Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

Eod100 · 06-10-2020 08:45PM

Stheno wrote: »

Wonder was that a factor in NPHET recommendation? Yet more crap planning by the HSE

I'd say so. Looks like NPHET contacted HSE 3 times advising them to increase staffing in public health departments but nothing was done. https://twitter.com/marietcasey/status/1313553990391672834

copeyhagen · 06-10-2020 08:47PM

Strumms wrote: »

Even with heaters, would you bother your hole ? It’s hardly going to be any comfort in that as winter hits.

as opposed to sitting at home drinking cans.. yes, in a heartbeat

Eod100 · 06-10-2020 08:47PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

I think he said that last night, it just wasn't the right approach without more discussion /thought.

That would be one thing. But the public criticism of NPHET was far stronger than that. How does he think it will look if things get worse over next 3 weeks and still have to go into level 5 after?

speckle · 06-10-2020 08:48PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Its the practicalities of such plans that arent feasible, like the one pointed out. It would be a bit like Nphet giving out economic advice.

Well, why not ask us what we need. It can't be money, because if the government spent what they have to give in PUP payments and to business instead to those who are high risk and their families, I am sure we could find a multitude of ways to creatively protect ourselves in practical ways.

bb1234567 · 06-10-2020 08:51PM

Fantastic to see Dublin's cases declining, and on a Tuesday of all days! So, doesn't this kind of confirm that indoor dining was the source of a lot of community transmission then?

political analyst · 06-10-2020 08:54PM

is_that_so wrote: »

There are many vested interests in the HSE, including some of our brave heroes. I don't envy Reid his job and he actually wanted it!

Other than the clerical workers' union Impact, what are these vested interests?

Why would nurses, physicians or paramedics object to anything that would improve care for patients?

TexasTornado · 06-10-2020 08:54PM

Huge few weeks coming up for this government. If cases continue to rise and god forbid the deaths begin to pile up they are complete toast having rejected the experts advice.

manniot2 · 06-10-2020 08:55PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Fantastic to see Dublin's cases declining, and on a Tuesday of all days! So, doesn't this kind of confirm that indoor dining was the source of a lot of community transmission then?

Or maybe everyone with a sniffle went and got tested as soon as the schools reopened. Think the novelty has probably worn off a bit now.

Thargor · 06-10-2020 08:55PM

Our landlord insists on an agency cleaner coming in and cleaning all the common areas in our house every 2 weeks that we never really wanted even before Covid, is that allowed under level 3 restrictions?

manniot2 · 06-10-2020 08:56PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Huge few weeks coming up for this government. If cases continue to rise and god forbid the deaths begin to pile up they are complete toast having rejected the experts advice.

Respiratory illness cases and deaths will arise, same as every winter.

Ficheall · 06-10-2020 08:56PM

Thargor wrote: »

Our landlord insists on an agency cleaner coming in and cleaning all the common areas in our house every 2 weeks that we never really wanted even before Covid, is that allowed under level 3 restrictions?

That sounds ridiculous, tbh.

GooglePlus · 06-10-2020 08:57PM

Thargor wrote: »

Our landlord insists on an agency cleaner coming in and cleaning all the common areas in our house every 2 weeks that we never really wanted even before Covid, is that allowed under level 3 restrictions?

That's not allowed under any restrictions unless he lives with you and you're a licencee as opposed to a tenant.

khalessi · 06-10-2020 08:57PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Or maybe everyone with a sniffle went and got tested as soon as the schools reopened. Think the novelty has probably worn off a bit now.

If they have symptoms similar to covid19 they are supposed to stay off from school contact gp and go for test if advised. Not a novelty but a health and safety requirement

eagle eye · 06-10-2020 08:59PM

speckle wrote:

I hope you are keeping well. but why use yourselves if you are high risk, ti should be ourselves? And yes, there will be a range of different voices within the high risk catorgories. I don't need a gun for protection, but I have always had a gra to try archery.

I like the thought of walking around with a bow and many arrows actually and some cool archery gear.

verizon · 06-10-2020 09:00PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Huge few weeks coming up for this government. If cases continue to rise and god forbid the deaths begin to pile up they are complete toast having rejected the experts advice.

You obviously don't get bored repeating yourself. The human bot.

jojofizzio · 06-10-2020 09:00PM

political analyst wrote: »

Other than the clerical workers' union Impact, what are these vested interests?

Why would nurses, physicians or paramedics object to anything that would improve care for patients?

IMPACT no longer exists.It was subsumed into FÓRSA in 2018,and represents many Health and Social care professionals (as well as clerical grades within the HSE)

Loafing Oaf · 06-10-2020 09:00PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

they are complete toast having rejected the experts advice.

SF and Labour both (kind of) backed that decision, so they've got political cover...

manniot2 · 06-10-2020 09:01PM

khalessi wrote: »

If they have symptoms similar to covid19 they are supposed to stay off from school contact gp and go for test if advised. Not a novelty but a health and safety requirement

Yeah I know but I suspect people won’t be long getting sick of this routine every time a kids gets a cough. I think it might be happening already.

bb1234567 · 06-10-2020 09:02PM

Odd how it went like Italy, Spain, then France then UK in March, and then same again now with the omission of Italy who kept a lid on it second time round. Wonder why that might be.
UK not doing that great at the moment, almost 500 hospitalisations in a day yesterday
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-reports-14-542-new-cases-almost-2-000-more-than-yesterday-12091695

TexasTornado · 06-10-2020 09:02PM

Gardai with zero new powers it seems to stop the chancers breaking the rules. That'll teach them.

TexasTornado · 06-10-2020 09:03PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

SF and Labour both (kind of) backed that decision, so they've got political cover...

Doesn't matter, FFG are wearing the kings crown and people won't forget when it becomes apparent they've made a balls of this.

Strumms · 06-10-2020 09:04PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Respiratory illness cases and deaths will arise, same as every winter.

Arising yes. Due in the main to more of us indoors for longer but how much of an upshot of covid is a very interesting and crucial question. Indoors for longer should not mean not distanced. More cases maybe but if out of hand , only ourselves to blame.

GooglePlus · 06-10-2020 09:04PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd how it went like Italy, Spain, then France then UK in March, and then same again now with the omission of Italy who kept a lid on it second time round. Wonder why that might be.
UK not doing that great at the moment, almost 500 hospitalisations in a day yesterday
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-reports-14-542-new-cases-almost-2-000-more-than-yesterday-12091695

Some of the most populated countries in Europe. Germany have their **** together.

Goldrickssan · 06-10-2020 09:04PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Gardai with zero new powers it seems to stop the chancers breaking the rules. That'll teach them.

You sound like a miserable old back bencher resigned to opposition for your whole career

Ficheall · 06-10-2020 09:04PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd how it went like Italy, Spain, then France then UK in March, and then same again now with the omission of Italy who kept a lid on it second time round. Wonder why that might be.

Once properly bitten..

khalessi · 06-10-2020 09:04PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Yeah I know but I suspect people won’t be long getting sick of this routine every time a kids gets a cough. I think it might be happening already.

Actually, what I see is that the back to school virus has done the rounds of most of the children so there are less absences compared to when schools opened a few weeks ago.

However parents are still getting their children tested as they should if they have relevant symptoms. I have already had one of the kids tested and will continue to do so every time they display symptoms, as that is what is necessary in today's climate.

Jim_Hodge · 06-10-2020 09:05PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Huge few weeks coming up for this government. If cases continue to rise and god forbid the deaths begin to pile up they are complete toast having rejected the experts advice.

I think you'll find that the opposition and general public have now accepted the fact that Level 3 was the only prudent decision and the one they would have made themselves. Yet again you just don't seem to have your finger in the pulse here.

Strumms · 06-10-2020 09:05PM

copeyhagen wrote: »

as opposed to sitting at home drinking cans.. yes, in a heartbeat

I’d take the cans, tv, Netflix and PS4 in a heartbeat

My local which I passed earlier are building an outdoor heated lounge thing on their side carpark. I can’t say it will be appealing come November.. I’d fully expect the neighbors to be giving out too. I would be.

06-10-2020 09:06PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Odd how it went like Italy, Spain, then France then UK in March, and then same again now with the omission of Italy who kept a lid on it second time round. Wonder why that might be.
UK not doing that great at the moment, almost 500 hospitalisations in a day yesterday
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-uk-reports-14-542-new-cases-almost-2-000-more-than-yesterday-12091695

I was in Italy a few weeks ago, everyone takes it very seriously. The mask discipline and general behaviour was very good, even back then when cases all over Europe were very low. Maybe 30% of people in Rome were voluntarily wearing masks in the street when there was no advice to do so. I’m sure that that has a lot to do with it

obi604 · 06-10-2020 09:07PM

Hi. With level 3, can the standard Joe soap pub that serves the few pints open?

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