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The Great Reset

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  • #52
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    At a guess, the horrifying point he's making is that fruit and veg will be packed for reasons of hygiene. This hasn't actually happened but wouldn't be the worst tbh. Also you'll be perfectly free to do it when you get home. You're easily horrified.

    Thanks. I didn't think of that.


  • #53
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Thank you. That makes sense. I'm overthinking things, but the words 'Great Reset' frighten me for some reason.

    the list of things that frighten and disturb you seems quite long and growing.


  • #54
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    the list of things that frighten and disturb you seems quite long and growing.

    But I think it's reasonable to be disturbed about the UN getting a choir to sing "a new world order behind closed doors", one of the most power men on the planet to smile after saying the next pandemic would get people's attention (if you think this one is bad you ain't seen nothing yet), the powerful WEF to be talking about resetting the planet, not to mention Lockstep in the Rockefeller Report predicting to a tee what's going on now, and Event 201 predicting to a tee what's going on now. And the reaction to a virus with a 99.9% survival rate (muzzles, abandoning the handshake to bump elbows instead, talk of health passports, and a possible mandatory vaccine) is so disproportionate to suggest that something is going on. I don't know what, but all of the things I mentioned above are, in my opinion, a cause for concern. And I think most reasonable people would find the idea of resetting the planet to be a bit concerning.


  • #55
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But I think it's reasonable to be disturbed about the UN getting a choir to sing "a new world order behind closed doors", one of the most power men on the planet to smile after saying the next pandemic would get people's attention (if you think this one is bad you ain't seen nothing yet), the powerful WEF to be talking about resetting the planet, not to mention Lockstep in the Rockefeller Report predicting to a tee what's going on now, and Event 201 predicting to a tee what's going on now. And the reaction to a virus with a 99.9% survival rate (muzzles, abandoning the handshake to bump elbows instead, talk of health passports, and a possible mandatory vaccine) is so disproportionate to suggest that something is going on. I don't know what, but all of the things I mentioned above are, in my opinion, a cause for concern. And I think most reasonable people would find the idea of resetting the planet to be a bit concerning.

    you keep repeating it though it is not true. Event 201 predicted 65M deaths. have we had 65M deaths?


  • #56
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    you keep repeating it though it is not true. Event 201 predicted 65M deaths. have we had 65M deaths?

    There are a few differences all right.

    But do any of the other things I mentioned worry you?


  • #57
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But I think it's reasonable to be disturbed about the UN getting a choir to sing "a new world order behind closed doors"

    Yes, it means that after the pandemic there maybe be a new order in the world in terms of approaches to pandemics, economics, everything. Which is normal. When we had the e.g. 2008 financial crisis, it was a huge crisis and it changed a lot of things. The world changes and adapts a lot, just compare yourself now to your grandparents time - it doesn't automatically mean it's "scary" or "nefarious"
    one of the most power men on the planet to smile after saying the next pandemic would get people's attention (if you think this one is bad you ain't seen nothing yet),

    He is at interviews all day long. I had a very serious meeting at work last year and the head of department and another director were smiling a lot because they had spent all night on the project and had private jokes. It doesn't mean they were part of some inside job.

    And yes, the next pandemic could be much worse. It's important to remember that this one, whilst very contagious, in terms of death rate - it's quite "mild". We could have a far more dangerous one, and it's critical to remind the world of this so we don't slack off after this one
    the powerful WEF to be talking about resetting the planet,

    Nope they are talking about changes that are occurring because of the pandemic. The world's economy was essentially put on pause for months - that hasn't happened much before, so naturally it changes things a bit. A lot of airlines, hostels, restaurants, etc, etc going out of business is a "reset" for those sectors.

    You are taking the word literally and becoming scared of what you imagine
    not to mention Lockstep in the Rockefeller Report predicting to a tee what's going on now, and Event 201 predicting to a tee what's going on now.

    This isn't a part of some "plan" or "conspiracy", there are people who love that stuff and fill the internet with their fantasies about it. It's a contagious virus, we've had them in the past, this one is quite prominent. Thankfully it doesn't have a high fatality rate. Yes it is concerning, but we are gradually reducing it thanks to masks, social distancing, hand-washing, medical information, etc
    And the reaction to a virus with a 99.9% survival rate (muzzles, abandoning the handshake to bump elbows instead, talk of health passports, and a possible mandatory vaccine)

    Muzzles? when you cough you spread tiny droplets, the virus is believed to exist on these droplets and can spread to others. A mask helps curb or stop that so it only makes sense to wear a mask. Shaking someone else's hand helps spread the virus, is it essential? nope, so we stop doing it and use something else instead (the elbow bump seems to be popular). Again common sense. Health passports? yup, these might be a thing to stop the spread of the virus from one country to another. Again, a totally common sense solution.

    Mandatory vaccine? No. There is a group of internet anti-vaxxers and fantasists obsessed for the last 2 decades at least that some "powers that be" are going to force vaccines on people. It hasn't happened yet. However, Germany and Australia have toyed with the idea, why? because anti-vaxx lunatics are causing infectious diseases (like measles) to make a comeback - which makes health professionals think "hey, these people are idiots, we might have to make them get vaccines for their own protection".

    Again, the issue is stupid people, not the vaccines themselves.


  • #58
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    There are a few differences all right.

    But do any of the other things I mentioned worry you?

    so event 201 didn't predict to a tee what is happening in the current pandemic. In fact you would probably find more differences if you cared to look.

    as for the other things you have mention you have already had explanations for some on them on other threads but for some reason they continue to worry you. as you said yourself, you overthink things.


  • #59
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Yes, it means that after the pandemic there maybe be a new order in the world in terms of approaches to pandemics, economics, everything. Which is normal. When we had the e.g. 2008 financial crisis, it was a huge crisis and it changed a lot of things. The world changes and adapts a lot, just compare yourself now to your grandparents time - it doesn't automatically mean it's "scary" or "nefarious"



    He is at interviews all day long. I had a very serious meeting at work last year and the head of department and another director were smiling a lot because they had spent all night on the project and had private jokes. It doesn't mean they were part of some inside job.

    And yes, the next pandemic could be much worse. It's important to remember that this one, whilst very contagious, in terms of death rate - it's quite "mild". We could have a far more dangerous one, and it's critical to remind the world of this so we don't slack off after this one



    Nope they are talking about changes that are occurring because of the pandemic. The world's economy was essentially put on pause for months - that hasn't happened much before, so naturally it changes things a bit. A lot of airlines, hostels, restaurants, etc, etc going out of business is a "reset" for those sectors.

    You are taking the word literally and becoming scared of what you imagine



    This isn't a part of some "plan" or "conspiracy", there are people who love that stuff and fill the internet with their fantasies about it. It's a contagious virus, we've had them in the past, this one is quite prominent. Thankfully it doesn't have a high fatality rate. Yes it is concerning, but we are gradually reducing it thanks to masks, social distancing, hand-washing, medical information, etc



    Muzzles? when you cough you spread tiny droplets, the virus is believed to exist on these droplets and can spread to others. A mask helps curb or stop that so it only makes sense to wear a mask. Shaking someone else's hand helps spread the virus, is it essential? nope, so we stop doing it and use something else instead (the elbow bump seems to be popular). Again common sense. Health passports? yup, these might be a thing to stop the spread of the virus from one country to another. Again, a totally common sense solution.

    Mandatory vaccine? No. There is a group of internet anti-vaxxers and fantasists obsessed for the last 2 decades at least that some "powers that be" are going to force vaccines on people. It hasn't happened yet. However, Germany and Australia have toyed with the idea, why? because anti-vaxx lunatics are causing infectious diseases (like measles) to make a comeback - which makes health professionals think "hey, these people are idiots, we might have to make them get vaccines for their own protection".

    Again, the issue is stupid people, not the vaccines themselves.

    Thank you for the interesting reply.

    The thing I worry about is 'behind closed doors'. That makes it sound like a secret organisation working behind closed doors.

    But WEF is talking about resetting every aspect of human life and behaviour. It's far-reaching.

    I think the elbow bump is ghastly, but to each their own.

    Health passports should definitely be resisted. Isn't a health passport similar to the social credit system in China? If they were just for traveling then maybe, but they're talking about them being used for more than just travel. By they I mean the people behind the health passports.


  • #60
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    so event 201 didn't predict to a tee what is happening in the current pandemic. In fact you would probably find more differences if you cared to look.

    as for the other things you have mention you have already had explanations for some on them on other threads but for some reason they continue to worry you. as you said yourself, you overthink things.

    Yes, I shouldn't have written 'to a tee'. Sorry.


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  • #61
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    https://capstonereport.com/2020/08/30/gnostic-republic-the-technocratic-elite-their-vision-for-a-new-america/34906/

    Interesting article on The Great Reset.


  • #62
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    https://capstonereport.com/2020/08/30/gnostic-republic-the-technocratic-elite-their-vision-for-a-new-america/34906/

    Interesting article on The Great Reset.

    Whats interesting about it? That these Capstone Report guys are insane religious nutjobs?


  • #63
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    The Nal wrote: »
    Whats interesting about it? That these Capstone Report guys are insane religious nutjobs?

    Did you read the article?


  • #64
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,012 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Did you read the article?

    Yep, usual stuff. God, Soros, elites, taking our liberties etc. I also researched the author.

    First line is a red flag.

    "The Woke believe they are awakened to the truth while the masses sleep; therefore, only the Woke feel entitled to lead America and your Evangelical church"

    So evangelicals then. Lauding Oliver Cromwell. They stopped just short of "heritage".

    What did you find interesting about it?

    From a website that blames Biden for the lack of response to the current storms in the gulf coast. Couldnt make it up.

    https://capstonereport.com/2020/09/16/joe-biden-acts-like-hillary-clinton-and-ignores-storm-victims/34949/


  • #65
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Did you read the article?

    what did you find interesting about the article? It is bad form to just dump a link without giving your own opinion.


  • #66
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    what did you find interesting about the article? It is bad form to just dump a link without giving your own opinion.

    Sorry, you're right.

    I thought the author described the motivations behind The Great Reset well.

    "The entire push for a Great Reset is ideological. It is a belief that capitalism is inherently “less equal.” So, it requires big government with wealth transfers, increased regulation and other draconian powers to enforce equality."


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  • #67
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    https://winteroak.org.uk/2020/10/05/klaus-schwab-and-his-great-fascist-reset/amp/

    "The WEF aims to replace democracy with a global leadership of hand-picked unelected individuals whose duty is not to serve the public, but to impose the rule of the 1% on that public with as little interference from the rest of us as possible."

    Scary stuff.


  • #68
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Dionaibh wrote:
    "The entire push for a Great Reset is ideological. It is a belief that capitalism is inherently “less equal.†So, it requires big government with wealth transfers, increased regulation and other draconian powers to enforce equality."

    Maybe it's our current form of capitalism that's the problem, maybe we need to change to another form, that reduces inequality, maybe we ve deregulated critical sectors such as the fire sectors (finance, insurance and real estate), maybe our political institutions are required for this?
    Dionaibh wrote:
    "The WEF aims to replace democracy with a global leadership of hand-picked unelected individuals whose duty is not to serve the public, but to impose the rule of the 1% on that public with as little interference from the rest of us as possible."

    De-demoratisation of our societies is largely a bi-product, and a critical component of our current form of capitalism, neoliberalism, in which most of our major economic organisations such as the wef operate under. it's largely unintentionally practised, we have managed to convince ourselves, that this behaviour is good for humanity, that the tide rises and the wealth trickles down, it's partly true, but largely untrue. I'm sorry folks, but there's no conspiracy, we ve just managed to conspire against ourselves, implementing a form of capitalism that's potentially lethal to all humans, including the wealthy, it's time to move on from it.


  • #69
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Maybe it's our current form of capitalism that's the problem, maybe we need to change to another form, that reduces inequality, maybe we ve deregulated critical sectors such as the fire sectors (finance, insurance and real estate), maybe our political institutions are required for this?



    De-demoratisation of our societies is largely a bi-product, and a critical component of our current form of capitalism, neoliberalism, in which most of our major economic organisations such as the wef operate under. it's largely unintentionally practised, we have managed to convince ourselves, that this behaviour is good for humanity, that the tide rises and the wealth trickles down, it's partly true, but largely untrue. I'm sorry folks, but there's no conspiracy, we ve just managed to conspire against ourselves, implementing a form of capitalism that's potentially lethal to all humans, including the wealthy, it's time to move on from it.

    But do you not think that the Great Reset is about more than just a new form of capitalism? Is the aim to enslave us?


  • #70
    PaulieC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭PaulieC


    I am going to bite as I love these conspiracy theories but I can never get an answer to a very basic question, maybe the OP can answer.
    • Who is behind the great reset ?
    • How do they benefit from it?
    • What interest have they in "controlling" John Q. Citizen ?


  • #71
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    the aim to enslave us?
    Where do you get this notion from?

    Where do the people behind the Great Reset state this?
    Please provide a quote.


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  • #72
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    PaulieC wrote: »
    I am going to bite as I love these conspiracy theories but I can never get an answer to a very basic question, maybe the OP can answer.
    • Who is behind the great reset ?
    • How do they benefit from it?
    • What interest have they in "controlling" John Q. Citizen ?

    1. The World Economic Forum is behind the Great Reset.

    2. They benefit by having control over humanity, and changing the world to achieve their climate change goals.

    3. Good question. But I imagine it's the lust for power. Plus, if they can control people they can make sure that we behave according to how they want us to behave.


  • #73
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Where do you get this notion from?

    Where do the people behind the Great Reset state this?
    Please provide a quote.

    If you read articles about the Great Reset it's reasonable to come to the conclusion that the aim is to enslave human beings and to concentrate all power in the hands of a global elite.

    They haven't said that that's the plan, but if you read between the lines that appears to be what the aim is.


  • #74
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    If you read articles about the Great Reset it's reasonable to come to the conclusion that the aim is to enslave human beings and to concentrate all power in the hands of a global elite.
    Lol. No, that's not a reasonable conclusion at all.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    They haven't said that that's the plan, but if you read between the lines that appears to be what the aim is.
    So they haven't said that's their plan.

    I thought you were claiming they were doing everything out in the open?


  • #75
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol. No, that's not a reasonable conclusion at all.


    So they haven't said that's their plan.

    I thought you were claiming they were doing everything out in the open?

    That blog post / article I posted quotes Klaus Schwab and it sounds terrifying. WEF has floated the idea of health passports. They want to change the world, and they're going to. Even if we don't end up being enslaved we're going to be considerable less free. And they're following the script again. The Prime Minister of Canada spoke of 'build back better' and 'the great reset'. Boris Johnson is going on about 'build back better'. So is Biden. And they all followed the script with 'new normal' five minutes after the declaration of a pandemic.

    They are out in the open, but I think coming out and saying 'we're going to enslave you' would be going too far. So they leave it up to us to read between the lines. But I of course could be wrong. I'm open to being wrong, but from what I've read it sounds like massive changes are nigh.


  • #76
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    That blog post / article I posted quotes Klaus Schwab and it sounds terrifying. WEF has floated the idea of health passports. They want to change the world, and they're going to. Even if we don't end up being enslaved we're going to be considerable less free. And they're following the script again. The Prime Minister of Canada spoke of 'build back better' and 'the great reset'. Boris Johnson is going on about 'build back better'. So is Biden. And they all followed the script with 'new normal' five minutes after the declaration of a pandemic.

    They are out in the open, but I think coming out and saying 'we're going to enslave you' would be going too far. So they leave it up to us to read between the lines. But I of course could be wrong. I'm open to being wrong, but from what I've read it sounds like massive changes are nigh.

    I bet the same was said when the automobile, train, plane, computers, Internet were invented. And they would have been right. But they were all for the good, what makes you think change will be bad?


  • #77
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    I bet the same was said when the automobile, train, plane, computers, Internet were invented. And they would have been right. But they were all for the good, what makes you think change will be bad?

    Because they have spoken of health passports, a digital economy / currency, digital ids, transhumanism, and chipping human beings. I don't like the sound of any of them.


  • #78
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    That blog post / article I posted quotes Klaus Schwab and it sounds terrifying.
    But again, you can't explain why it's terrifying. It's just more vague insinuations from yourself with no actual substance. It's all just nonsense you've read from conspiracy blogs and never thought critically about.
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    They are out in the open, but I think coming out and saying 'we're going to enslave you' would be going too far. So they leave it up to us to read between the lines.
    This is a contradiction.
    You are saying that they are being open and they aren't being open.

    This is a common silly conceit that many paranoid conspiracy theories have.
    The conspirators have to be "doing it in the open" so there's clues for the conspiracy theorists to find. There's often no explanation for why the conspirators would be doing it openly.

    Then when the conspiracy theorist runs into an issue with this, they will flip and say that the conspirators are obviously doing everything in secret.
    This is usually in response to requests for evidence or like above asking for direct quotes.

    It's a very silly and dishonest position, but it's one that lets conspiracy theories avoid scrutiny.


  • #79
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But do you not think that the Great Reset is about more than just a new form of capitalism? Is the aim to enslave us?

    unfortunately, humanity has a history of enslaving itself, theres not a conspiracy to do so, it is of our own making, again, this is largely unintentional, but of course there is also intention within these actions


  • #80
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But again, you can't explain why it's terrifying. It's just more vague insinuations from yourself with no actual substance. It's all just nonsense you've read from conspiracy blogs and never thought critically about.


    This is a contradiction.
    You are saying that they are being open and they aren't being open.

    This is a common silly conceit that many paranoid conspiracy theories have.
    The conspirators have to be "doing it in the open" so there's clues for the conspiracy theorists to find. There's often no explanation for why the conspirators would be doing it openly.

    Then when the conspiracy theorist runs into an issue with this, they will flip and say that the conspirators are obviously doing everything in secret.
    This is usually in response to requests for evidence or like above asking for direct quotes.

    It's a very silly and dishonest position, but it's one that lets conspiracy theories avoid scrutiny.

    Dave Cullen breaks it all down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gkUJk4dvaM

    But the authors of the blogs quote people involved with the Great Reset.

    I'm saying that they're being open, but that they know that "we're going to enslave you" would make even the most compliant stand up and take notice. So they don't come out with it directly.

    A conspiracy theory suggests secret knowledge of a nefarious plan. But there's no secret knowledge in this case. It's all there for people to read about.


  • #81
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    unfortunately, humanity has a history of enslaving itself, theres not a conspiracy to do so, it is of our own making, again, this is largely unintentional, but of course there is also intention within these actions

    How is it of our own making? The way I see it WEF has decided for the world that we need a new world.


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  • #82
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    How is it of our own making? The way I see it WEF has decided for the world that we need a new world.

    when you say "world" can you clarify what you mean? the entire world? The western world only? what


  • #83
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    "The pause during lockdown created by the pandemic will result in a 7% decrease in global emissions in 2020. The UN states that we need a decrease of 7.6% every year until 2030 to avoid climate and ecological disaster. This means we need to maintain the same decrease every year as if we were living in lockdown."

    From https://greatreset.com/

    Is it still a conspiracy theory?


  • #84
    Elmer Blooker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    The Nal wrote: »
    Whats interesting about it? That these Capstone Report guys are insane religious nutjobs?
    Former Bank of England Governor Lord Mervyn King is hardly a religious nutjob?
    Here he says in this pre covid year old article that nothing has changed since the 2008 meltdown and without using the word 'reset' he does mention talks 'behind closed doors' and 'a suspension of some of the rules' which basically is resetting the world economy.
    Lets hope these 'talks behind closed doors' are underway so we can get back to some sort of normality!
    King said it was time for the Federal Reserve and other central banks to begin talks behind closed doors with politicians to make legislators aware of how vulnerable they would be in the event of another crisis.

    He said: “Congress would be confronted with a choice between financial armageddon and a suspension of some of the rules that were introduced after the last crisis to limit the ability of the Fed to lend.”
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/oct/20/world-sleepwalking-to-another-financial-crisis-says-mervyn-king (click I'll do it later to read article)


  • #85
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    How is it of our own making? The way I see it WEF has decided for the world that we need a new world.

    humanity in its entirety has created ideologies such as neoliberalism, and has helped it grow, for example, you d be surprised of the amount of people who truly beleive ideas such as, 'the market knows best', the market is always efficient, the state is inefficient'. 'a rising tide lifts all boats', 'the wealth trickles down', these are comments created by humans, believed by many humans and encouraged by humans, i.e. we are creating our own conspiracy against ourselves!


  • #86
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Dave Cullen breaks it all down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gkUJk4dvaM

    But the authors of the blogs quote people involved with the Great Reset.
    But we've covered this before.
    People, especially cranks on youtube, can misrepresent things to make them seem more sinister.
    You keep forgetting this and keep falling for the easiest grift in the book
    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'm saying that they're being open, but that they know that "we're going to enslave you" would make even the most compliant stand up and take notice. So they don't come out with it directly.

    A conspiracy theory suggests secret knowledge of a nefarious plan. But there's no secret knowledge in this case. It's all there for people to read about.
    Again, you're saying contradictory things.


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    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    But we've covered this before.
    People, especially cranks on youtube, can misrepresent things to make them seem more sinister.
    You keep forgetting this and keep falling for the easiest grift in the book


    Again, you're saying contradictory things.

    But Dave Cullen quotes the following from the Great Reset website:

    "The pause during lockdown created by the pandemic will result in a 7% decrease in global emissions in 2020. The UN states that we need a decrease of 7.6% every year until 2030 to avoid climate and ecological disaster. This means we need to maintain the same decrease every year as if we were living in lockdown."

    From https://greatreset.com/

    What does "as if we were living in lockdown" mean to you? Doesn't it suggest that the way we're living now is to be permanent?


  • #88
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But Dave Cullen quotes the following from the Great Reset website:

    "The pause during lockdown created by the pandemic will result in a 7% decrease in global emissions in 2020. The UN states that we need a decrease of 7.6% every year until 2030 to avoid climate and ecological disaster. This means we need to maintain the same decrease every year as if we were living in lockdown."

    From https://greatreset.com/

    What does "as if we were living in lockdown" mean to you? Doesn't it suggest that the way we're living now is to be permanent?

    No


  • #89
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    No

    What do you think it means?


  • #90
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    What do you think it means?

    It means we need to decrease emissions. Its not rocket science.


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  • #91
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    It means we need to decrease emissions. Its not rocket science.

    Yes, but "as if we were living in lockdown" suggests a continuation of distancing, masks, less flying etc, does it not?


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    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Yes, but "as if we were living in lockdown" suggests a continuation of distancing, masks, less flying etc, does it not?

    Distancing and masks are not responsible for a reduction of emissions... In terms of reduced flying and working from home more often, yep they're gonna become more common. Plenty of people prefer working from home and the environmentally benefits are just another reason. Reduced flying includes less unnecessary corporate journeys. It also doesn't mean no travel, eg high speed rail is an option on mainland Europe. Adjusting behaviours does not mean a state of lockdown.

    That website is also created by the below group, not the WEF.

    https://www.purposedisruptors.org/


  • #93
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Yes, but "as if we were living in lockdown" suggests a continuation of distancing, masks, less flying etc, does it not?

    Hmmm.


  • #94
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Distancing and masks are not responsible for a reduction of emissions... In terms of reduced flying and working from home more often, yep they're gonna become more common. Plenty of people prefer working from home and the environmentally benefits are just another reason. Reduced flying includes less unnecessary corporate journeys. It also doesn't mean no travel, eg high speed rail is an option on mainland Europe. Adjusting behaviours does not mean a state of lockdown.

    That website is also created by the below group, not the WEF.

    https://www.purposedisruptors.org/

    So do you think people will still be able to fly whenever they want?


  • #95
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,189 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    So do you think people will still be able to fly whenever they want?

    It's hard not to suspect you are completely taking the piss with these types of questions.

    What's stopping people from flying now? the pandemic

    Once the virus is no longer an issue, why won't people be able to fly? Think.


  • #96
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's hard not to suspect you are completely taking the piss with these types of questions.

    What's stopping people from flying now? the pandemic

    Once the virus is no longer an issue, why won't people be able to fly? Think.

    I'm not taking the piss. I was just wondering if people think that maybe flying and flights will be reduced as part of the Great Reset and to continue to live "as if we were still living in lockdown".


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  • #97
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    But Dave Cullen quotes the following from the Great Reset website:
    Well if Dave Cullen says something it has to be true.
    He's the great Dave Cullen after all...


  • #98
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    I'm not taking the piss. I was just wondering if people think that maybe flying and flights will be reduced as part of the Great Reset and to continue to live "as if we were still living in lockdown".

    No legal restrictions will be put in place on your ability to fly. Unnecessary corporate trips will likely happen less often. So any adjustments are likely natural behavioural changes rather than some grand plot by evil groups.


  • #99
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well if Dave Cullen says something it has to be true.
    He's the great Dave Cullen after all...

    He quoted from greatreset.com.


  • #100
    Dionaibh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Dionaibh


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No legal restrictions will be put in place on your ability to fly. Unnecessary corporate trips will likely happen less often. So any adjustments are likely natural behavioural changes rather than some grand plot by evil groups.

    Thanks. The reason I was wondering is because WEF, the UN and WHO are all heavily pushing climate change and the need to change the way we live to reduce emissions and so on. So I was wondering whether they might try to restrict flying.


  • #101
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,644 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Dionaibh wrote: »
    Thanks. The reason I was wondering is because WEF, the UN and WHO are all heavily pushing climate change and the need to change the way we live to reduce emissions and so on. So I was wondering whether they might try to restrict flying.

    No they won't

    They will encourage less coal burning, newer/cleaner electric cars, less dependency on fossil fuels, more solar power, nuclear power.

    No one is trying to stop you from going on your two weeks a year to Lanzerote.


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