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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #3992
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    Im a bit uneasy that anyone now thinks locking down for any period is a good idea, their simply is no evidence that it works, take a look at the uk's current local lockdowns their not working cases are still rising why?

    I'm not convinced myself either especially when you follow it with a window of normality. What I'm hearing is some stiff medicine now and then it's party time for all.


  • #3993
    completedit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Hahahah, another in the long list of cringe inducing covid terms


  • #3994
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    Looney1 wrote: »
    I'm hearing that schools may be given an extra week off for midterm and a circuit breaker 3 week lockdown around then.

    Hearing from where exactly?


  • #3995
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    petes wrote: »
    Hearing from where exactly?

    WhatsApp would be my guess.


  • #3996
    Hulk Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,019 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-short-term-lockdowns-could-result-in-more-covid-19-deaths-study-claims-12098766

    "A new report also suggests that short-term lockdowns could result in more people dying with coronavirus."

    I suppose this study from a top epidemiologist will be classed as dangerous and misleading. Then tonight we'll go back to being ridiculed for ignoring the advice of experts such as McConkey and the O'Tuathail GP


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  • #3997
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,505 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    polesheep wrote: »
    Nope, it doesn't. Let's break down your quote.
    20% of US covid deaths were under 65s. Means 20 out of 100 were under 65.
    Of those 17% had no comorbidity. Means 17% of the 20 had no co-morbidity.

    You have said I am wrong while re-stating what I wrote.:confused::confused::confused:

    17 out of every 100 people, aged under 65, who died from Covid had no co-morbidities.
    4 out of every 1000 people who died from Covid, were under 65 and had no comorbidity.

    When we include the similar figures for 65-74.
    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6928e1.htm

    So we're looking at 8% of covid deaths being under 75s who had no underlying conditions.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3998
    Looney1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭Looney1


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    WhatsApp would be my guess.

    Teachers


  • #3999
    dmakc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭dmakc


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Teachers

    Teachers have no insight to a circuit breaker lockdown


  • #4000
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    WhatsApp would be my guess.

    His mate in the army got a text this morning to say be ready to escort kids home in 2 weeks and guard the schools after...


  • #4001
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    I think for everyone sake a proper lockdown should be applied now,
    We need the country to be back open for Christmas not because of Santa or baby Jesus or any of that nonsense but for the money that will be spent and the economy ,

    Look we all see a lockdown coming so we may as well get it out of the way now and let everyone back out and about to spend at Christmas time ,

    Do you honestly believe NPHET will allow us out for Christmas?


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  • #4002
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-short-term-lockdowns-could-result-in-more-covid-19-deaths-study-claims-12098766

    "A new report also suggests that short-term lockdowns could result in more people dying with coronavirus."

    I suppose this study from a top epidemiologist will be classed as dangerous and misleading. Then tonight we'll go back to being ridiculed for ignoring the advice of experts such as McConkey and the O'Tuathail GP

    Always gotta laugh when they roll out O'Tuathail on TV as some expert... He is a ****ing GP.


  • #4003
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Do you honestly believe NPHET will allow us out for Christmas?

    Let us out!!! dear god what is wrong with people, NPHET are not the law.

    Madrid just won a case against locking down, Court said it went against people rights to freedom of movement in their own country


  • #4004
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Why do people keep saying this ? Its clearly not true

    There wont be a "widely available" vaccine until next summer


  • #4005
    statto25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,989 ✭✭✭statto25


    You can add "Circuit Breaker Lockdown" to the list of sh1te Covid 19 phrases


  • #4006
    Thomas..
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Curfew and fines then jail.

    Once people see a few getting done they will stop.

    It's the only thing that will work now

    No it isn't
    fines and jail are unenforceable


  • #4007
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,229 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Deleted User wrote: »
    There wont be a "widely available" vaccine until next summer


    If widely available you mean the whole population then no. If you mean available enough to regain normality then yes.


  • #4008
    Thomas..
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 141 ✭✭Thomas..


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    If widely available you mean the whole population then no. If you mean available enough to regain normality then yes.

    Will it work though with a limited uptake

    I've seen figures for uncooperatives as high as 38%


  • #4009
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    mloc123 wrote: »
    His mate in the army got a text this morning to say be ready to escort kids home in 2 weeks and guard the schools after...

    Stopit. That's Paddygreen's gig.


  • #4010
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I think people need to accept that this is not going to be over by Christmas. And it's going to be different this year.

    Yeah it's unfortunate but we aren't kids. It will be fine.


  • #4011
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,336 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Lord Spence wrote: »
    Madrid just won a case against locking down, Court said it went against people rights to freedom of movement in their own country

    Good for them.
    Madrid area has Europe's highest coronavirus rate with 850 coronavirus infections per 100,000 people

    If medical workers walk off the job in Madrid they can cite that ruling I guess.


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  • #4012
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    statto25 wrote: »
    You can add "Circuit Breaker Lockdown" to the list of sh1te Covid 19 phrases

    It's Varadkar's level 5 spin language


  • #4013
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Do you honestly believe NPHET will allow us out for Christmas?

    They're not going tonout us under house arrest but bottom line is it's down to everyone's actions over next few months


  • #4014
    Lord Spence
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Lord Spence


    Boggles wrote: »
    Good for them.



    If medical workers walk off the job in Madrid they can cite that ruling I guess.

    That makes no sense


  • #4015
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭prunudo


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    I think people need to accept that this is not going to be over by Christmas. And it's going to be different this year.

    Yeah it's unfortunate but we aren't kids. It will be fine.

    I don't think it will be 'over' for a lot longer than that. Its going to be a tough few months until the weather starts improving again in the spring.


  • #4016
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    If widely available you mean the whole population then no. If you mean available enough to regain normality then yes.

    I'd say more like level 2 or level 1 for a few months till its available to all.

    I think once a vaccine arrives and the public are given an end date to it all then people will be a lot more relaxed and can plan ahead.


  • #4017
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Looney1 wrote: »
    Teachers

    Who have absolutely no idea whats going on at all.


  • #4018
    Kilboor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭Kilboor


    So are we going to let all the private nursing home owners (partially tax payer funded) get away scot free when the majority of deaths lie with them?

    Classic Ireland.


  • #4019
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Kilboor wrote: »
    So are we going to let all the private nursing home owners (partially tax payer funded) get away scot free when the majority of deaths lie with them?

    Classic Ireland.

    As Stephen Donnelly would say "the virus is to blame"


  • #4020
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Eod100 wrote: »
    They're not going tonout us under house arrest but bottom line is it's down to everyone's actions over next few months

    Nah just back to not being able to travel 5 kms from our own houses for at least a month

    It was longer earlier on in the year

    No big deal to them

    I do agree with your last point

    I'll do all in my power

    However that prob won't be good enough

    It's at least 4 weeks level 5

    If all goes well then 4 weeks level 4 even before we get back to level three

    We were amongst the slowest if not the slowest in Europe to open up in phase one

    Tony and NPHET will be even more cautious this time I fear

    That's pretty much up to Christmas in the best scenario


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  • #4021
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,556 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Thomas.. wrote: »
    No it isn't
    fines and jail are unenforceable

    Make it forceable so.

    We have lost a large amount of people at this stage.

    Only thing that will change their mind is fines and jail.


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