Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Smegging hell · 04-10-2020 08:24PM

Just going to leave this here. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312835055249772550

manniot2 · 04-10-2020 08:25PM

The lord save us we are finished.

bloopy · 04-10-2020 08:31PM

Smegging hell wrote: »

Just going to leave this here. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312835055249772550

Holy f**k!

3xh · 04-10-2020 08:32PM

That recommendation letter, to move to Stage 5, from NPHET to the Minister of Health should be published on the gov.ie website soon. It’ll be an interesting read when it’s up.

But something about it all strikes me as a case of make it bad so when it isn’t, people breathe a sigh of relief.

PTH2009 · 04-10-2020 08:33PM

Smegging hell wrote: »

Just going to leave this here. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312835055249772550

This is scarry I mean scarry, wtf is going on

Members of the dail need to grow a pair of balls and defy this advice. Economic purposes for mental health to name a few

facehugger99 · 04-10-2020 08:35PM

In my view NPHET represent a clear and present danger to this country.

Extreme measures are required.

Democracy is at stake here.

Captain_Crash · 04-10-2020 08:35PM

Smegging hell wrote: »

Just going to leave this here. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312835055249772550

Surely a typo??

road_high · 04-10-2020 08:37PM

3xh wrote: »

That recommendation letter, to move to Stage 5, from NPHET to the Minister of Health should be published on the gov.ie website soon. It’ll be an interesting read when it’s up.

But something about it all strikes me as a case of make it bad so when it isn’t, people breathe a sigh of relief.

Well given their antecedence there’s little to suggest these absolute idiots will not throw us all over the cliff yet again- I would t breathe any sigh of relief as if they don’t do it this week they’d do it next week and so on. I’ve zero faith in the running of their country or decision making- it’s an absolute fcucking shambles.

road_high · 04-10-2020 08:39PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

In my view NPHET represent a clear and present danger to this country.

Extreme measures are required.

Democracy is at stake here.

Absolutely- the few people publicly protesting were smeared and sneered at but what they’re saying has been true and generally come to pass.
If this comes in I’m absolutely joining the anti lockdown protests- moderate FG voter here so I’m no anarchist but I e had enough of it now

average_runner · 04-10-2020 08:39PM

road_high wrote: »

Well given their antecedence there’s little to suggest these absolute idiots will not throw us all over the cliff yet again- I would t breathe any sigh of relief as if they don’t do it this week they’d do it next week and so on. I’ve zero faith in the running of their country or decision making- it’s an absolute fcucking shambles.

While we failed to contain it, level 5 is OTT.
At least wait till nov and give the people a chance to turn it around

CruelSummer · 04-10-2020 08:40PM

So there we have it, NPHET & Holohan’s only solution - lock us up. How on earth are thousands of businesses going to pay rent,‘mortgage breaks have also ended with banks. How many jobs will be lost permanently by this. Where is the overall strategy, reopen and lockdown again? Or pursue zero Covid with an open border to the North, high FDI and multinationals that pay many bills here, EU members...and never achieve it?
Goodbye aviation industry, hospitality industry, small-medium businesses, heck any business at all.
Children’s education down the toilet and to be left sitting at home while an increasingly stressed parent tries to work & keep them occupied / educate. And all of this with days getting darker, so no gyms to keep healthy in.
At what point are people going to stand up and tell NPHET and the HSE to get their house in order- raise the pay + conditions of its staff so as to make it more attractive to work there. The fact that our health system is so useless despite 6/7 months of preparation time given for this winter is the real issue here.

Real Donald Trump · 04-10-2020 08:40PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

In my view NPHET represent a clear and present danger to this country.

Extreme measures are required.

Democracy is at stake here.

Indeed they do. If they pull this stunt there needs to be mass protests to put end to this nonsense.

funnydoggy · 04-10-2020 08:41PM

Level 5, they can f*ck off.

Billy Ocean · 04-10-2020 08:41PM

Weather its extreme or the current status is too relaxed moving 24 counties from level 2 to 5 is a bit mad to say the least...

Something is seriously out of kilter

Assetbacked · 04-10-2020 08:42PM

Smegging hell wrote: »

Just going to leave this here. https://twitter.com/MichealLehane/status/1312835055249772550

Comical. The lunatics are running the asylum. NPHET consisting of the bloated administrative elements of the health sector which are the symptom of our sh1t health service, now also destroying the country the way they run the health service.

Just fcuk off. It isn't even as harmful as the flu and it is clear from the data it isn't. Wtf is actually going on here.

road_high · 04-10-2020 08:42PM

I despised Tony Holohan from the start- he’s an absolute knob end. Now “he’s back” this arrogant ego maniac wants to stamp his “authority” back on us all. Well fcuk off, I never voted for you nor did anyone else

copeyhagen · 04-10-2020 08:44PM

most of the protests were people sprouting conspiracy nonsense ,thats why they havent had any credibility.

now though, i think the people have had enough...

facehugger99 · 04-10-2020 08:44PM

0.0029% of the population hospitalised 'with' Covid, not 'because' of Covid and they're recommending Level 5 restrictions.

This is a fcuking outrage and someone in Government needs to grow a pair of balls.

funnydoggy · 04-10-2020 08:45PM

road_high wrote: »

I despised Tony Holohan from the start- he’s an absolute knob end. Now “he’s back” this arrogant ego maniac wants to stamp his “authority” back on us all. Well fcuk off, I never voted for you nor did anyone else

So strange seeing people delighted he's back. Regardless of his personal situation (which I wish him the best in), he's no saint. People worshipping him but very quick to forget the cervical check scandal.

04-10-2020 08:47PM

We go to level 5 for what 3 weeks a month? Pointless, once it's lifted people go back to doing the same stuff that got us to these numbers in the first place and we're back to square one again.

Kermit.de.frog · 04-10-2020 08:47PM

While I wouldn't go quite to level 5 the situation requires action that is some way beyond the present. Level 4 with a few bells and whistles attached to target problem areas - outdoor drinking, public gatherings for example.

There needs to be increased enforcement as well.

That may be enough to put the break on spread to the extent level 5 would not be needed.

No one wants another full lockdown but we are where we are.

Ironically this could be the last opportunity to save Christmas period. It will be abnormal this year but the more supressed the virus is the more normal it will be.

hynesie08 · 04-10-2020 08:47PM

I could care less about NPHET, they have to have a blinkered view of things.

If the government are spineless enough to enforce this, it would be the death of ireland as we know it.....

_Kaiser_ · 04-10-2020 08:48PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

So strange seeing people delighted he's back. Regardless of his personal situation (which I wish him the best in), he's no saint. People worshipping him but very quick to forget the cervical check scandal.

It's the same as wishing for Leo back when all he did was create this situation by putting NPHET defacto in charge in the first place - but he made some good at speeches and quoted some movies so that's the main thing :rolleyes:

In a similar vein, he and his party are precisely why we have this weak lame duck Government now, but people have forgotten that too it seems.

Assetbacked · 04-10-2020 08:50PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

So strange seeing people delighted he's back. Regardless of his personal situation (which I wish him the best in), he's no saint. People worshipping him but very quick to forget the cervical check scandal.

Masochistic misery merchants are happy to have him back.

Tenzor07 · 04-10-2020 08:50PM

Won't be level 5 for another 3 weeks, Holohan will pull the "Circuit breaker" at the school mid-term telling us it will be for 3 weeks only, then back to Level 4 nationally until the new year....

Coybig_ · 04-10-2020 08:58PM

If they move us to Level 5 I'll be protesting anyway, first time in my life I'll have taken to the streets to protest anything. Trying their best to kill the country.

04-10-2020 08:59PM

snowcat wrote: »

Ireland had zero Covid then as well. Not so long ago we had a few cases here and there. NZ are an Island group in the middle of nowhere and have shut their borders. They have unique advantages. We can not do that and they can not do that for ever. It will hit the islands at some stage. It is only a matter of time.

We can shut our border we just need someone in charge with the balls to do it. If I was running this county we would be like NZ, fully open internally with closed borders and minimal to zero cases.

VonLuck · 04-10-2020 09:01PM

Does anyone know where construction work stops in the various levels? Level 4 says "Only essential or other designated workers should go to work." and Level 5 says "Work from home unless it is for working in health, social care or other essential service and cannot be done from home."Is construction now considered a designated or essential service?

Kermit.de.frog · 04-10-2020 09:01PM

Coybig_ wrote: »

If they move us to Level 5 I'll be protesting anyway, first time in my life I'll have taken to the streets to protest anything. Trying their best to kill the country.

Every country in Europe is heading toward tough national lock downs.

This is just the reality of the situation i'm afraid.

polesheep · 04-10-2020 09:01PM

funnydoggy wrote: »

So strange seeing people delighted he's back. Regardless of his personal situation (which I wish him the best in), he's no saint. People worshipping him but very quick to forget the cervical check scandal.

And quick to forget that he is currently unable to be objective in his decision making, given that he has a very vulnerable wife. He should be on leave.

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings