Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Would you prefer 3 weeks of level 5 and then level 2 for 12 weeks or 3 weeks of level 3 followed by 6 weeks of level 5 followed by 3 weeks of level 3 and 3 weeks of level 2.

I saw one of the scientific types suggest that was the choice government made.

I've no idea how accurate it is but if level 3 doesn't work it could be the case.

I can imagine which one would have more of an effect on people's financial difficulty.

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

This evenings developments might explain why the NPHET letter was leaked on Sunday night........

niallo27 wrote: »

I would be totally for your 2nd option, I think a lof of people would.

manniot2 wrote: »

'the numbers are this high'. what is a high number in this context? if we had the same testing capacity back in march that we have now, wed have had 10 times the daily numbers back then. would make todays numbers seem tiny.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I haven't really any view on schools myself, but there seems to be varying degrees of concern about it.

For what it's worth, here's what the CDC say about schools and covid risks, which one is closest to Irish schools?:

Continuum of risk

By model of learning and implementation of proven mitigation strategies

In general, the risk of COVID-19 spread in schools increases across the continuum of virtual, hybrid, to in-person learning with the risk moderated for hybrid and in-person learning based upon the range of mitigation strategies put in place and the extent they are conscientiously followed.

While not exhaustive, this stratification attempts to characterize the risks of spread among students, teachers, and staff across this continuum:

Lowest risk:

Students and teachers engage in virtual-only classes, activities, and events


Some risk:

Hybrid Learning Model: Some students participate in virtual learning and other students participate in in-person learning
Small, in-person classes, activities, and events
Cohorting, alternating schedules, and staggered schedules are applied rigorously
No mixing of groups of students and teachers throughout/across school days
Students and teachers do not share objects
Students, teachers, and staff follow all steps to protect themselves and others at all times including proper use of face masks, social distancing, hand hygiene
Regularly scheduled (i.e., at least daily or between uses) cleaning and disinfection of frequently touched areas implemented with fidelity


Medium risk:

Hybrid Learning Model: Most students participate in in-person learning, some students participate in virtual learning
Larger in-person classes, activities, and events
Cohorting, alternating schedules, and staggered schedules are applied with some exceptions
Some mixing of groups of students and teachers throughout/across school days
Students and teachers minimally share objects
Students, teachers, and staff follow all steps to protect themselves and others such as proper use of face masks, social distancing, hand hygiene
Regularly scheduled cleaning and disinfection of frequently touched areas largely implemented with fidelity


Higher risk:

Students and teachers engage in in-person only learning, activities, and events
Students minimally mix between classes and activities
Students and teachers share some objects
Students, teachers, and staff follow some steps to protect themselves and others at all times such as proper use of face masks, social distancing, hand hygiene
Irregular cleaning and disinfection of frequently touched areas


Highest risk:

Students and teachers engage in in-person only learning, activities, and events
Students mix freely between classes and activities
Students and teachers freely share objects
Students, teachers, and staff do not/are not required to follow steps to protect themselves and others such as proper use of face masks, social distancing, hand hygiene
Irregular cleaning and disinfection of frequently touched areas

tom1ie wrote: »

Tbh I would be an option 2 person also. However I wouldn’t have a huge deal of trust in my fellow citizen not to act the gob****e unfortunately.

We need government to come out and give us a clear idea of option 1 or 2 and put a plan in place, but to be honest they won’t do that and I can see it will put vulnerable people in a certain amount of danger also.

TexasTornado wrote: »

"Trying to justify their level 5 hysteria"

That's what you said after the numbers where released today

Trumper

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

I never do :rolleyes: 4-24 are higher than ever, numbers have increase across the board since reopening, and the reason thats important is that schools cannot be taken in isolation from community, every student has a family of close contacts at home, did covid originate in schools in a particular case? Does it matter? They take a case into schools and spread to every other demographic (students/adults/oaps) , hence the increase accross all demographics.it isn't ****ing rocket science and im not getting into the details again and again.

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Im sure kids (25-30 people) where in cramped poorly ventilated rooms over summer, and every hour mixed with 100s of other kids doing the same. But im sure ye are right, covid cannot infect or spread between children aged 4-19