis for many who chances of survival in the early days may have been not particularly good

MerlinSouthDub · 10-10-2020 10:14PM

majcos wrote: »

HSE operations report for 10/10

198 in hospital
30 in ICU with 19 of those ventilated
2 deaths in ICU last 24 hours.

Confirmed cases in all (adult) hospital.

Sad to see the deaths in ICU

Dublin hospitals stable at 79, has hardly moved over the past 2 weeks. 14 of the 29 new cases in hospital were in border counties - Cavan plus Letterkenny

Harry Palmr · 10-10-2020 10:15PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

To be honest I'd be hopeful that this will turn out to be overstated.

If anything can be deduced it's the opposite right now. Long covid is probably the secret "illness". People feeling crap but not making it known to doctors so it's not recorded.

eagle eye · 10-10-2020 10:15PM

is_that_so wrote:

When the numbers can be more obviously linked to adult behaviour it's a lot harder to implicate schools.

There's a huge percentage of unlinked numbers.

niallo27 · 10-10-2020 10:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I work in a supermarket that follows all the guidelines, I feel safer in the gym.

Nice username.

majcos · 10-10-2020 10:16PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are we hitting capacity?

No. 39 available critical care beds available but some hospitals have none available including CUH and the Mercy, Letterkenny, Portiuncla, Portlaoise, and Castlebar.

565 general beds available.

US2 · 10-10-2020 10:16PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Course I am, but being healthy is important. Loads of high profile footballers have got it and don't seem to have any lasting affects on them.

Four of my friends tested positive last month, one a seriously obese cocaine addict. None had any symptoms whatsoever.

niallo27 · 10-10-2020 10:18PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If anything can be deduced it's the opposite right now. Long covid is probably the secret "illness". People feeling crap but not making it known to doctors so it's not recorded.

Not discrediting what you say, but a hell a lot of us feel crap, the pressure of having no work, no end date in site for this, not seeing family and friends, no social life. I feel like crap and I have never had covid.

Icyseanfitz · 10-10-2020 10:19PM

Nonoperational wrote: »

To be honest I'd be hopeful that this will turn out to be overstated.

As the saying goes, hope for the best, prepare for the worst, this virus is only a year old, we know next to nothing about it even now.

Away With The Fairies · 10-10-2020 10:20PM

majcos wrote: »

No. 39 available critical care beds available but some hospitals have none available including CUH and the Mercy, Letterkenny, Portiuncla, Portlaoise, and Castlebar.

565 general beds available.

CUH and the Mercy, both in Cork and increasing cases in Cork? What the fcuk?

Cluedo Monopoly · 10-10-2020 10:20PM

The HSE and hospitals are a disaster zone every winter. Successive FF and FG governments have failed to tackle it.

This is an article from December 2019 before Covid ever hit.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30970266.html

The number of admitted patients waiting for a bed on a Friday has shot up by more than 50% in the past year, latest figures show.

Members of the Irish Nurses and Midwives Organisation counted 608 admitted patients waiting on trolleys in emergency departments and on wards.

An INMO spokesman said it is one of the worst Fridays they have ever seen.

"It sets the scene for the winter," he warned.

The county's public acute hospitals are coming under increased pressure with more flu cases, respiratory viruses and the winter vomiting bug.

The public never seemed to get angry about this annual situation. I am not sure why.

dpaulod · 10-10-2020 10:23PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Sorry to break it to you but it is true.

Picked it up back in march along with six colleagues we were all back to work 14 days later. No issues. Health care workers. Stop talking rubbish

Nonoperational · 10-10-2020 10:23PM

gmisk wrote: »

I wish I had your optimism. I lot of the early studies aren't exactly promising.

I have had pneumonia before, it can really have a longer lasting effect.

Yep pneumonia is a significant illness, however most young healthy people who get covid do not get significant pneumonia.

Harry Palmr wrote: »

If anything can be deduced it's the opposite right now. Long covid is probably the secret "illness". People feeling crap but not making it known to doctors so it's not recorded.

I guess it depends on what you define as having lasting effects. If you are fatigued for a while that is one thing, but we need to look at hard markers at defined intervals from diagnosis. Things like lung scaring, heart damage etc. In my experience these are still very rare in young healthy people. The vast majority of young people with covid don't ever see a hospital. That's important to remember.

testtech05 · 10-10-2020 10:24PM

US2 wrote: »

Four of my friends tested positive last month, one a seriously obese cocaine addict. None had any symptoms whatsoever.

A guy where I work tested positive last month and has since passed away. He was a very fit 51 year old gentleman. It really seems to effect people somewhat randomly.....

I'm happy your friends are all ok but not everyone is so lucky!!

eagle eye · 10-10-2020 10:25PM

Harry Palmr wrote:

If anything can be deduced it's the opposite right now. Long covid is probably the secret "illness". People feeling crap but not making it known to doctors so it's not recorded.

I don't mind people saying we don't know enough about the virus and that there are cases of extreme lethargy, organ issues and breathing difficulties in some asymptomatic patients long after the virus has left their bodies.
What you are saying though is bordering on conspiracy theory stuff.
Simple fact is we don't know enough about it yet. There's no answers as to why people are ending up with those illnesses or Pims in kids either.
For now that's the way things are. Some people have assigned the tag 'long covid' to these illnesses but I don't like it because they are starkly different illnesses.
In time our experts will hopefully figure all this stuff out.
The big issue is that many people really don't understand how little we know about it and how there's potential.long term consequences for everybody until we know more about it.

stephenjmcd · 10-10-2020 10:25PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'd rather nothing, no lasting issues or deaths. Gyms are the worst place to be right now. An hour's workout, huffing and puffing and spreading covid, no thanks.

Except if you go at times there's nobody there.

Mine reopened on Thursday, was up at 11am, loads of work done to it, 2m plus between all the equipment, clean the equipment after you've used it plus cleaners going around.

About 20 of us in it, will be booking a few slots for this week, felt great to be back and all precautions taken

majcos · 10-10-2020 10:26PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

CUH and the Mercy, both in Cork and increasing cases in Cork? What the fcuk?

Only one confirmed Covid case (and one suspected) in ICU in CUH and no confirmed Covid cases in ICU in Mercy so Cork ICUs full for other reasons.

10-10-2020 10:27PM

US2 wrote: »

Four of my friends tested positive last month, one a seriously obese cocaine addict. None had any symptoms whatsoever.

Strange, coke addicts are normally skinny.

Goldrickssan · 10-10-2020 10:27PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

The HSE and hospitals are a disaster zone every winter. Successive FF and FG governments have failed to tackle it.

This is an article from December 2019 before Covid ever hit.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-30970266.html

The public never seemed to get angry about this annual situation. I am not sure why.

HSE is rotten at the top, the government have thrown money at them for years with feck all results.

It needs to be gutted.

Atlantic Dawn · 10-10-2020 10:28PM

The Snapper has started, some normality

Goldengirl · 10-10-2020 10:28PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

CUH and the Mercy, both in Cork and increasing cases in Cork? What the fcuk?

That has been the case for the last couple of days unfortunately .
@ majcos , a proportion of those ICU beds are reserved for post OP patients major surgery so not ' available ' in the true sense , as far as I know .

Cluedo Monopoly · 10-10-2020 10:30PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

HSE is rotten at the top, the government have thrown money at them for years with feck all results.

It needs to be gutted.

True but that wont happen now. It should have happened years ago. It was set up to fail. Successive FF and FG governments have acknowledged that but failed to reform it. Massive massive waste in a complete bureaucracy.

Kermit.de.frog · 10-10-2020 10:30PM

The HSE should order 3 million doses of Regeneron from the Trump administration.

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1314297485318217728

Get ahead of the stampede I say.

landofthetree · 10-10-2020 10:30PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

True but that wont happen now. It should have happened years ago. It was set up to fail. Successive FF and FG governments have acknowledged that but failed to reform it. Massive massive waste in a complete bureaucracy.

Sorry but any non FF FG hasnt any excuse not to reform it.

Spiderman0081 · 10-10-2020 10:31PM

jackboy wrote: »

Could be worse. A guy on joe Duffy the other day claimed it was punishment from god for introduction of abortion ðŸ˜‚

Are you laughing at the thought that there is a god or if there was, he would find abortion distasteful?

Cluedo Monopoly · 10-10-2020 10:31PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Sorry but any non FF FG hasnt any excuse not to reform it.

Your treble negative has me utterly confused. What are you trying to say?

jackboy · 10-10-2020 10:34PM

Spiderman0081 wrote: »

Are you laughing at the thought that there is a god or if there was, he would find abortion distasteful?

Eh no, I am laughing at the guy on Joe Duffy.

majcos · 10-10-2020 10:36PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

That has been the case for the last couple of days unfortunately .
@ majcos , a proportion of those ICU beds are reserved for post OP patients major surgery so not ' available ' in the true sense , as far as I know .

Yes. There may be some beds reserved for major surgery. Currently reserved beds counted in the operation report total four beds nationwide.

Obviously not good if system reaches so much pressure that major surgeries are cancelled because of lack of availability of an ICU bed in particular hospital.

mousblaster17 · 10-10-2020 10:38PM

US2 wrote: »

Four of my friends tested positive last month, one a seriously obese cocaine addict. None had any symptoms whatsoever.

Means jack sh1t. Just because you are asymptomatic does in no way mean you got off scot-free since the long term effects of covid are not yet full understood.

I myself only recently, after a heart MRI, discovered damage there as a result of pericarditis due to a virus I never even knew I had.

I thankfully have no complications from that damage but anyone thinking that catching this virus and being asymptomatic means you're fine in the long run, think again.

Strumms · 10-10-2020 10:38PM

dpaulod wrote: »

Not True

People who were young previously healthy but didn’t do something about covid in a timely manner have and are suffering permanent lung fibrosis. This is a condition that can be improved but in the main not reversible... athletes, young professionals, people in the prime of their lives have been diagnosed in this manner.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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