Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

07-10-2020 04:55PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Exactly, nothing about schools getting reported

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_report_20201005_Website.pdf

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19outbreaksclustersinireland/COVID-19%20Weekly%20Outbreak%20Highlights_Week402020_web%20version_v1.0_07102020.pdf

https://www.thejournal.ie/schools-testing-covid-5217543-Sep2020/

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1002/1168953-testing-in-schools/

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-forty-three-new-cases-in-schools-after-mass-testing-1.4359860

MerlinSouthDub · 07-10-2020 04:56PM

Blondini wrote: »

There is an even stronger agenda out there NOT to blame schools for any of this. It is most definitely not representing the data correctly.

? The infection rate in children is lower than any other age. The theory that schools have caused the increase is a theory without any supporting data. It's not an agenda, it's a fact.

eagle eye · 07-10-2020 04:57PM

JDD wrote:

My view is that opening schools is not the superspreader event people thought it might be, because I believe that asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic children do not spread the virus efficiently.

Where's your proof for this claim m you make.
Asymptomatic people spread the virus, that's a fact.

wadacrack · 07-10-2020 04:58PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1313871097016848385

khalessi · 07-10-2020 04:59PM

martingriff wrote: »

ya so much worse then doctor and nurses. A shop worker alsi be working that long in an enclosed area

No not worse than a doctor or nurse in dealing with covid but worse in other ways. As a nurse I always knew hospitals had my back when it came to safety. I was provided with ppe as necessary and given guidance in how to deal with cross infection. In March nurses needed improved ppe and the first batches were flown into the country in April. We have transparency with hospitals reporting numbers in hopsital with Covid19.

Let us compare that with education.

As a teacher I dont feel the Department has my safety or that of my colleagues in mind at all. In schools, teachers are dealing with crowded classrooms with insufficient ventilation. Some staff such as SNAs are still struggling to have PPE supplied to them, many have had to buy their own. In school, I am washing tables and chairs between students every 25 minutes or so as they cannot do it themselves.

A close contact is someone within 2 metres for longer than 15 minutes mask or no mask. In teaching a teacher is not considered a close contact. I was isolated following a case and not considered a close contact despite having the student for an hour and we were sitting either side of a desk.

In a hospital setting, my sister came in contact with a covid positive Doctor last week as part of her work, she has been tested 3 times in last 6 days, all negative tg. In school, I have a teacher friend who discovered by accident there were 2 children who were covid positive in her class and she was not considered a close contact despite spending 5 1/2 hours in the same room as them and within 2 metres.

The numbers in schools are not being recorded publically due to GDPR, strange GDPR does not apply to hospitals. There should not be a problem with knowing the numbers, it should not be left to an FB site. Obviously with nearly 80,000 members parents are interested.

Children are being ignored as spreaders, the 15-24 year group has increased since September and this is being pinned on everything except schools.

Teachers are now considered frontline workers like nurses and doctors but without the safety measurements, the testing and tracking. When 30 teachers were found to be close contacts by the tracker app, HSE intervened to say it was a glitch, yet there is no problem checking multiple medical staff who came in contact with the covid +ve doctor. Why?

IN hospitals, staff are being offered the flu vaccine, teachers are not.

Regarding shop workers, numbers allowed in stores limited, shoppers wear masks, sanitiser and sd. In schools overcrowded, no masks in primary and sd impossible

Blondini · 07-10-2020 04:59PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

? The infection rate in children is lower than any other age. The theory that schools have caused the increase is a theory without any supporting data. It's not an agenda, it's a fact.

I'll give you a clue. Most children are asymptomatic and probably not tested, but can still spread it in the family home to people who are symtomatic and tested.

Crazy, right?

is_that_so · 07-10-2020 05:00PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More info, I posted last week. More prevalent in India by the looks of things.
https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1311287097806872577?s=20

Yeah I linked to that story a few pages back.

podgeandrodge · 07-10-2020 05:01PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Are most hotels not closed?

I was told one hotel I tried to book tonight was closed as county travel is prohibited

mr zulu wrote: »

Yes, the hotel where I work was booked out this month, all cancelled now, hotel now shut down.

weldoninhio wrote: »

Hotels are for essential workers only now afaik.

Why these texts "confirming" that hotels are closed. Some may have voluntarily but level 3 allows for hotels to remain open with services for guests only.

eagle eye · 07-10-2020 05:02PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote:

? The infection rate in children is lower than any other age. The theory that schools have caused the increase is a theory without any supporting data. It's not an agenda, it's a fact.

It's not a fact.
We don't know how many children have/had the virus.
We do know that between the end of August and 27th September that over 1200 school going kids tested positive and that case numbers rose every week.
We know that most kids are asymptomatic so how many of them would be tested? Are you going to test kids showing no symptoms?

caveat emptor · 07-10-2020 05:02PM

I don't think public health England have an agenda other than the public health of England.

mr zulu · 07-10-2020 05:05PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Why these texts "confirming" that hotels are closed. Some may have voluntarily but level 3 allows for hotels to remain open with services for guests only.

Where are these guests going to come from?

07-10-2020 05:08PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I don't think public health England have an agenda other than the public health of England.

Why do we believe its being hidden?

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-19outbreaksclustersinireland/COVID-19%20Weekly%20Outbreak%20Highlights_Week402020_web%20version_v1.0_07102020.pdf

titan18 · 07-10-2020 05:09PM

Any swab numbers today? Haven't seen them posted, although might have missed them, and seems fair late

igCorcaigh · 07-10-2020 05:09PM

60k long covid patients in England alone??
I thought long covid was rare...

https://news.trust.org/item/20201007143429-2a0on

"NHS England said that some estimates indicated 10% of COVID patients may still be experiencing symptoms more than three weeks after infection, with around 60,000 suffering from Long COVID symptoms after more than three months."

MarkY91 · 07-10-2020 05:11PM

mr zulu wrote: »

Where are these guests going to come from?

The same county as the hotel? Staycation?

Boggles · 07-10-2020 05:11PM

seamus wrote: »

Yes. My thoughts are that you selectively excluded data that didn't suit your agenda.

How about you post the full timeline from when the increases started?

I don't have an agenda.

But that clearly shows a stabilization and then a decrease before the end of August and then a 45 degree slope after.

But you are right that graph illustrates the data more.

Good man Seamus.

Benimar · 07-10-2020 05:11PM

titan18 wrote: »

Any swab numbers today? Haven't seen them posted, although might have missed them, and seems fair late

624 positive swabs

Boggles · 07-10-2020 05:14PM

Leo rang Tony last night.

Explained he was just "so angry Sunday night" that's why he fúcked the whole of NPHET under the bus and questions their ability and professionalism.

Interview was Monday night.

Good old Leo.

Oranage2 · 07-10-2020 05:16PM

A fact that a quarter of our population move all around the place and then are stuck in small spaces with 30 others for hours a day. If anyone thinks this has little impact on covid and that it's the odd house party driving up the numbers then I'm afraid that you're quite naive

stephenjmcd · 07-10-2020 05:16PM

No LOI teams impacted then 2 this week.
https://twitter.com/stpatsfc/status/1313872432881643520?s=19

What Username Guidelines · 07-10-2020 05:19PM

Italy have made masks mandatory in public when with anyone not in your household, whether indoors or outdoors.

They also took another jump today with +3,678 cases

TexasTornado · 07-10-2020 05:20PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1313871097016848385

But but but deaths are the only important metric of this virus according to Boards.ie fly by night doctors.

Funsterdelux · 07-10-2020 05:21PM

Boggles wrote: »

I don't have an agenda.

But that clearly shows a stabilization and then a decrease before the end of August and then a 45 degree slope after.

But you are right that graph illustrates the data more.

Good man Seamus.

hangover_3_you_just_got_schooled_son_journal.jpg?height=460&width=460&qv=90

Boggles · 07-10-2020 05:22PM

Blondini wrote: »

I'll give you a clue. Most children are asymptomatic and probably not tested, but can still spread it in the family home to people who are symtomatic and tested.

Crazy, right?

Another crazy stat.

100% of 0-14 year olds live with someone else

:eek:

manofwisdom · 07-10-2020 05:23PM

Boggles wrote: »

Growth of Positive Rate.

Something significant must have happened at the end of August / Start of September.

Any thoughts?

Troublesome indoor clusters triggered increase and more testing.

JP Liz V1 · 07-10-2020 05:24PM

Benimar wrote: »

624 positive swabs

Over 500 cases today so?

is_that_so · 07-10-2020 05:25PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Over 500 cases today so?

You can tune in soon-ish - Tony is back in the big seat.

CruelSummer · 07-10-2020 05:25PM

MarkY91 wrote: »

The same county as the hotel? Staycation?

With no restaurants and other amenities curtailed or closed? How do people think these business can pay staff, bills and overheads?

manofwisdom · 07-10-2020 05:26PM

Ce he sin wrote: »

Depends on how much testing they're doing, and who they're testing.

Poland seems to be doing better on that metric, but cases and deaths are rising rapidly there. All is not as it seems from that list.

Plus Sweden cases are rising again so worth seeing where they are on the list in the next 2 weeks.

CruelSummer · 07-10-2020 05:28PM

Brianmwalker wrote: »

And people still think we have draconian rules here lol

These rules are less draconian than ours lol?

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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