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06-10-2020 10:46am #1

Must be the single most annoying thing about using the internet lately. Every single website and their odd variation of asking you to accept cookies.. or, also trying to wedge in 'can we send you notifications', as if you'd have any interest.

Why can it not be assumed that there are certain cookies website require, and people will have no issue with this. If it's anything outside of a set parameter that the website are looking for, then they have to ask.

(I won't even start on Google's consistent pestering you to sign in..)

Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?

eviltwin · 06-10-2020 10:47am

There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.

pgj2015 · 06-10-2020 10:52am

eviltwin wrote: »

There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.

That would make a good T shirt.

Randle P. McMurphy · 06-10-2020 11:17am

Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.

Smiles35 · 06-10-2020 11:23am

eviltwin wrote: »

There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.

That's not worth trying as every website would have to agree to it. I did try it myself by the way. Did nothing.

I'm just after copping on that I will have to instal one of those warnings on a website I now run. Never even thought of it.

06-10-2020 12:22pm

Smiles35 wrote: »

I'm just after copping on that I will have to instal one of those warnings on a website I now run. Never even thought of it.

You absolute bastard! Putting us innocent internet users at risk of cookies we didn't even agree in advance to?! :mad: DIDN'T EVEN AGREE TO!!

biko · 06-10-2020 1:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?

It's an EU requirement for websites.

We could leave EU I suppose?

Ubbquittious · 06-10-2020 1:19pm

You'd think websites would try to get by without cookies but no, they all insist on using a great multitude of them.

mikhail · 06-10-2020 2:04pm

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.

Why would you blame privacy campaigners for ****ty laws? Blame the legislators who made a broken privacy law that doesn't stop facebook from basically tracking your every move and selling the data, while simultaneously leaving companies hide behind the magical GDPR whenever it suits them.

B.A._Baracus · 06-10-2020 2:56pm

Blame GDPR.

Lmao_Man · 06-10-2020 2:59pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Blame GDPR.

It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.

charlietheminxx · 06-10-2020 3:02pm

Lmao_Man wrote: »

It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.

That's not quite right, cookie notice requirements have recently been updated in line with GDPR and come into force this week - that's why there are more complex pop-up banners everywhere. They're a pain.

Xtrail14 · 06-10-2020 3:03pm

Take it up the bottom

iamstop · 06-10-2020 3:05pm

Blame it on the boogie.

1990sman · 06-10-2020 3:05pm

is there a Cookie Conspiracy?

markfinn · 06-10-2020 3:07pm

Keep in mind that the current state of play is "malicious compliance" with the letter of the law.
Basically advertising scum making online experience worse for everyone in hopes that it'll annoy enough people into pressuring for revocation of laws, thereby allowing the bastards to make your phone listen for noises made by adverts in your browser so they can then permanently associate that browser with you.

The proper implementation of the requirements is to just not include cookies which are not necessary for the website. If the only cookies on the site are required for the users desired interactions with the website then no notice need be shown.

TLDR: Those notices and the nonsense behind them is deliberately annoying to try and force deregulation and allow eradication of online privacy by the advertisers.

B.A._Baracus · 06-10-2020 5:32pm

Lmao_Man wrote: »

It’s nothing got to do with GDPR. GDPR was years after the cookie laws.

Are you sure there mate?

I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

Here's a hint: may 2018.

JohnnyFlash · 06-10-2020 5:36pm

It's even more annoying than videos autoplaying with audio, and those Google AMP pages that bring you to a cached version of the website you actually want to visit.

Web designers should be rounded up and shot. We can start again.

markfinn · 06-10-2020 6:39pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

It's even more annoying than videos autoplaying with audio, and those Google AMP pages that bring you to a cached version of the website you actually want to visit.

Web designers should be rounded up and shot. We can start again.

If you shoot the web designers the advertisers will just find new (and worse) ones.

Shoot all advertisers. On sight.
If they were real people they'd have done it themselves when they realised they were advertisers.

Yes, that does include anyone claiming to be in "marketing".

COVID · 06-10-2020 6:44pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Blame GDPR.

I blame the Stasi in the old GDR.

MOH · 06-10-2020 6:48pm

Randle P. McMurphy wrote: »

Don't blame the websites. Blame the ****tards who campaigned to get the privacy laws changed. Now you can't go anywhere on the web without this bs. Privacy this...privacy that..blah blah blah. The cnuts ruined it for everyone.

No, blame the scumbag advertisers who turned the internet into a race to the bottom and click-whoring, along with all the tracking that goes with that.

Simpler solution would just be ban all advertising and move on.

riclad · 06-10-2020 6:59pm

Most websites rely on ads to pay the bill,s ,so they want to put a cookie on
your pc to remember user x visited this website.

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/61416?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid&hl=en

you can delete cookies and delete your browsing history.
Websites need to be able to say we had x no of users visiting our website today, or this week, to be able to set a rate for serving ads.
You can go to browser settings and switch off video,animation, and graphics ,
and websites will just show up as text and links .
the problem is the politicans who make the laws are not tech experts .
They just think we need more privacy options for users.https://proprivacy.com/ruinmysearchhistory/how-to-block-cookies

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/3/21420176/apple-ios-14-tracking-permission-rule-developers-delay

I dont see any easy solution to this problem as most websites rely on ads to survive,
i,m not going to pay a fee or a subscription to view a website if i only read a few articles
on some news website every week.
i don,t think theres any chance of the eu cancelling or changing the gdpr rule no matter what advertisers or tech companys say.

bazz26 · 06-10-2020 10:49pm

cookies!

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 06-10-2020 11:02pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Are you sure there mate?

I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

Here's a hint: may 2018.

Cookie laws preceded GDPR by many years, GDPR required consent in the absence of any other legal basis though.

smellyoldboot · 06-10-2020 11:06pm

Your mother accepts cookies.

For blowjobs.

Atlantic Dawn · 06-10-2020 11:06pm

There should be a single question when you turn on your computer...
Do you have a fooking clue in general...Yes/No.

Sacrolyte · 06-10-2020 11:40pm

I like cookies

B.A._Baracus · 07-10-2020 12:45am

Roger Immense Halogen wrote: »

Cookie laws preceded GDPR by many years, GDPR required consent in the absence of any other legal basis though.

Before the GDPR thing in 2018 or let's just call it before "cookie overload" it was the wild west with cookies. Companies can get massive fined now for taking the piss.

But if anyone thinks they are bad now. Give it another month / two.

07-10-2020 12:48am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Must be the single most annoying thing about using the internet lately. Every single website and their odd variation of asking you to accept cookies.. or, also trying to wedge in 'can we send you notifications', as if you'd have any interest.

Why can it not be assumed that there are certain cookies website require, and people will have no issue with this. If it's anything outside of a set parameter that the website are looking for, then they have to ask.

(I won't even start on Google's consistent pestering you to sign in..)

Is there a way around these constant pop-ups. Is there anybody out there doing anything in relation to this?

Comes were granted for basic stuff survival l automatically. Then date protection within the eu decided it was a breach. Pain in the arse!

And as for the notifications, why? In the history of the internet has anyone ever decided that getting popups while not even online from a random website is s great idea?

bobbyy gee · 07-10-2020 12:51am

Its European data protectuon

Download a program that deletes ads on your browsers

07-10-2020 12:52am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Are you sure there mate?

I mean if you bothered to Google before you posted that...

Here's a hint: may 2018.

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Before the GDPR thing in 2018 or let's just call it before "cookie overload" it was the wild west with cookies. Companies can get massive fined now for taking the piss.

But if anyone thinks they are bad now. Give it another month / two.

How old are you? I'm not being insulting but you clearly don't recall the change when cookies had to be agreed to which was easily way before 2018. It was all the way back in 2009 with the EU Directive 2009/136/EC.

Here's some good reading on it;
https://baekdal.com/thoughts/the-original-cookie-specification-from-1997-was-gdpr-compliant/

Maybe take your own advise and Google before posting.

Personally I miss the days when basic cookies were presumed and as long as you didn't act the idiot, you were fine.

I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.

Strumms · 07-10-2020 2:16am

smellyoldboot wrote: »

Your mother accepts cookies.

For blowjobs.

Or, the other way around.

MOH · 07-10-2020 6:56am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.

Why would you possibly think cookie regulation would protect you from any of those things?

gman127 · 07-10-2020 8:11am

eviltwin wrote: »

There's an add on to Google you can get: I don't care about cookies I think its called.

I use this and it works great!

I forget about it until I use a device without it installed and the cookies start bugging me again

B.A._Baracus · 07-10-2020 8:14am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

How old are you? I'm not being insulting but you clearly don't recall the change when cookies had to be agreed to which was easily way before 2018. It was all the way back in 2009 with the EU Directive 2009/136/EC.

Here's some good reading on it;
https://baekdal.com/thoughts/the-original-cookie-specification-from-1997-was-gdpr-compliant/

Maybe take your own advise and Google before posting.

Personally I miss the days when basic cookies were presumed and as long as you didn't act the idiot, you were fine.

I mean, has any of this prevented old timers getting spam, viruses, phishing, popups, notifications and hijacked? Not judging by my parents and in laws laptops it hasn't.

I don't need to Google. There's a why for that.
Maybe we're on a different page or your splitting heirs.

This thread is about the long annoying cookie messages WHICH became standard two years ago. Again, you should be the one to Google.

You're acting like people are saying a cookie didn't exist before as a base for your argument.....

El Tarangu · 07-10-2020 9:01am

MOH wrote: »

No, blame the scumbag advertisers who turned the internet into a race to the bottom and click-whoring, along with all the tracking that goes with that.

Simpler solution would just be ban all advertising and move on.

This seems a bit simplistic; would you prefer to pay a monthly fee to use boards.ie?

ILoveYourVibes · 07-10-2020 9:11am

YA where are my biscuits already!?

mikhail · 07-10-2020 10:58am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

And as for the notifications, why? In the history of the internet has anyone ever decided that getting popups while not even online from a random website is s great idea?

This is worth spending a couple of minutes doing: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-notifications-chrome-firefox-safari/

mikhail · 07-10-2020 11:00am

El Tarangu wrote: »

This seems a bit simplistic; would you prefer to pay a monthly fee to use boards.ie?

You do anyway; it's just hidden. Advertising costs are included in everything you spend money on.

Quantum Erasure · 07-10-2020 11:15am

Cookie dough dynamo

El Tarangu · 07-10-2020 11:17am

mikhail wrote: »

You do anyway; it's just hidden. Advertising costs are included in everything you spend money on.

I know; the point I am making is that currently, for most websites, you can access them for "free" because they are paid for through advertising. If online advertising were banned, as another poster suggested, websites would have to be paid for other means, possibly through monthly subscription.

07-10-2020 12:03pm

MOH wrote: »

Why would you possibly think cookie regulation would protect you from any of those things?

Gdpr I meant and it's purpose was to protect personal data. People that pay attention to such things already protect their personal data.

07-10-2020 12:05pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I don't need to Google. There's a why for that.
Maybe we're on a different page or your splitting heirs.

This thread is about the long annoying cookie messages WHICH became standard two years ago. Again, you should be the one to Google.

You're acting like people are saying a cookie didn't exist before as a base for your argument.....

I literally specified the exact eu directive that resulted in cookie popup agreements. It's from 2009 and is informally called 'the cookie law'.

07-10-2020 12:12pm

mikhail wrote: »

This is worth spending a couple of minutes doing: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/disable-notifications-chrome-firefox-safari/

I'm not sure why you sent that. I'm aware of how to disable them

I was merely Making a point about how anyone would willingly and knowingly agree to something so annoying

B.A._Baracus · 07-10-2020 12:15pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I literally specified the exact eu directive that resulted in cookie popup agreements. It's from 2009 and is informally called 'the cookie law'.

https://digitalstrategy.ie/cookie-controller-contact/?utm_medium=adwords&utm_campaign=&utm_source=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9YPNwrqi7AIVh7TtCh27bQE3EAAYAiAAEgI8TfD_BwE

https://www.cookiebot.com/en/cookie-consent/

Guess that big deal in 2018 wasn't nothing. Doesn't exist. All 2009.

07-10-2020 3:29pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

https://digitalstrategy.ie/cookie-controller-contact/?utm_medium=adwords&utm_campaign=&utm_source=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9YPNwrqi7AIVh7TtCh27bQE3EAAYAiAAEgI8TfD_BwE

https://www.cookiebot.com/en/cookie-consent/

Guess that big deal in 2018 wasn't nothing. Doesn't exist. All 2009.

Not a single person has claimed that the 2018 act didnt exist. We have both stated that cookies were already dealt with in 2009.

I dunno if you realise how time works or indeed laws but 2009 was before 2018

Necro · 07-10-2020 4:33pm

Mod:

BA and Niner, cut out the sniping at each other. If you can't post in a civil fashion don't post here.

Muahahaha · 07-10-2020 6:27pm

Is it just me or are others getting asked to accept cookies when you go to the same website each and every time? I cant understand why it doesnt know that you've already accepted them before multiple times.

And does Firefox have an extension to accept them automatically? Its getting really frustrating have to accept them every single time.

silver2020 · 07-10-2020 6:31pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

That would make a good T shirt.

even better "Yes to All Cookies"

I'll send hairy baby an email - we'll share commission

07-10-2020 6:36pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

Is it just me or are others getting asked to accept cookies when you go to the same website each and every time? I cant understand why it doesnt know that you've already accepted them before multiple times.

And does Firefox have an extension to accept them automatically? Its getting really frustrating have to accept them every single time.

Do you have a cleaner or auto delete setup for cookies? That shouldnt be happening

Muahahaha · 07-10-2020 7:31pm

Dont think so or at least not knowingly, I must check the settings. I seem to be asked over and over again to accept cookies on a good few sites.

Ive clicked into the cookies of sites before and some of them are asking for you to be tracked by over 300 other websites. Its madness, we're probably all being tracked by over 100,000 sites at this stage

Accept cookies. Accept cookies. Accept cookies.

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