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Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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  • #1382
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    GooglePlus wrote: »
    So we haven't even seen the recent surge in cases affect hospital figures yet and you can see there isn't much wiggle room.

    we will almost certainly reach normal capacity in two or three weeks no matter what restrictions are put into place tonight. then we are into hospital surge plans and crossing fingers no other emergency happens.


  • #1383
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The 5 stage plan isn't fit for purpose. The main goal is protecting life, jobs and businesses.
    The problem I have with it is, there is little difference between 4 and 5 in terms of the economy, all non-essential business is shut in both. So IMO level 3 does not go far enough in terms of non-economic restrictions, before we have to press the nuclear button for 4 and 5.


  • #1384
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    rob316 wrote: »
    The 5 stage plan isn't fit for purpose. The main goal is protecting life, jobs and businesses.
    The problem I have with it is, there is little difference between 4 and 5 in terms of the economy, all non-essential business is shut in both. So IMO level 3 does not go far enough in terms of non-economic restrictions, before we have to press the nuclear button for 4 and 5.

    Level 3 puts so many people out of work. Im out of work again, after being out of work for 6 months already. Now im supposed to live on 300 euro. How can we live like this?


  • #1385
    [Deleted User]
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    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Why is Dublin levelling off if it's schools? That makes zero sense. Are schools in Dublin different?

    there's a thread on here about Covid in schools, have a gander because the people on it are parents and it seems like there's a lot going on that's not been reported.

    If the schools close, this would be a disaster, they were Leo's words.
    This may be why it's been hushed up

    below makes for odd reading
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058119207&page=7


  • #1386
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    I see thousands of bozos are organizing a "No Mask" march in Grafton Street at the weekend.
    Seriously? These idiots should be up for manslaughter for superspreading the virus.

    Needs to be immediately banned from going ahead and if it still does then harsh penalties should be imposed on these fcukwits.


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  • #1387
    7aubzxk43m2sni
    Closed Accounts Posts: 636 ✭✭✭7aubzxk43m2sni


    My sister is in school today. She told her year head she was feeling sick and wanted to go home. She is displaying some symptoms. (So am I since this morning- hoping to get tested soon). The year head rang my mother and said "I don't want kids missing too much school, so I'd prefer to keep her in for her next two classes - English and Maths. She can go home after that because it's only religion, but she should come back in to school in the afternoon because she has biology class.

    Unbelievable


  • #1388
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hurrache wrote: »
    He didn't overstep any mark for gods sake, they made a recommendation, which is their purpose.

    They made a recommendation that contradicted one from only 72 hours previously with no change in underlying trends in the intervening time, apart from the usual low discharge numbers over the weekend. They may as well have said "Tony felt it in his waters" as opposed to the letter that was sent


  • #1389
    Roger the cabin boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Roger the cabin boy


    Hope Helpless Dungeon wrote: »
    My sister is in school today. She told her year head she was feeling sick and wanted to go home. She is displaying some symptoms. (So am I since this morning- hoping to get tested soon). The year head rang my mother and said "I don't want kids missing too much school, so I'd prefer to keep her in for her next two classes - English and Maths. She can go home after that because it's only religion, but she should come back in to school in the afternoon because she has biology class.

    Unbelievable

    No, not at all.


  • #1390
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    big syke wrote: »
    Wrong.

    No they cant.

    Professional, elite, inter county and senior club champo only

    OK but you are wrong yourself when you stated that no matches can go ahead at level 3 even behind closed doors. Clearly they can.


  • #1391
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    polesheep wrote: »
    Could anyone blame Doctor Martin Feeley if he called for the resignations of the HSE members of NPHET? Doctor Martin Feeley was forced to resign for speaking contrary to the HSE. Therefore, without hesitation, the HSE should be requesting the resignation of those members of NPHET employed by the HSE, for going against the HSE. Once Paul Reid denied what they said, they should have been gone. The same standards should apply to all.


    Therefore, without hesitation we the people should be requesting the resignation of the members of the previous government who blindly followed the advice of Nphet back in March.


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  • #1392
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,689 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    bush wrote: »
    Level 3 puts so many people out of work. Im out of work again, after being out of work for 6 months already. Now im supposed to live on 300 euro. How can we live like this?

    I'm sorry to hear that but my point was Level 3 should have heavy enforcement. You heard Leo last night, he doesn't we can afford another lockdown, its not under consideration. Level 4 dumps the entire retail, construction, beauty and other non essential industries on PUP. We have to do everything to avoid it.


  • #1393
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Unless you live in a cave I don't need to.

    Name a European country with harsher restrictions?


  • #1394
    TexasTornado
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭TexasTornado


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    I see thousands of bozos are organizing a "No Mask" march in Grafton Street at the weekend.
    Seriously? These idiots should be up for manslaughter for superspreading the virus.

    Will be quiet on the relaxation of restrictions thread at the weekend so.


  • #1395
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Roger the cabin boy wrote: »
    No, not at all.

    Hands up anyone that went home sick from school and came back in the same day?


  • #1396
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    US2 wrote: »
    Name a European country with harsher restrictions?

    Amazing that the Netherlands haven't ramped up restrictions. Look at that new daily cases graph!!

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/


  • #1397
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Dr. Feeley should be the CMO...

    The briefings would be 300% longer


  • #1398
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,287 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Blondini wrote: »
    150 in hospital
    24 in ICU

    Not much change since yesterday so far which is good.

    I know this is going to come across as here say but I have a friend who works as an ICU nurse and according to him, some hospitals are putting patients into ICU beds not necessarily because they need ICU beds but to keep them away from the general ward beds as that would mean having to close off an entire ward.


  • #1399
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,672 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I'm actually surprised we haven't had a few resignations this morning.

    Maybe NPHET itself was split on the letter?


  • #1400
    [Deleted User]
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1313424234413260800?s=19

    Think this is going under the radar and very much goes against the idea we can just shut everything down and keep borrowing.


  • #1401
    Lantern Jaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Lantern Jaw


    big syke wrote: »
    Wrong.

    No they cant.

    Professional, elite, inter county and senior club champo only

    Up until yesterday any level of Gaa above Minor was going ahead.


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  • #1402
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    rusty cole wrote: »
    there's a thread on here about Covid in schools, have a gander because the people on it are parents and it seems like there's a lot going on that's not been reported.

    If the schools close, this would be a disaster, they were Leo's words.
    This may be why it's been hushed up

    below makes for odd reading
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058119207&page=7

    They are not hiding cases. If that is the implication. The numbers in Dublin and around counties are published daily.

    Whatever is going on the schools are open all over the country. If schools were the driver all counties would be experiencing the same growth but it's not the case. Dublin has completely levelled off so schools are not driving growth there. Schools are an easy target unfortunately.

    Why did the upswing in cases start in early August?


  • #1403
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I'm actually surprised we haven't had a few resignations this morning.

    Maybe NPHET itself was split on the letter?

    How many times have well paid senior civil servants ever resigned?


  • #1404
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I'm actually surprised we haven't had a few resignations this morning.

    Maybe NPHET itself was split on the letter?
    It sounds like the NPHET wasn't surprised by the outcome or Varadkar's attack on them.

    Eamon Ryan has described the meeting yesterday as involving "robust" discussion between Varadkar and the NPHET.

    Which is political speak for a lot of tense questions and raised voices.


  • #1405
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,971 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Stormyteacup wrote:
    Thinking you’re doing your best for society by demanding low risk population be locked up is misguided.
    It's the best strategy until we know enough about the virus to be able to manage things successfully.


  • #1406
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    AdamD wrote: »
    Think this is going under the radar and very much goes against the idea we can just shut everything down and keep borrowing.

    there is no pan-european response/plan/strategy though so no idea how the EU could turn off the money tap for a country doing what they felt was best. a bit disingenuous from the government there.


  • #1407
    Deshawn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 192 ✭✭Deshawn


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's the best strategy until we know enough about the virus to be able to manage things successfully.

    1/3 of the population are vulnerable


  • #1408
    US2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Amazing that the Netherlands haven't ramped up restrictions. Look at that new daily cases graph!!

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

    What's that got to do with the question repeatedly asked to the poster I quoted? Ireland has the harshest restrictions not just in Europe but the whole world, as we have all summer!


  • #1409
    big syke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 906 ✭✭✭big syke


    Lantern Jaw wrote: »
    Up until yesterday any level of Gaa above Minor was going ahead.

    Yes senior teams as in the age group not senior level.

    So for example adult junior G championship games could be played until GAA made their decision to halt all games.


  • #1410
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Deshawn wrote: »
    Amazing that the Netherlands haven't ramped up restrictions. Look at that new daily cases graph!!

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/netherlands/

    Look at the death rate.

    Tiny compared to the first wave. Let's hope it last.


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  • #1411
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,727 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    AdamD wrote: »
    Think this is going under the radar and very much goes against the idea we can just shut everything down and keep borrowing.

    Surely government needs to be borrowing now in case it ever needs to happen so?


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