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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #2792
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,336 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    What is your theory for the fact that young adults have had the highest increase in infection rates? This group are unlikely to have kids in school. Interested in your thoughts.

    Would "young adults" not have younger siblings?

    Would they not work in schools or child care?


  • #2793
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    What is your theory for the fact that young adults have had the highest increase in infection rates? This group are unlikely to have kids in school. Interested in your thoughts.

    Indifference to the disease, lack of common sense, perceived invincibility and boozing


  • #2794
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    What is your theory for the fact that young adults have had the highest increase in infection rates? This group are unlikely to have kids in school. Interested in your thoughts.

    And case rates in the 5-14 year old age bracket are falling as a proportion of all cases...and the positive rates in testing associated with schools is lower than the overall...


  • #2795
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Boggles wrote: »
    Would "young adults" not have younger siblings?

    Would they not work in schools or child care?

    I would have gotten away without it if it wasn't for those pesky kids.


  • #2796
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Boggles wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=528548&d=1602081216

    Growth of Positive Rate.

    Something significant must have happened at the end of August / Start of September.

    Any thoughts?
    Yes. My thoughts are that you selectively excluded data that didn't suit your agenda.

    How about you post the full timeline from when the increases started?

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  • #2797
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,196 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Idiotic protesters should be told protest away, but you can only use the Phoenix Park or somewhere else designated outside of the City Centre. Sick of those moronic rent a crowd mobsters.


  • #2798
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Different proposed model of how COVID emerged, not the current spillover, where it spread from bats to animals like pangolin but due to human interaction with a whole range of wildlife. Article suggests that SARS-COV-2 has been in bats for decades.

    General article here
    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20201004/More-evidence-Pangolin-not-intermediary-in-transmission-of-SARS-CoV-2-to-humans.aspx

    This is the technical paper.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567134820303245


  • #2799
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    People are quick to blame it on the schools as it wpuld mean that it wasnt down to society getting lax and people not taking proper precaution


  • #2800
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    Boggles wrote: »
    Yeah, they are the least likely to be tested.

    Also the vast majority of the population are not 0-14.

    Are they not? A friend brought their son for a test in the second week after the schools went back (he had a cough, was negative thankfully) and she said every last person in the walk in facility in croke park had a kid with them.

    20% of our population are under 12.

    And yet only 10% of positive tests in the last week were in the 0-14 age group.

    And while I don't think the HSE breakdown the age profile of who is being tested, I think far more children then usual are being tested because of all the back-to-school colds and coughs.


  • #2801
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 939 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seamus wrote: »
    Yes. My thoughts are that you selectively excluded data that didn't suit your agenda.

    How about you post the full timeline from when the increases started?

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    In fairness that shows increases at two key points, a few weeks after most restrictions were lifted (end of June) which flatlined for a period until schools reopened and has increased steadily since then.


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  • #2802
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    martingriff wrote: »
    No they know as practically everyone else does that a Level 5 is coming and are hoping they can get off also even though they are essential and the kids are staying

    Such a disrespectful comment for those educating the children of this nation, particularly as they are at such risk at the moment, should be ashamed of yourself :mad:


  • #2803
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,969 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    seamus wrote: »
    Yes. My thoughts are that you selectively excluded data that didn't suit your agenda.

    How about you post the full timeline from when the increases started?

    528562.png

    But the schools seamus, the schools!!!


  • #2804
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    The reason cases have risen since August is simple... people got tired of it all, the novelty of March had worn off... they wanted to have communion parties, they wanted to celebrate winning football matches, they wanted to make up for that missed birthday party in March, April, May etc... They wanted to live life as normal again and did.


  • #2805
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Boggles wrote: »
    Would "young adults" not have younger siblings?

    Would they not work in schools or child care?

    But they have increased at a faster rate than younger age groups. If your theory was correct the opposite would happen. School going age children would have the highest increase. But, stick with your preconcieved ideas and ignore the data if you so wish.


  • #2806
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Severe COVID cases may be linked to Neanderthal genes.



    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20200930/Genetic-heritage-from-Neanderthals-linked-to-severe-COVID-19.aspx

    Cocoon Neanderthals!


  • #2807
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In fairness that shows increases at two key points, a few weeks after most restrictions were lifted (end of June) which flatlined for a period until schools reopened and has increased steadily since then.

    The large outbreaks in early august and increased domestic and international travel in August seeded new outbreaks


  • #2808
    Feria40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Essential stays, I believe. So if, for example, rain is pouring through the your roof, then you can go stay in a hotel in your county while it’s fixed. My understanding is that it is up to the customer to attest as the essential nature of their stay

    I presume you are taking the Micky :D

    To be clear if you live in Castlebar, you are free to book into a hotel in Westport for a staycation and vica versa. This is all fully above board. I speak with hoteliers as part of my work.

    Some hotels that may close for winter have brought the closing date forward but otherwise most hotels remain open.

    Google some hotels (outside of Dublin city centre) over the next few days and you will see a variety of special offers related to level 3 and staying within your county.


  • #2809
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In fairness that shows increases at two key points, a few weeks after most restrictions were lifted (end of June) which flatlined for a period until schools reopened and has increased steadily since then.

    Yeah would have to agree. More kids are probably symptom free so will not get tested etc. You just need a small amount to go under the radar. Hope they stay open. We need them too. MM really needs them too though.

    This is poor speculation. So who knows. I'm just drawing lines. Feel free to draw your own.
    First line holidays.
    Second line, "latent taking the piss"
    Third line schools.

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    Israel

    https://twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1313832224287010816?s=20


  • #2810
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Such a disrespectful comment for those educating the children of this nation, particularly as they are at such risk at the moment, should be ashamed of yourself :mad:

    Its true though regardless if you don't like it. The unions giving out why do we have to work when everyone is nor forgetting doctors nurses delevery/takeaway drivers .

    Kids need structure and having school to go to in a good thing.

    Plus there is a lot more people at a hell of a lot more risk


  • #2811
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah would have to agree. More kids are probably symptom free so will not get tested etc. You just need a small amount to go under the radar. Hope they stay open. We need them too. MM really needs them too though.

    This is poor speculation. So who knows. I'm just drawing lines.
    First line holidays.
    Second line, "latent taking the piss"
    Third line schools.

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    Third line starts too early to have been schools. Would take at least 1.5 infection cycles to become apparent


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  • #2812
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Problems Contact tracing

    https://twitter.com/DrZeroCraic/status/1313752413724200961?s=19

    Quote
    But Dr Dee said the earliest staff will arrive from the new recruitment drive will be early next year.

    “In the meantime, and nobody seems to be grasping this, we need extra staff and resources now, immediately. We need them on the ground now and they are nowhere near being on the ground.

    “We would normally have followed up all our cases and identified extra contacts and try to work out the sources of their infection. But none of that is possible there now because we are so overwhelmed. With the figures going up all the time, we are now even closer to collapse than we have ever been. Now we are having to prioritise, which is always bad in a pandemic.”


  • #2813
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    Okay so I know nothing about this, but aren't we all descended from Neanderthals? Or are just Europeans descended from them? I'm embarrassed not to know this. I feel like this might be a white privilege thing where some part of history I assumed applied to everyone whereas in fact something completely different applies to African or Asian people.

    Would this explain why covid has not ripped through Africa like we thought it would, or perhaps didn't rip through China (though I'm more likely to believe that china just suppressed the numbers) they way you'd expect in a really high density relatively low income nation?


  • #2814
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Just been informed my 1 year old nephew has been hospitalized as a covid case, only social circle his family has at the moment is his mother is a teacher and he goes to creche, thats it. But im sure he caught it in the pub or gaa too.


  • #2815
    martingriff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Yeah would have to agree. More kids are probably symptom free so will not get tested etc. You just need a small amount to go under the radar. Hope they stay open. We need them too. MM really needs them too though.

    This is poor speculation. So who knows. I'm just drawing lines.
    First line holidays.
    Second line, "latent taking the piss"
    Third line schools.

    528565.png

    Israel

    https://twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1313832224287010816?s=20

    Ya its all the schools fault of this increase nothing else to look at folks!!!!!


  • #2816
    TonyMaloney
    Site Banned Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Third line starts too early to have been schools. Would take at least 1.5 infection cycles to become apparent

    I'll take meat-factories for 5 please, Bob


  • #2817
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,569 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    martingriff wrote: »
    Its true though regardless if you don't like it. The unions giving out why do we have to work when everyone is nor forgetting doctors nurses delevery/takeaway drivers .

    Kids need structure and having school to go to in a good thing.

    Plus there is a lot more people at a hell of a lot more risk

    Because working in a crowded classroom for 6-7 hours a day with no protection is vastly different to either of those


  • #2818
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Just been informed my 1 year old nephew has been hospitalized as a covid case, only social circle his family has at the moment is his mother is a teacher and he goes to creche, thats it. But im sure he caught it in the pub or gaa too.
    F*cking hell, all the best wishes to him


  • #2819
    Mam of 4
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,481 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Just been informed my 1 year old nephew has been hospitalized as a covid case, only social circle his family has at the moment is his mother is a teacher and he goes to creche, thats it. But im sure he caught it in the pub or gaa too.

    Geez , hope he'll be ok Icysf, poor little chap .

    https://forumofgames.com/



  • #2820
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,218 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    Just been informed my 1 year old nephew has been hospitalized as a covid case, only social circle his family has at the moment is his mother is a teacher and he goes to creche, thats it. But im sure he caught it in the pub or gaa too.

    Hope he gets better soon


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  • #2821
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,080 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    JDD wrote: »
    Okay so I know nothing about this, but aren't we all descended from Neanderthals? Or are just Europeans descended from them? I'm embarrassed not to know this. I feel like this might be a white privilege thing where some part of history I assumed applied to everyone whereas in fact something completely different applies to African or Asian people.

    Would this explain why covid has not ripped through Africa like we thought it would, or perhaps didn't rip through China (though I'm more likely to believe that china just suppressed the numbers) they way you'd expect in a really high density relatively low income nation?

    African countries have barely tested, as they likely can't afford it, so no real idea what their numbers are. According to worldometers, there are only African countries who've done more tests than us for example.


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