Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

eagle eye · 08-10-2020 09:55PM

mioniqa wrote:

The problem is not the schools. In august quite a number of younger people went abroad on holidays and no doubt the virus was imported into the country and itâ€™s been circulating and growing since then.

Definitive statement there.
Now you are so certain I'm sure you can answer some questions for me.
If a child attending school comes home and is coughing and has symptoms and is obviously kept at home and gets tested, is that assigned as a school case or a home case?
If a child is in a pod where there is a case and gets sent home and his/her parents get him tested and he's positive does that go down as a school case?

Can you tell me why cases in schools were higher every week from the end of August to the end of September?
I don't have any October figures for schools, do you?

odyssey06 · 08-10-2020 09:55PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Really?
https://www.rte.ie/news/

Main page
Rte.ie

Sports
Covid news
Late late show lineup
More Irish and covid news

I guess they didnt get the memo.

08-10-2020 09:58PM

Why are so many people so worried about how our reporting compares to other countries and what other countries think about what we are doing. It’s a national obsession trying to second guess what the reaction elsewhere is to what we do. Live and die by our own actions, maybe we could actually make decisions as a country then rather than putting everything through the prism of others reactions

Julian does it well · 08-10-2020 10:00PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

1/10.

I wouldn't even give them 1 out of 10. Its farcical. Independent medical experts who one day recommend Level5 and then 4 days later they say stay at level 3 while from the other side of the mouth say the situation has deteriorated. Numpties. Follow the science my ass.

FintanMcluskey · 08-10-2020 10:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are so many people so worried about how our reporting compares to other countries and what other countries think about what we are doing. It’s a national obsession trying to second guess what the reaction elsewhere is to what we do. Live and die by our own actions, maybe we could actually make decisions as a country then rather than putting everything through the prism of others reactions

To quote Leo many months ago, never has so much been asked of so many.

Many now realise Ireland is under one of the most restrictive roadmaps in Europe, and are asking questions.

Goldengirl · 08-10-2020 10:06PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I hope these from ACE helps in regard to Cork

Thanks that is good
Were these areas posted tonight , sorry missed them .
Still can't make out where UCC is , is it South West or South Central ?
Thinking South West because of Glasheen Road , but not sure .
And then Mardyke is South Central , so confused .

landofthetree · 08-10-2020 10:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why are so many people so worried about how our reporting compares to other countries and what other countries think about what we are doing. It’s a national obsession trying to second guess what the reaction elsewhere is to what we do. Live and die by our own actions, maybe we could actually make decisions as a country then rather than putting everything through the prism of others reactions

People are interested in what works and what doesn't in other countries.

niallo27 · 08-10-2020 10:11PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

That link you sent, press the home link on top of the page.

Spanish Eyes · 08-10-2020 10:13PM

This is terrible.

But many are not affected at all. Those who do can suffer can suffer a lot though.

I know.

eagle eye · 08-10-2020 10:13PM

FintanMcluskey wrote:

Many now realise Ireland is under one of the most restrictive roadmaps in Europe, and are asking questions.

There's many unbelievably impatient, grandiose imbeciles in this country nowadays.
I've lived through tough financial times as a child and as an adult where you had very little money. As an adult there was no pub because we couldn't afford to waste money, no sweets as a child during those times because my parents couldn't afford it.
Thing is that whatever little you did get those times was remembered and much enjoyed.
Nowadays if you say no to some of these brats they look at you like you cannot use that word.
It's time they all learned to toughen up, keep the head down and do what they are told. Get through this thing and then enjoy life again.
It's not like they've had miserable lives, they have had first world problems only. This is a first world problem too, if everybody works together and does the right thing until a vaccine arrives then it's over.

Goldengirl · 08-10-2020 10:13PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

He also admitted he lost it.

Now what is a valid point is thats its been relentless in Ireland, there has been no break even when it wasnt necessary for NPHET to give public bulletins last Summer when cases were so low

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1153499/

Thats a headline on a day when 14 cases were reported last July.

Talking about an RO number when cases numbers were so low, and the language used was completely unacceptable.

That was the Summer , we are talking about now .

FintanMcluskey · 08-10-2020 10:14PM

niallo27 wrote: »

That link you sent, press the home link on top of the page.

Hes up off the canvas, leading with the left

caveat emptor · 08-10-2020 10:15PM

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

This.
Towards the end of August there seemed to be a sudden surge of people going to Greek islands, Portugal... anywhere that the green list allowed that particular Week.
On one hand we were asked to holiday at home, but at the same time there was push to get back to normal as quickly as possible, along with a narrative that Covid was pretty much gone.

Seems plausible. Week 31 ended on 2nd of august below. Seemed to be the start of this wave.

Roger_007 · 08-10-2020 10:15PM

I’m just watching Prime Time and listening to the views of various ‘experts’ on how the virus is spread.
The only conclusion I can come to is that none of these alleged experts have the foggiest idea how it is spread.
I hope these people are not getting paid just to expose their complete ignorance about this virus.

FintanMcluskey · 08-10-2020 10:16PM

eagle eye wrote: »

There's many unbelievably impatient, grandiose imbeciles in this country nowadays.
I've lived through tough financial times as a child and as an adult where you had very little money. As an adult there was no pub because we couldn't afford to waste money, no sweets as a child during those times because my parents couldn't afford it.
Thing is that whatever little you did get those times was remembered and much enjoyed.
Nowadays if you say no to some of these brats they look at you like you cannot use that word.
It's time they all learned to toughen up, keep the head down and do what they are told. Get through this thing and then enjoy life again.
It's not like they've had miserable lives, they have had first world problems only. This is a first world problem too, if everybody works together and does the right thing until a vaccine arrives then it's over.

Ive spoken to people of that generation in Ireland.

Not one of them remember this reaction to TB, or certainly the abstained socialising, the dance halls stayed open and the young danced in them.

Cant figure it out tbh

Goldengirl · 08-10-2020 10:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why are so many people so worried about how our reporting compares to other countries and what other countries think about what we are doing. It’s a national obsession trying to second guess what the reaction elsewhere is to what we do. Live and die by our own actions, maybe we could actually make decisions as a country then rather than putting everything through the prism of others reactions

Exactly .
Best point in this !

eagle eye · 08-10-2020 10:19PM

FintanMcluskey wrote:

Ive spoken to people of that generation in Ireland.

Not one of them remember this reaction to TB, or certainly the abstained socialising, the dance halls stayed open and the young danced in them.
Cant figure it out tbh

We are much smarter today in statistics, medicine and the sciences. We have social media everywhere so people know the risks and the word gets around.
Back then they didn't know these things.

odyssey06 · 08-10-2020 10:19PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Ive spoken to people of that generation in Ireland.
Not one of them remember this reaction to TB, or certainly the abstained socialising, the dance halls stayed open and the young danced in them.
Cant figure it out tbh

Ask the dead.

ie those that didnt survive cos people were getting on with life

Or those forcibly confined to sanitoriums.

iguana · 08-10-2020 10:19PM

RTE have the Homeschool Hub teachers back from Monday, this time doing "Afterschool Hub" which is meant to be an alternative to kids' normal after school activities. I wonder if there isn't at least a degree of thinking here that schools may not last as they are through the winter.

Thomas.. · 08-10-2020 10:20PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Ive spoken to people of that generation in Ireland.

Not one of them remember this reaction to TB, or certainly the abstained socialising, the dance halls stayed open and the young danced in them.

Cant figure it out tbh

What do you think politicians would rather do?

They'd rather let it spread if the public could handle it

FintanMcluskey · 08-10-2020 10:23PM

eagle eye wrote: »

We are much smarter today in statistics, medicine and the sciences. We have social media everywhere so people know the risks and the word gets around.
Back then they didn't know these things.

No they didn't.

But my point was the young will always behave like the carefree young.

Wheather you refer to them as impatient, grandiose imbeciles or not.

If people want buy in, Id advise anyone with a similar attitude to ammend it, because young people have always behaved this way. Young

odyssey06 · 08-10-2020 10:23PM

Thomas.. wrote: »

What do you think politicians would rather do?
They'd rather let it spread if the public could handle it

They have a responsibility now with a massive public health system that people expect to be there which wasnt there during TB or Spanish Flu.

GazzaL · 08-10-2020 10:24PM

iguana wrote: »

RTE have the Homeschool Hub teachers back from Monday, this time doing "Afterschool Hub" which is meant to be an alternative to kids' normal after school activities. I wonder if there isn't at least a degree of thinking here that schools may not last as they are through the winter.

People might have to send their children abroad to be educated if the State resorts to mobile apps, tv and Dustin the Turkey to educate them.

iguana · 08-10-2020 10:24PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Not one of them remember this reaction to TB, or certainly the abstained socialising, the dance halls stayed open and the young danced in them.

At no point in anyone's living memory did TB arrive all at once when no-one had immunity and every single person was potentially vulnerable to it. That makes this very different.

caveat emptor · 08-10-2020 10:24PM

iguana wrote: »

RTE have the Homeschool Hub teachers back from Monday, this time doing "Afterschool Hub" which is meant to be an alternative to kids' normal after school activities. I wonder if there isn't at least a degree of thinking here that schools may not last as they are through the winter.

Looks like it.

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1314263251266527233?s=20

titan18 · 08-10-2020 10:24PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Thanks . Were these areas posted tonight , sorry missed them .
Still can't make out where UCC is , is it South West or South Central ?
Thinking South West because of Glasheen Road , but not sure .
And then Mardyke is South Central , so confused .

Its South Central. South Central goes up to Sundays well before going north west.

Closer to UCC and marydke, dividing line to South West is by Victorias Cross. When you go back towards the Lough, it cuts in magazine road. Can think of Centra on denroches cross as the dividing line on Bandon road/magazine road. At the Lough, Lough is South Central. Hawthorn bar and hartlands avenue is South West.

Jim_Hodge · 08-10-2020 10:25PM

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

You're proving the point. It's not on the home page nor the UK page but a further drilldown.

Goldengirl · 08-10-2020 10:29PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Seems plausible. Week 31 ended on 2nd of august below. Seemed to be the start of this wave.

Sorry Caveat . I have to disagree here with you .
That slight warming of the map was a few weeks after hotels and restaurants opened up and then food pubs .
A lot of reported partying in July and people getting together and general mixing going on .
That is just what happens and then yes, some people going away on holidays and schools opening .
Sure it is all happy days for this virus .

FintanMcluskey · 08-10-2020 10:30PM

iguana wrote: »

At no point in anyone's living memory did TB arrive all at once when no-one had immunity and every single person was potentially vulnerable to it. That makes this very different.

odyssey06 wrote: »

Ask the dead.

ie those that didnt survive cos people were getting on with life

Or those forcibly confined to sanitoriums.

Your missing the point, while trying to make it with emotional posting.

The young back then didnt care, and they probably dont now.

Im sure there is some survival instinct that means you aren't afraid of something that's relatively harmless to you.

If not I imagine humans would be long extinct

plodder · 08-10-2020 10:30PM

Have to say these two charts indicate to me that the current measures appear to be working in Dublin so the same measures should work in the rest of the country. And the suggestion for level 5 was completely misguided. Shows daily cases by date.

Source is wikipedia (as the government statistics sites are completely useless)

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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