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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado



    Love to see Leo factchecked.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    I hope so. Societies work better when people know their place, The People’s Republic of China is a great example we could emulate . Of course fines will need to be thought of to keep people in line, who is afraid of a dog with no teeth?

    Depends Paddy. Could the dog **** on you though. I'd be afraid of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Im basing it on the logic that the restrictions were so slow to be realased last June/July when there was excess capacity in hospitals. I dont know what metric was being used then

    I assume the metric they are concerned with is hospital capacity now, which is always at maximum capacity during Winter/Spring.

    Applying that logic, we are where we are until next Summer.

    Agreed, im looking for a new job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭mountgomery burns


    Pissing people going off to work and hauliers is not clever. We need to start being a bit more nuanced. Clearly most people on the road at that time are going to work or hauliers. If we inspected work places we could prevent unnecessary journeys if that's the concern. Also how many nurses and doctors might be stuck in that or people who have essential journeys to make.

    Also Leo getting called out on his talking point sh!te. i.e Lies

    https://twitter.com/GabrielScally/status/1313444583238512640?s=20

    The country with one of the highest incident rates in Europe supports a zero Covid approach.

    A bit like saying Venezuela has a zero tolerance for crime


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    titan18 wrote: »
    I thought hotel bars and restaurants were to close too

    Hotel guests need to be fed


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Hulk Hands wrote: »
    Are any of those countries 'western Europe'? You could argue Norway/Germany at a push, depsite Germany commonly been seen as the centre-ground between east & west. He even specifically mentioned Portugal as being lower on CB. Nonsense tweets

    Nonsense hair splitting. He lied about an all Ireland approach though because of the border. NI Assembly Health committee supports it. Or perhaps you'd say what is Northern Ireland? Is it a different country or is it the UK. How can a country be a country if there is no frontier? How far north is actually north?

    Enough philosophical ramblings. He was bullsh!ting.

    North men, south men comrades call,
    Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Donegal.

    We're on the one road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭prunudo


    is_that_so wrote: »
    It's much more than schools, it's many other things. A whole lot more travel internally and abroad, communions, funerals, house parties, dinner parties, GAA & soccer clubs, people not isolating, contacts not isolating. Even if schools are a vector the intense focus on them suggests that cases can be identified and isolated a lot faster than elsewhere.

    I think there needs to be a rewording on the narrative in the media that its 'house parties'. That conjures up ideas in people's minds that its only spreading via drunken gatherings at 2am in the morning with music blaring.
    Any gathering in a house could cause the virus to spread if people aren't careful, whether its a chat over a cup of tea and biscuits at the kitchen table or a few bottles while watching a match on the tv.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Mullaghteelin


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    “Now is the winter of our discontent, pizzas, currys and buffalo wings”.

    It's not exactly black '47, no matter how bad we think we have it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    I can see riots if we go to level 5. The public shouldn’t be made suffer because of our health system is sh*t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Stage 5 would last until we flatten the curve again.
    While at stage 5 we draw up new laws to deter people from doing the stupid stuff that's causing the surges.
    We warn everybody that their futures are spending a lot of time at home if they don't remain careful, wear masks, wash their hands regularly and social distance.
    I heard for the first time only yesterday or the day before that a politician called for a meeting between north and south to try and come up with a shared approach to battling this thing. I've been saying this should have happened since the beginning.
    Non-covid healthcare should improve during a lockdown and make it safer for those people. Obviously those needing treatment have underlying conditions so we are trying to make things safer for them too.



    We need to close the schools immediately. It won't cause that much disruption as they are getting a mid-term break very soon. Having the lockdown encompass the mid-term break would be a very smart thing to do.

    No evidence of schools causing further outbreaks ...
    https://english.elpais.com/spanish_news/2020-10-07/early-study-in-spain-shows-school-reopenings-have-not-led-to-higher-coronavirus-spread.html
    This is from Spain, but I'd imagine it's similar across the world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,725 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Nonsense hair splitting. He lied about an all Ireland approach though because of the border. NI Assembly Health committee supports it. Or perhaps you'd say what is Northern Ireland? Is it a different country or is it the UK. How can a country be a country if there is no frontier? How far north is actually north?

    Enough philosophical ramblings. He was bullsh!ting.

    North men, south men comrades call,
    Dublin, Belfast, Cork and Donegal.

    We're on the one road.
    This is what known as a kitchen sink post! Anything useful in it is slowly draining away! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,817 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Eod100 wrote: »

    That is mental. Rampant up there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    prunudo wrote: »
    I think there needs to be a rewording on the narrative in the media that its 'house parties'. That conjures up ideas in people's minds that its only spreading via drunken gatherings at 2am in the morning with music blaring.
    Any gathering in a house could cause the virus to spread if people aren't careful, whether its a chat over a cup of tea and biscuits at the kitchen table or a few bottles while watching a match on the tv.
    They are all examples of exactly this. Some of it I see as people just letting their guard down and being happy to see each other and some of it is at the very stupid or couldn't care less end of things.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    That is mental. Rampant up there

    Has really gotten out of control over last 10 days or so. Anyone know what there cases are per 100,000 over last 14 - must be twice what we are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,801 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Love to see Leo factchecked.

    Is that Steve Austins new finishing move? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Has really gotten out of control over last 10 days or so. Anyone know what there cases are per 100,000 over last 14 - must be twice what we are?

    Yeah the 7 day is more than double ours but we are on our own trajectory. If Northern Ireland was a country in Western Europe it would probably be highest.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Eod100 wrote: »

    And they're saying they support a zero covid approach? Shutting the stable door after all the horses have well and truly galloped!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    I'm seeing and hearing so many people suggesting a circuit breaker before Christmas so we can all eat, drink and be merry over the festive season. That would be a huge waste of a lockdown IMO.

    It would mean people going straight from a lockdown to doing everything we've learned gives oxygen to Covid's accelerated spread. We could quite possibly end back in the same or worse situation for the rest of winter into spring.


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hotels are for essential workers only now afaik.

    Essential stays, I believe. So if, for example, rain is pouring through the your roof, then you can go stay in a hotel in your county while it’s fixed. My understanding is that it is up to the customer to attest as the essential nature of their stay


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    And they're saying they support a zero covid approach? Shutting the stable door after all the horses have well and truly galloped!

    I think they are saying they'd like an all Ireland approach.
    Remember we don't have a border so this thing tends to migrate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Did all the 48,000 people that the uk forget to contact trace because they got lost off the excell sheet, live up North? Anyone know more?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Getting the excuses in early. I believe him. Thousands wouldn't but I do.

    https://twitter.com/LegalEagleStar/status/1313598459665100801?s=20


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Eod100 wrote: »

    **** that's a lot of cases but there's only been about 3 or so deaths in NI last seven days though havnt there despite 4500 cases?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭Smegging hell




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    speckle wrote: »
    Did all the 48,000 people that the uk forget to contact trace because they got lost off the excell sheet, live up North? Anyone know more?
    England only. Public Health England related error.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 15,071 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    When we went to Phase 3 of the old roadmap back in June it was remain within your county or within 20km into another county if you live near a county border. Is there a similar rule this time? Quite difficult for those living in rural areas near other county boundaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,791 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Leo has always been excellent at reading the pulse of the nation and working with his PR team to put a nice spin on his thoughts. I am not sure Mr Martin is too impressed though.

    Watching the Dail earlier, Alan Kelly and Roisin Shortall were asking excellent questions but getting no answers.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567



    That is unbelievably high
    Next highest in all fo Europe is Netherlands at 30 per 100,000

    wtaf are they at up North? How is it spreading faster in the north than literally almost the entire world? It's literally probably the highest incidence rate on earth


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree



    Sinn Fein are doing a really bad job.


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