Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

04-10-2020 07:21PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

This whole 'people aren't complying' narrative is complete and utter bull****.
It's a ****ing virus, doing what a virus does. It's going to spread whether people comply or not.
How hard is that to get?

Do you believe in that case having restrictions is futile?

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 07:21PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

This whole 'people aren't complying' narrative is complete and utter bull****.
It's a ****ing virus, doing what a virus does. It's going to spread whether people comply or not.
How hard is that to get?

By complying we can at least slow the spread, the numbers are getting high again fast

boggerman1 · 04-10-2020 07:21PM

So we rinse and repeat and lock down again for ****ing what end.to open up again and go tru the same bs all over again

OscarMIlde · 04-10-2020 07:22PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

This whole 'people aren't complying' narrative is complete and utter bull****.
It's a ****ing virus, doing what a virus does. It's going to spread whether people comply or not.
How hard is that to get?

It clearly spreads more if people aren't making an effort to social distance and cut their contacts. Viruses can't replicate on their own, they need a host to infect. A lack of compliance will increase the reproductive rate above 1.

ACitizenErased · 04-10-2020 07:22PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you believe in that case having restrictions is futile?

I think it's going to spread either way, to be honest.

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 07:22PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Well, the powers that be seem to find it acceptable and given how absolutely hyper-cautious they've been throughout this that for now is good enough. On a personal level I've seen how happy kids are to be back at school and one not-COVID event in the family aside, the adults are happy too.

Hyper cautious, come on :pac: we have had a soft lockdown from may (and even march to may was nothing compared to other eu countries) everything has been opened back up.

04-10-2020 07:22PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

It has less chance of spreading if people do as asked of them . Two metres apart , wear masks , stay out of crowded situations , have less people in your home
Big gathering at family occasions is a hot bed for any virus to spread

The problem is, you can't measure how much it would still spread even if everyone complied 100%. Perhaps it's spreading in spite of the restrictions rather than by people flouting them?

ACitizenErased · 04-10-2020 07:22PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

It clearly spreads more if people aren't making an effort to social distance and cut their contacts. Viruses can't replicate on their own, they need a host to infect. A lack of compliance will increase the reproductive rate above 1.

So let's sit on boards and blame everyone except ourselves.

Dayor Knight · 04-10-2020 07:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

This whole 'people aren't complying' narrative is complete and utter bull****.
It's a ****ing virus, doing what a virus does. It's going to spread whether people comply or not.
How hard is that to get?

Ah no, actually. If people follow the guidelines, the virus will have less chance to spread. It can't spread on its own. That's what the public health guidelines are all about.

Zebra3 · 04-10-2020 07:23PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Strange then we have such variability in spreading from country to country... does the virus know it's in Germany and not France?

You think every country has the same level of testing, demographics, and system of counting?

Santy2015 · 04-10-2020 07:23PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

So we rinse and repeat and lock down again for ****ing what end.to open up again and go tru the same bs all over again

And constantly leave the population in limbo indefinitely! We just can’t do that!

04-10-2020 07:23PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

If NPHET recommends to go to level 4 country wide..
I actually fear for everyone! Our country’s economy will be destroyed!
NPHET can’t keep on with this. The amount of people that’ll be left without work once again will be horrendous!!
I actually can’t deal with it again myself. We’ve been treated like bold children.
I’ve adhered to rules about masks not seeing friends, parents, sisters, my nephew and niece not going out to a championship game, no pints for how ever long and they want to take this all away once again. It’s a fûcking disgrace

It is hard but if we do nothing cases will be like NI qickly. Their cases for last 3 days is like 1500 per day here. The virus wants us all to socialise like before. Im angry at the government but this is the path they have set. Liveing with the virus means locking down when numbers increase dramatically and then unlock when they fall.

Icyseanfitz · 04-10-2020 07:23PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

So we rinse and repeat and lock down again for ****ing what end.to open up again and go tru the same bs all over again

Until we have a vaccine id imagine, we can't do a china style lockdown so what other option is there.

JP Liz V1 · 04-10-2020 07:24PM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1312791866350460935

stephenjmcd · 04-10-2020 07:24PM

Fúck this I'm off to the pub

04-10-2020 07:25PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

So we rinse and repeat and lock down again for ****ing what end.to open up again and go tru the same bs all over again

The cavalry is on the horizon apparently says Luke O'Neill.

ACitizenErased · 04-10-2020 07:25PM

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Ah no, actually. If people follow the guidelines, the virus will have less chance to spread. It can't spread on its own. That's what the public health guidelines are all about.

It's a virus, what do you mean it can't spread on its own? It doesn't just disappear when people stop socialising. Very strange way of thinking.

Zebra3 · 04-10-2020 07:25PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The virus wants us all to socialise like before.

The virus has a mind now?

When did this happen?

This is huge news!!!!!

Santy2015 · 04-10-2020 07:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Fúck this I'm off to the pub

And let’s hope this day next week that over 50,000 aren’t out of work again

GooglePlus · 04-10-2020 07:26PM

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Ah no, actually. If people follow the guidelines, the virus will have less chance to spread. It can't spread on its own. That's what the public health guidelines are all about.

With the virus now so prevalent again, our current restrictions will do little, even of adhered to fully by everyone.

04-10-2020 07:27PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

So we rinse and repeat and lock down again for ****ing what end.to open up again and go tru the same bs all over again

There could be an argument, if one or more vaccines show good results this month or next, for another 6 weeks or so with strong restrictions aiming to prevent as much disease as possible and then a gradual reopening similar to the summer with the hope to begin a vaccine roll out during the reopening period. A lot depends on what we learn about vaccine efficacy in the next two months.

440Hertz · 04-10-2020 07:27PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

The virus has a mind now?

When did this happen?

This is huge news!!!!!

Stranger things have evolved! https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-parasite-that-makes-a-rat-love-a-cat-86515093/

Extremely unlikely in a novel virus though as we don’t know it and isn’t very well adapted to us either.

Zebra3 · 04-10-2020 07:28PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There could be an argument, if one or more vaccines show good results this month or next, for another 6 weeks or so with strong restrictions aiming to prevent as much disease as possible and then a gradual reopening similar to the summer with the hope to begin a vaccine roll out during the reopening period. A lot depends on what we learn about vaccine efficacy in the next two months.

The next two months are crucial.

Real Donald Trump · 04-10-2020 07:28PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Until we have a vaccine id imagine, we can't do a china style lockdown so what other option is there.

Let those who are in the vulnerable age bracket, underlying health conditions take it easy for a few months, and let everyone else get on with life. It's the only quick way out of this.

04-10-2020 07:28PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

The virus has a mind now?

When did this happen?

This is huge news!!!!!

It wants to find new hosts with no immunity.

stephenjmcd · 04-10-2020 07:28PM

Santy2015 wrote: »

And let’s hope this day next week that over 50,000 aren’t out of work again

If that happens just wave goodbye to the hospitality sector

GazzaL · 04-10-2020 07:28PM

Michael O'Leary was right. We'd all be better off getting the **** out of the country for a few weeks to get away from NPHET's catastrophic mismanagement. They have made a complete balls of testing and contact tracing.

Gael23 · 04-10-2020 07:29PM

When is the next NPHET meeting?

iamwhoiam · 04-10-2020 07:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It's a virus, what do you mean it can't spread on its own? It doesn't just disappear when people stop socialising. Very strange way of thinking.

A virus needs a host to pass onto . If it meets no hosts within its range of attaching to a new host it cannot spread ?

odyssey06 · 04-10-2020 07:29PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

It's a virus, what do you mean it can't spread on its own? It doesn't just disappear when people stop socialising. Very strange way of thinking.

I don't know what this means tbh.
It doesn't explain the variation in cases between countries, or within the same countries at different stages of restrictions.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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