Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

stephenjmcd · 10-10-2020 10:20AM

Slovakia who months ago were put up as the way to crush covid in Europe are after reporting a record number of cases.

1887 from 11123 tests, safe to say with just 11k tests likely missing a hell of alot of cases.

Icyseanfitz · 10-10-2020 10:22AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I have four nieces and two nephews who are teachers ,They worked from March till June and did what needed doing and did it well .Not one of them would admit to working their asses off though .They worked their hours and were able to put in a wash and mind their children at the same time .

Okay, and i know of the opposite, like many places of work there are those that work hard, those that go above and beyond and those that do the minimum needed, labelling one entire sector of workers as lazy and undedicated because of a few bad workers is bull**** of the highest order.

robbiezero · 10-10-2020 10:23AM

screamer wrote: »

And so what? If they are getting their work done, and the company is not suffering because of WFH, it makes no difference where they are located. The small mindedness and desire to control staff seems to override common sense in a lot of companies where people are forced into the office, when they can be just as, if not more effective WFH. It also makes 0 sense from a business continuity perspective for staff to have to go to an office to perform duties they can do from home, and risk contracting covid19 for nothing more than to massage a manager’s ego.

I agree. I love WFH and in the future most of my work will be done that way and our office certainly doesn't appear to have lost productivity because of it.

The point is that restrictions have been almost beneficial for some e.g. a cohort of IT workers like myself, and a disaster for others

screamer · 10-10-2020 10:24AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I have four nieces and two nephews who are teachers ,They worked from March till June and did what needed doing and did it well .Not one of them would admit to working their asses off though .They worked their hours and were able to put in a wash and mind their children at the same time .

Being honest, people who do the bare minimum would be the same in the workplace or at home. I’ve managed enough people to know that for sure. Anyone that says they work their ass off every single day are either lying or need better training or time management skills. After all, working at such a pace constantly just leads to burnout or change of job, neither of which benefit the company. You’ll always have the bare minimals, the old reliables and the absolute go getters, covid doesn’t affect that.

polesheep · 10-10-2020 10:24AM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Still more complete disconnect from the real world.

Two weeks unpaid may mean one thing to you but for many in low paid work it’s a major issue.

Don’t go to work - don’t get paid and possibly get let go from your zero-contact job.

How is this difficult to comprehend? We’re sleep-walking into widening social division.

Education- the poorest will suffer most from lack of access to technology for online learning, and home situations adverse to schooling.

Health- if you’re private you have a chance of being scheduled for elective surgery or screening, if public you’ll be waiting an increasingly longer time, too long for some.

Housing- mortgage payment breaks have ended so you’re on your own with the banks and eviction looming eventually. Not enough social housing built so where do they go?

Job market bust and emigration not an option. Little chance of recovery for those currently struggling.

Civil unrest is coming and its those in a selfish privileged position pointing fingers at the most disadvantaged in society that will be outraged by consequences and demand solutions.

They are very much part of the problem and should have a good look at themselves.

Well thought out post.

bb1234567 · 10-10-2020 10:25AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Slovakia who months ago were put up as the way to crush covid in Europe are after reporting a record number of cases.

1887 from 11123 tests, safe to say with just 11k tests likely missing a hell of alot of cases.

1887 just today?

Downlinz · 10-10-2020 10:27AM

Alarming rise in number of deaths, hospital cases and those in ICU over the past week. It's very quickly starting to look like March/April again.

Blondini · 10-10-2020 10:28AM

Downlinz wrote: »

Alarming rise in number of deaths, hospital cases and those in ICU over the past week. It's very quickly starting to look like March/April again.

Outliers.

polesheep · 10-10-2020 10:28AM

Littleredcar wrote: »

How about letting someone live to 40 / 42/50

Not if it takes from my time on this earth. And anyone who says differently is lying.

polesheep · 10-10-2020 10:31AM

Polar101 wrote: »

It's just about finding a new group of people to blame. In the last two pages we've blamed elderly people who want to lock people up, lazy public servants and power-hungry nphetians. Everything is always someone else's fault.

True, but it works both ways.

polesheep · 10-10-2020 10:34AM

[QUOTE=Fiery mutant;114882667]Nobody is trying to ‘imprison you in your own home’, get a grip you bloody dope.

And the day is only starting.[/QUOTE]

And what the Hell is a curfew then? That poster wants us locked up for a number of hours per day. And keep your personal insults to yourself.

polesheep · 10-10-2020 10:35AM

pjohnson wrote: »

If true then no wonder the HSE is in such a state.

It's the HSE, she could easily have said the last six YEARS!

Happydays2020 · 10-10-2020 10:37AM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

I have four nieces and two nephews who are teachers ,They worked from March till June and did what needed doing and did it well .Not one of them would admit to working their asses off though .They worked their hours and were able to put in a wash and mind their children at the same time .

Sounds like a family business.

Widdensushi · 10-10-2020 10:37AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Slovakia who months ago were put up as the way to crush covid in Europe are after reporting a record number of cases.

1887 from 11123 tests, safe to say with just 11k tests likely missing a hell of alot of cases.

We are doing remarkably well, if we had cases here like many European countries at the moment I fear to think how people would be reacting, we have big numbers for a week ahead till the measures take affect and the numbers will start to drop sharply then again

10-10-2020 10:37AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Ah cmon let's not pretend plenty of teachers and other civil servants had it handy for a good 6 months. My own sister is admin in the hse and she will be the first to say she did **** all the last 6 months.

Really my cousin must have been doing her work for her then.

Secondary teachers have 3 months off over the summer, primary two, so hardly six months. Also if they were doing nothing why are so many saying having their kids at home doing school work is a hindrance in terms of broadband etc.

niallo27 · 10-10-2020 10:39AM

Downlinz wrote: »

Alarming rise in number of deaths, hospital cases and those in ICU over the past week. It's very quickly starting to look like March/April again.

The 7 day average of deaths in March was 69, at the moment its 3. How do you work out that's anyway similar. I'm not saying it may not rise to that level but right now we are no where near march levels.

Happydays2020 · 10-10-2020 10:40AM

Downlinz wrote: »

Alarming rise in number of deaths, hospital cases and those in ICU over the past week. It's very quickly starting to look like March/April again.

No it’s not. It could end up that way but certainly not right now.

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1314696632835899394?s=21

Necro · 10-10-2020 10:40AM

Contact tracers finally rang. Two stage process, first is a questionnaire about symptoms and possible avenues of transmission etc.

Sent me on the code to upload the random IDs from the tracker to the HSE.

Expecting a second call soon regarding who I was in contact with in the 48hrs prior to symptoms.... could have given them that list in the first call

patnor1011 · 10-10-2020 10:43AM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

You know, working from home. Zoom/teams/online classes, corrections, emailing students and parents, following up on the students not engaging with remote learning, creating lesson plans for the next day/week, grading the leaving cert just to name a few, but yeah 30mins work tops :rolleyes:

Lol I have 2 kids in 2 different schools. What you describe happened in your head only.

Looney1 · 10-10-2020 10:45AM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

No it’s not. It could end up that way but certainly not right now.

https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1314696632835899394?s=21

very simple answer to this. testing is much more thorough now. 200 cases in march is probably the equivalent of 1500 now

patnor1011 · 10-10-2020 10:47AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Slovakia who months ago were put up as the way to crush covid in Europe are after reporting a record number of cases.

1887 from 11123 tests, safe to say with just 11k tests likely missing a hell of alot of cases.

They also gave free masks to citizens, their officials or politicians did not engage in golf dinners in fact you could rarely see them without a mask.
They just started doing more tests hence more cases. And people are surprised. :rolleyes:

normanoffside · 10-10-2020 10:49AM

I see the World Health organisation are now strongly advising against lockdowns as they are having much graver impacts on health around the world.

Interesting to hear Nabarro agree with Gupta

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1314573157827858434

Jackman25 · 10-10-2020 10:52AM

normanoffside wrote: »

I see the World Health organisation are now strongly advising against lockdowns as they are having much graver impacts on health around the world.

Interesting to hear Nabarro agree with Gupta

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1314573157827858434

Boggles incoming to call him a spoofer and a loon.

UrbanFret · 10-10-2020 10:54AM

Can anyone tell me if heath workers who had it back in march/April are still been tested regularly, still testing positive and been counted in the numbers. I'm told they are.

Happydays2020 · 10-10-2020 10:54AM

Looney1 wrote: »

very simple answer to this. testing is much more thorough now. 200 cases in march is probably the equivalent of 1500 now

Exactly which means that the comparison on daily case numbers is at best inappropriate and at worst misleading.

The comparison on the other metrics is appropriate and as you can see it is approx 20% of ICU and Hospitalisations and 4% of deaths.

niallo27 · 10-10-2020 10:56AM

normanoffside wrote: »

I see the World Health organisation are now strongly advising against lockdowns as they are having much graver impacts on health around the world.

Interesting to hear Nabarro agree with Gupta

https://twitter.com/spectator/status/1314573157827858434

Won't suit Tony's agenda for a total lockdown.

s1ippy · 10-10-2020 11:01AM

niallo27 wrote: »

What exactly did they work their arses off on. I love teachers, I couldn't do that job for no money...

Well you've clearly established that, with this appalling syntax.

Boggles · 10-10-2020 11:01AM

Jackman25 wrote: »

Boggles incoming to call him a spoofer and a loon.

Did he recommend culling the vulnurable?

I stopped listening to the WHO a long long time ago, the vast majority of countries in the world have followed suit.

The new head of the World Health Organization has named Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe a goodwill ambassador for the agency, a move that has startled and dismayed public health experts.

The WHO director-general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, announced the controversial appointment on Wednesday in a speech at a global conference on noncommunicable diseases in Montevideo, Uruguay

There is a guy with his finger clearly on the pulse of the world.

eagle eye · 10-10-2020 11:04AM

normanoffside wrote:

I see the World Health organisation are now strongly advising against lockdowns as they are having much graver impacts on health around the world.
Interesting to hear Nabarro agree with Gupta

Can you please tell me exactly what you heard there?
Just so you know he never advised against lockdowns. He advised against lockdowns as the primary action.
We haven't been in lockdown for ages.
We need a lockdown to flatten the curve, reorganise and give our frontline workers a break, all things he said were good reasons for a lockdown.

niallo27 · 10-10-2020 11:05AM

Boggles wrote: »

Did he recommend culling the vulnurable?

I stopped listening to the WHO a long long time ago, the vast majority of countries in the world have followed suit.

There is a guy with his finger clearly on the pulse of the world.

You do know the Irish government is following the WHO guidelines all through this pandemic.

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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