Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

Say my name · 28-09-2020 07:53PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

How often did you spray your paddocks this year Say?
You hardly sprayed them after every rotation?

I have. Yep.

Well I missed a round with that prolonged wet spell around the end of August and the place nearly crashed altogether.
I had it humming before that.
I'm back somewhat again.

Dinzee Conlee · 28-09-2020 07:57PM

Say my name wrote: »

I have. Yep.

Well I missed a round with that prolonged wet spell around the end of August and the place nearly crashed altogether.
I had it humming before that.
I'm back somewhat again.

What do you mean it nearly crashed?

Did you put out any chemical fertiliser on the same paddocks?

Say my name · 28-09-2020 08:09PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

What do you mean it nearly crashed?

Did you put out any chemical fertiliser on the same paddocks?

Growth nearly stopped.
You see I'm foliar feeding so the plant was used to getting fed through the leaf. With no fertilizer going on the soil.
So for the three months I was foliar spraying this year that's how the plant was getting fed. No bag stuff being spread.
So when the rain came I reckon a lot of the soil stuff was used up long ago and with the foliar stopped there was nothing there.
The only paddocks that were able to reasonably grow during that wet spell and time I stopped the foliar were the ones that had biochar in the slurry spread way before that.
Just before the time out for the fertilizer restrictions I put back on the fert spreader and covered the farm in 18.6.12 and urea. I'm going out now also with burnt lime and the foliar.
So I'm back somewhat again and set up fairly nicely bar the weather not playing ball.

Say my name · 01-10-2020 11:49AM

The soil is getting darker here on farm.
It mightnt look dark in the pictures but for me I'm calling it a win especially when I'm only this year at feeding microbes.
(I should take the pictures out of the Sun and in the rain).

It's nothing out of the ordinary for farmers in the Midlands and nw but it is for me on this mineral soil.

Anyways.

This stuff happens faster than the folk with the PhD's let on.

patsy_mccabe · 01-10-2020 12:15PM

Say my name wrote: »

The soil is getting darker here on farm.
.

You should take a sample and keep it in a flower pot for future reference. Having both sample (before and after a few years) would be a great side by side comparison.

Say my name · 01-10-2020 12:44PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

You should take a sample and keep it in a flower pot for future reference. Having both sample (before and after a few years) would be a great side by side comparison.

I wouldn't have the temperment for that..

Ah I can take a sample from my next door neighbour if I ever want to do a comparison.
Tbh I'm farming on a lot of rented ground so I could be out on my ear out of farming altogether at any stage. So I'm living for the now.

patsy_mccabe · 01-10-2020 08:31PM

Dinzee Conlee · 01-10-2020 08:49PM

Say my name wrote: »

Growth nearly stopped.
You see I'm foliar feeding so the plant was used to getting fed through the leaf. With no fertilizer going on the soil.
So for the three months I was foliar spraying this year that's how the plant was getting fed. No bag stuff being spread.
So when the rain came I reckon a lot of the soil stuff was used up long ago and with the foliar stopped there was nothing there.
The only paddocks that were able to reasonably grow during that wet spell and time I stopped the foliar were the ones that had biochar in the slurry spread way before that.
Just before the time out for the fertilizer restrictions I put back on the fert spreader and covered the farm in 18.6.12 and urea. I'm going out now also with burnt lime and the foliar.
So I'm back somewhat again and set up fairly nicely bar the weather not playing ball.

I was thinking about this...

I thought the idea was to feed the soil and not the plant... The plant then goes to the soil for its nutrients, and it forms a more symbiotic relationship with the various bugs in the soil?
If you are feeding the plant, it won’t go to the soil for it’s nutrients it’ll continue to expect them from the foliar spray? This means the plant won’t attract the same level of bugs, and so the soil will be poorer, bug wise...
I am sure someone with more knowledge could explain that much better - and I might be wrong in my thinking too...

So, ultimately, are you just replacing one fertiliser with another?
I am not sure what the benefit is, if you are saying growth crashes when the grass doesn’t get its hit of foliar spray?

keepalive213 · 01-10-2020 09:26PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Not normal Fox behaviour? Must have been sick

Say my name · 01-10-2020 10:02PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I was thinking about this...

I thought the idea was to feed the soil and not the plant... The plant then goes to the soil for its nutrients, and it forms a more symbiotic relationship with the various bugs in the soil?
If you are feeding the plant, it won’t go to the soil for it’s nutrients it’ll continue to expect them from the foliar spray? This means the plant won’t attract the same level of bugs, and so the soil will be poorer, bug wise...
I am sure someone with more knowledge could explain that much better - and I might be wrong in my thinking too...

So, ultimately, are you just replacing one fertiliser with another?
I am not sure what the benefit is, if you are saying growth crashes when the grass doesn’t get its hit of foliar spray?

I was reading this evening about biomagnetism and health for soil and plants.
The author reckons 5 pounds of sugar is needed per acre per week to get soil flushed from all nitrogen fertilizer, all cides of all sorts, etc.
If you get to a brix of 14 in a plant, the plant and soil should be self sustaining.
But you can go to far feeding bacteria in the soil that it could harm plants growing in it. But you'll build your carbon and flush your soil.
By the same token putting nitrogen fertilizer on the soil. Releases a sodium influence and stresses the plant which then causes it to search for nutrients to feed itself but it's only a false feed with the plant having a low brix.
Where I'm on that journey and can one grow large amounts of grass at 14 with low inputs...or does the plant get too lazy with a high brix ..??

Donegalforever · 01-10-2020 10:25PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The fox, (if it survived) should have learned a hard lesson.

Reggie. · 02-10-2020 05:25AM

Donegalforever wrote: »

The fox, (if it survived) should have learned a hard lesson.

Nah I'd say it was killed. It got a right few digs

893bet · 02-10-2020 08:07AM

Good lesson to show how dangerous cows are when they feel their calves under threat.

patsy_mccabe · 02-10-2020 08:53AM

893bet wrote: »

Good lesson to show how dangerous cows are when they feel their calves under threat.

Exactly what I was thinking. I bet the first cow to attack was the matriarch, the head Mama.
Had a very similar thing happen here a few years back. Young guy walking tru the fields with dog. Head Mama here went the length of field to get dog. Only he let go of the dog leash, he would have got full force of cow. I was shocked as she was a very quiet cow. I could rub her in the field.

forgottenhills · 02-10-2020 01:02PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking. I bet the first cow to attack was the matriarch, the head Mama.
Had a very similar thing happen here a few years back. Young guy walking tru the fields with dog. Head Mama here went the length of field to get dog. Only he let go of the dog leash, he would have got full force of cow. I was shocked as she was a very quiet cow. I could rub her in the field.

I have seen that too and there have been some cases in the UK of people being killed by herds of cattle when walking dogs past them. Once an attack starts some sort of real herd instinct kick on where many cattle join in. Even a person lying down in a field of cattle is dangerous as they will come over and may not recognise you as a human or like to see a person in that position and attack you.

Dinzee Conlee · 02-10-2020 07:46PM

Say my name wrote: »

I was reading this evening about biomagnetism and health for soil and plants.
The author reckons 5 pounds of sugar is needed per acre per week to get soil flushed from all nitrogen fertilizer, all cides of all sorts, etc.
If you get to a brix of 14 in a plant, the plant and soil should be self sustaining.
But you can go to far feeding bacteria in the soil that it could harm plants growing in it. But you'll build your carbon and flush your soil.
By the same token putting nitrogen fertilizer on the soil. Releases a sodium influence and stresses the plant which then causes it to search for nutrients to feed itself but it's only a false feed with the plant having a low brix.
Where I'm on that journey and can one grow large amounts of grass at 14 with low inputs...or does the plant get too lazy with a high brix ..??

So you’re planning to use the brix meter to monitor the grass ‘health’

The higher the better?

Will you continue with the same level of seaweed fertilser with molasses, or will you concentrate more on molasses and monitor results via brix?

Where you get the brix meter in the end?

Say my name · 02-10-2020 10:41PM

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

So you’re planning to use the brix meter to monitor the grass ‘health’

The higher the better?

Will you continue with the same level of seaweed fertilser with molasses, or will you concentrate more on molasses and monitor results via brix?

Where you get the brix meter in the end?

This message never showed up on the touch site it only showed up on the full site.

To all that I don't know I'll work off everything from grass growth to animal performance to clean out and how parasite loads look. Basically what I'm doing already by eye. But I'll use it as a tool to see a figure and what happens with the above by that figure.

Got it through the conglomerate but at least you can depend on ..Amazon.

gozunda · 02-10-2020 10:56PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Seen similar here. Large field with a fox covert - the foxes had a habit of lying in the sun in the middle of the field . Later saw a fully grown fox in the same field being trampled by cattle which had only been recently moved.

patsy_mccabe · 04-10-2020 01:15PM

https://twitter.com/i/status/1312114717595377664

patsy_mccabe · 05-10-2020 12:49PM

Some of the first colour pictures taken in Ireland.

charolais0153 · 05-10-2020 10:16PM

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jflkd8p68n33di0/AADPU2bfZDni-n_q71UglniYa?dl=0

A ro,an mbp heifer, pity to sell:o

Base price · 05-10-2020 10:38PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jflkd8p68n33di0/AADPU2bfZDni-n_q71UglniYa?dl=0

A ro,an mbp heifer, pity to sell:o

She is a nice long heifer.

furandfeather · 05-10-2020 10:41PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jflkd8p68n33di0/AADPU2bfZDni-n_q71UglniYa?dl=0

A ro,an mbp heifer, pity to sell:o

A beaut. There blue in her?

charolais0153 · 05-10-2020 10:43PM

furandfeather wrote: »

A beaut. There blue in her?

None, dam is ch x sh

furandfeather · 05-10-2020 10:46PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

None, dam is ch x sh

What age is she? Where you going with her?

charolais0153 · 05-10-2020 10:47PM

furandfeather wrote: »

What age is she? Where you going with her?

December, sold at home, would of brought her to carrick

tanko · 06-10-2020 02:00PM

charolais0153 wrote: »

None, dam is ch x sh

That's some heifer, MBP is a serious bull.
What bulls are the CH and SH breeding there?

Millionaire only not · 06-10-2020 02:04PM

Ch heifer in ennis mart -380kgs made 1880 .

Niallers87 · 06-10-2020 02:10PM

Millionaire only not wrote: »

Ch heifer in ennis mart -380kgs made 1880 .

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/show-heifer-for-sale-in-ennis-mart-6th-october/25746990 this wasnt the one was it?

Millionaire only not · 06-10-2020 02:16PM

Niallers87 wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/show-heifer-for-sale-in-ennis-mart-6th-october/25746990 this wasnt the one was it?

Ya I think that was her , I didn’t see her myself tbh
Nice animal in fairness, if she was more of a snowball she would have been a class animal altogether

Livestock/General Farming photo thread TAKE #2 ::::RULES IN 1st POST::::

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