Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

MerlinSouthDub · 06-10-2020 03:07PM

Benimar wrote: »

516 positive swabs on 11,646 tests - 4.43% positivity

Key thing now is how many cases in Dublin. Hopefully, it stays stable.

Drumpot · 06-10-2020 03:07PM

So PUP, public buy in/time and economy were stated as reasons For not taking up level 5 recommendations. I didn’t want level 5 and was as shocked as anybody with the news but I’d like to think that there was more thought put into the decision the above three things.

What are the projections of what a national level 3 is going to achieve and how have we factored that in with regards to our healthcare system being maintained over a potentially really long couple of months??

Roots 2020 · 06-10-2020 03:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Major outbreak at a nursing home in Portlaoise - at least 30 cases among residents and staff.

That news is 3 days old.

440Hertz · 06-10-2020 03:08PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

Seem to be testing less over the past few days...

Also the rumour mill has got going on twitter that Dr Tony H is going to tender his resignation later today

To be quite honest, the Twitter rumour mill can be nearly as bad as the damn Coronavirus at times!

Eod100 · 06-10-2020 03:08PM

stockshares wrote: »

I wonder if this a better long term option than doing deals with Private Hospitals like earlier in the year.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313480042400428032?s=19

Doubt they'd want to sell

caveat emptor · 06-10-2020 03:08PM

is_that_so wrote: »

So probably 500 odd again. Positivity rate is creeping up.

It sure is. It's one of those rare metrics where an increase in positivity is actually negative.

wes · 06-10-2020 03:09PM

political analyst wrote: »

How many of the 21 intensive care cases are of the vulnerable categories?

If the vulnerable are taking precautions then why are there so many cases?

Why are so many people who are not of the vulnerable categories susceptible to severe symptoms?

The fact remains that our health care capacity is severely limited.

06-10-2020 03:10PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Fantastic piece in the Journal from professor Sam McConkey about the reality of our situation.

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/covid-19-circuit-break-5225075-Oct2020/

He says a lot without saying much doesn't he? Let people in to some of the detail Sam, more people may buy in to what you are selling.

blowitupref · 06-10-2020 03:10PM

TexasTornado wrote: »

Fantastic piece in the Journal from professor Sam McConkey about the reality of our situation.

https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/covid-19-circuit-break-5225075-Oct2020/

Headline and knowing who the view was from was enough to say no thank you to that link. TV and print media can surely get the opinion from some new people on the topic instead of wheeling out the same few so called experts.

US2 · 06-10-2020 03:11PM

Strange world when Donald appears to sound sensible

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313449844413992961?s=19

is_that_so · 06-10-2020 03:11PM

Roots 2020 wrote: »

That news is 3 days old.

And yet it's on the RTE feed at 14.23 this afternoon.

froog · 06-10-2020 03:12PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It sure is. It's one of those rare metrics where an increase in positivity is actually negative.

long shot, but could less testing/higher positivity be due to the initial schools panic wearing off - i.e. parents not sending kids for a test with every sniffle or headache?

political analyst · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

wes wrote: »

The fact remains that our health care capacity is severely limited.

That's the whole point of the plan published by the HSE a fortnight ago.

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0924/1167126-winter-plan/

landofthetree · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

stockshares wrote: »

I wonder if this a better long term option than doing deals with Private Hospitals like earlier in the year.

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1313480042400428032?s=19

The German health system is the way to go. A good mixture of government run hospitals and private hospitals.

Merely 28% of the roughly 1,950 hospitals that participate in Germany’s universal health system are owned by the government. 37% are private for profit hospitals that treat patients covered by the public health insurances and receive the same amount of reimbursement per case as the public ones or the 34% that are operated by churches and other charities

By of course we could never do this.

Even Thatcher couldn't do it in the UK. So now tens of thousands die every year in the UK because nobody can touch the NHS.

Oranage2 · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

Benimar wrote: »

516 positive swabs on 11,646 tests - 4.43% positivity

OMG

It just skipped over 3 and heading towards 5.0%

Crazy, either they weren't targeting properly last week or else it's in the communities much more than we know

ACitizenErased · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313482038247395328?s=20

froog · 06-10-2020 03:13PM

US2 wrote: »

Strange world when Donald appears to sound sensible

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313449844413992961?s=19

we've "learned to live" with flu with an annual vaccine.

seamus · 06-10-2020 03:14PM

US2 wrote: »

Strange world when Donald appears to sound sensible

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313449844413992961?s=19

Um. So "sometimes" over 100,000 people a year die from the 'flu, yet 200,000 died from COVID in six months, and somehow that's the same?

political analyst · 06-10-2020 03:14PM

landofthetree wrote: »

The German health system is the way to go. A good mixture of government run hospitals and private hospitals.

By of course we could never do this.

Even Thatcher couldn't do it in the UK. So now tens of thousands die every year in the UK because nobody can touch the NHS.

I assumed the UK was way ahead of the Republic in terms of healthcare because of the creation of the NHS.

seamus · 06-10-2020 03:15PM

froog wrote: »

long shot, but could less testing/higher positivity be due to the initial schools panic wearing off - i.e. parents not sending kids for a test with every sniffle or headache?

Yes, but we would expect a drop in referrals/swabs then.

froog · 06-10-2020 03:15PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313482038247395328?s=20

wow that's pretty huge coming from WHO. they are usually pretty cautious and careful to tempter expectations.

landofthetree · 06-10-2020 03:15PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Doubt they'd want to sell

Within a few months these private hospitals would be just as poorly run as the public ones.

is_that_so · 06-10-2020 03:15PM

landofthetree wrote: »

The German health system is the way to go. A good mixture of government run hospitals and private hospitals.

By of course we could never do this.

We could but people will not pay the overall taxes required, we won't even pay for water!

wes · 06-10-2020 03:16PM

political analyst wrote: »

That's the whole point of the plan published by the HSE a fortnight ago.

https://www.rte.ie/news/health/2020/0924/1167126-winter-plan/

Well lets see if they manage to actually pull it off....

is_that_so · 06-10-2020 03:16PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

OMG

It just skipped over 3 and heading towards 5.0%

Crazy, either they weren't targeting properly last week or else it's in the communities much more than we know

Deep breath! The world is not ending!

landofthetree · 06-10-2020 03:17PM

froog wrote: »

wow that's pretty huge coming from WHO. they are usually pretty cautious and careful to tempter expectations.

They have done a lot of scaremongering to secure funding.

Of course our government gave them more money to appear to be the good guys after Trump called them out.

Oranage2 · 06-10-2020 03:17PM

froog wrote: »

long shot, but could less testing/higher positivity be due to the initial schools panic wearing off - i.e. parents not sending kids for a test with every sniffle or headache?

Definitely could be, we know they stopped testing the factories so they'd have enough capacity to test the schools.

They wanted to back to school plan not to fail so much that other areas were neglected and now we're seeing higher cases everywhere else.

political analyst · 06-10-2020 03:17PM

is_that_so wrote: »

We could but people will not pay the overall taxes required, we won't even pay for water!

I'm sure that most of the clerical workers in the HSE also want the health service to be improved. So why would their union, Impact, stand in the way of improvement?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 06-10-2020 03:17PM

is_that_so wrote: »

And yet it's on the RTE feed at 14.23 this afternoon.

It was updated. Yesterdays version was at least 18 people iirc.

Poorside · 06-10-2020 03:18PM

US2 wrote: »

Strange world when Donald appears to sound sensible

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1313449844413992961?s=19

Far less lethal, has he missed the 215,000 that have died in 7 months in the states?

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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