Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

Dempo1 · 01-10-2020 06:34PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Sarcasm I assume? He doesnt have the credibility to do so.

I cant fathom why hes reinstated himself into that role, he is bringing unbelievable responsibility on himself and pressure on his family, and Im sure he will be just as incapable as before.

Yes a little bit of sarcasm but I'm just astonished at the lack of any recommendations from NPHET today, its as if nothing happened today, Dr Ronan Glynn has been absolutely brilliant, Genuine and compassionate and by all accounts a gentleman, he's doing an interview at the moment RTE, I do get a sense though NPHET holding off till Tony back in the seat on Monday, watch this space.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 06:38PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Yes a little bit of sarcasm but I'm just astonished at the lack of any recommendations from NPHET today, its as if nothing happened today, Dr Ronan Glynn has been absolutely brilliant, Genuine and compassionate and by all accounts a gentleman, he's doing an interview at the moment RTE, I do get a sense though NPHET holding off till Tony back in the seat on Monday, watch this space.

Are you still being sarcastic? Are you talking about Ro Ro? Ro Ro treat everybody including yourself as infectious Ro Ro?

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 06:40PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My son is a member of AGS from talking to him neither je or his colleagues want any further laws put in place despite the claims from a hysteria driven poster here.

Drew Harris has openly said he doesn't want to have the power to enter people's home without a warrant.

Nox once said guards who run drink driving checkpoints in the community should be shunned, not helped with statements and transferred.

I'm glad that drew Harris is in power and not nox.....

weldoninhio · 01-10-2020 06:41PM

Ashleigh1986 wrote: »

Varadkar has said going forward " Ireland should maybe be looking at hospital numbers and people in ICU and those that have a serious case of covid 19 "..... Has the penny finally dropped with these people .... Also just announced holahan is back from Monday ...
Another positive

Leo is like a flag, he goes whatever way the wind (public opinion) is going. He know the public are getting wise to the massaged figures.

01-10-2020 06:41PM

3xh wrote: »

Nox heading into the office for a bit of essential work.

Thankfully I don’t live in or near Dublin.

weldoninhio · 01-10-2020 06:42PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

Are you sure it’s not Hulkamania running wild??

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 06:44PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Thankfully I don’t live in or near Dublin.

It's a first, I agree with nox (and so do 1.3 million dubs)

3xh · 01-10-2020 06:51PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Thankfully I don’t live in or near Dublin.

As a Dub myself, indeed!

Plumbthedepths · 01-10-2020 06:53PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Drew Harris has openly said he doesn't want to have the power to enter people's home without a warrant.

Nox once said guards who run drink driving checkpoints in the community should be shunned, not helped with statements and transferred.

I'm glad that drew Harris is in power and not nox.....

My son has a special hatred for drink drivers, as do I . I was in the fire service. Went to many calls dragging bodies from cars due to some selfish prick that had to have a pint but too f**kin arrogant to get a taxi

kippy · 01-10-2020 06:53PM

paw patrol wrote: »

fully agree - kids are resilient but spending their formative years being afraid of others and believing they harbour this granny killing malevolence within their being is very different to their mental well being and development than rations and nazi bogey man. At least they were "out there" and physical manifestations.

I'd argue there is something very insidious about it .

What makes you think kids are afraid of others more than they normally are? If taught correctly they are learning some key life skills and in fairness from what I see for the past two months and past month kids are generally enjoying the world as they always did, in the majority. Coming back to school has helped no end and there are plenty social interactions happening.
Certain people will always have anxiety and don't get me wrong this can manifest on their kids but that has always been the case.
You cannot assume that every parent is telling every child that they are harbouring a granny killing virus......indeed I would hope that not be the case.
Again, I was asking for some context.

If you want to look at the groups most harmed at the moment but who are not in an at risk group, look to the late teenagers and twenty something's.

Strumms · 01-10-2020 06:54PM

rusty cole wrote: »

OK so then we should all read Anne frank then and think how lucky we are that you're not calling the covid police?? go home and iron your brown shirt will ya FFS!! Did they close nightclubs in the 80's and saunas? due to the KILLER virus that caused Aids in the high risk gay community (as it was believed back then)?? no they said those at risk know the risks and the rest lived their lives. Yes HIV could not ovewhelm the HSE etc but the rationale is the same in my opinion now.

How many people did Aids kill per year in Ireland ?

Did Aids ever threaten the economy or the entire wellbeing of the state ? The wellbeing of so many people?

Aids wasn’t and isn’t airborne. Absolutely ridiculous comparison.

The highest deaths from aids in both 1980’s and 1990’s in one year in Ireland was minuscule in comparison .

Compare that with the 1806 people that covid has killed. The 36,597 it has infected. All in this country... in less than a year.

Tenzor07 · 01-10-2020 06:58PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Thankfully I don’t live in or near Dublin.

Great, maybe there is a God after all... :rolleyes:

01-10-2020 06:59PM

A media headline today on storm Alex says “days of hell” ahead.....

Will likely be some wind and rain.

Pathetic media.

01-10-2020 07:07PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My son is a member of AGS from talking to him neither he or his colleagues want any further laws put in place despite the claims from a hysteria driven poster here.

What’s wrong with them? It’s sad to hear this is the attitude of those in law enforcement.

01-10-2020 07:09PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Fine and stop people from what? What laws are they breaking?

They need to introduce laws was my point.

Penfailed · 01-10-2020 07:13PM

3xh wrote: »

You actually think _Kaiser_ meant exactly 95%?
As in 95.0%?

I’ll go out on a limb here and say he was being indicative of the very large number of people who won’t be affected by this nor have been since it all started and yet here we all are, 5m of us, treated like we’re ravaged by the virus.

I can only go by what was posted.

weldoninhio · 01-10-2020 07:14PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

They need to introduce laws was my point.

Your on another thread saying police can break up house parties because you saw it on Twitter. Your posts are laughable.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 07:17PM

The Irish Tourism Industry Confederation (ITIC) said the Government’s own warnings of 300,000 hospitality-related jobs being in danger due to the Covid crisis doesn’t have to become a reality.

It said at least half of those jobs could be saved with the right levels of Government intervention.

“Tourism and hospitality businesses have been disproportionately hit by the pandemic and shutdowns, and Government must not let Ireland’s largest indigenous industry, and biggest regional employer, perish,” said ITIC chief executive Eoghan O’Mara Walsh, adding that occupancy rates in hotels are at just 9% next month.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/economy/arid-40058102.html

Jesus. The absolute horror. Feel incredibly bad for those people.

And you still have nut jobs looking for more restrictions..... :mad:

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 07:17PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

They need to introduce laws was my point.

What laws in particular would you like introduced???

Penfailed · 01-10-2020 07:19PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Do you have an opinion on state of affairs for the 95% group?

You'll have to be more specific with your question.

Strumms · 01-10-2020 07:20PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My son is a member of AGS from talking to him neither he or his colleagues want any further laws put in place despite the claims from a hysteria driven poster here.

Tough. Laws are not enacted on the basis of Gardai ‘wanting’ them or otherwise.. they are enacted to benefit society. The Gardai take a declaration....

“ I will faithfully discharge the duties of a member of the Garda Síochána with fairness, integrity, regard for human rights, diligence and impartiality, upholding the Constitution and the laws and according equal respect to all people “

im not surprised regarding your sons views on the situation, might make life a little busier and inconvenient for him. Recent interactions with them tell me if it’s shooting fish in a barrel they are all over it, anything involving legwork, patience, intelligence and getting the finger out, they don’t want to know, forget about it.

Tenzor07 · 01-10-2020 07:20PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

What laws in particular would you like introduced???

Probably something like this I'd say: https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-philippine-president-rodrigo-duterte-says-he-will-bury-people-who-break-quarantine-laws-11967407

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 07:20PM

Penfailed wrote: »

You'll have to be more specific with your question.

You are right, you've tried to alien yourself from Noxxy back last week, when it was becoming increasingly obvious you support his views.

You are very similar to Leo. I know that much.

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 07:21PM

Strumms wrote: »

Tough. Laws are not enacted on the basis of Gardai ‘wanting’ them or otherwise.. they are enacted to benefit society. The Gardai take a declaration....

“ I will faithfully discharge the duties of a member of the Garda Síochána with fairness, integrity, regard for human rights, diligence and impartiality, upholding the Constitution and the laws and according equal respect to all people “

im not surprised regarding your sons views on the situation, might make life a little busier and inconvenient for him. Recent interactions with them tell me if it’s shooting fish in a barrel they are all over it, anything involving legwork, patience, intelligence and getting the finger out, they don’t want to know, forget about it.

Maybe that's the part he has an issue with.....

01-10-2020 07:21PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

My son has a special hatred for drink drivers, as do I . I was in the fire service. Went to many calls dragging bodies from cars due to some selfish prick that had to have a pint but too f**kin arrogant to get a taxi

They had a lot more than a pint in that case.

Our local guard is as sound as you could meet never does bagging checkpoints will only pull a lad who is constantly driving hammered (and reported to him) and said and I quote “I always give a lad a chance” i.e. you will get warned the first time and told to park up but no more. The second time you are done though and rightly so.

Strumms · 01-10-2020 07:27PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I think you'll find that what we're actually doing is suffering the consequences (again) of the HSE and Government's inability to get the health service in order.

What have they been at all summer when the cases were at minimal numbers? Why are we still worrying about hospitals being overrun; not that there's any evidence of this given the low deaths and skewed - and admitted to - reporting criteria as to what counts as a "case" in the first place.

All that's really happening is people are being kept afraid with the daily dose of misery reporting from RTE and the media and NPHET leaking their "recommendations" Ahead of the Government announcements (such as the one this afternoon about new restrictions on gatherings)

This virus is of no risk to the vast majority yet it's had as toxic an influence on Irish society as the bad old days of the Catholic Church

Hardly something to be applauded - quite the opposite!

We are still worrying because PEOPLE, too many of the fûckwits are not adhering to restrictions, the virus doesn’t have a key to anybody’s front door, it doesn’t go around ripping people’s masks off...

It’s of risk to enough. The Catholic Church analogy is apt. They had and even have too, people such as yourself, similar traits, excusing away wrong doing all be of a differing variety.

Stormyteacup · 01-10-2020 07:29PM

Strumms wrote: »

Tough. Laws are not enacted on the basis of Gardai ‘wanting’ them or otherwise.. they are enacted to benefit society. The Gardai take a declaration....

“ I will faithfully discharge the duties of a member of the Garda Síochána with fairness, integrity, regard for human rights, diligence and impartiality, upholding the Constitution and the laws and according equal respect to all people “

im not surprised regarding your sons views on the situation, might make life a little busier and inconvenient for him. Recent interactions with them tell me if it’s shooting fish in a barrel they are all over it, anything involving legwork, patience, intelligence and getting the finger out, they don’t want to know, forget about it.

Perhaps they feel that declaration would put the at odds with what some posters would have them do?

Maybe it’s not busier and inconvenient- maybe they recognise that it will escalate an already overbalancing situation in certain parts of society.

Would be preferable to shut out the great unwashed but I suspect any Garda on the ground would tell you part of the job is keeping the balance between the haves and the have-nots. Don’t envy them as the gap is getting wider every day.

Stormyteacup · 01-10-2020 07:33PM

Strumms wrote: »

We are still worrying because PEOPLE, too many of the fûckwits are not adhering to restrictions, the virus doesn’t have a key to anybody’s front door, it doesn’t go around ripping people’s masks off...

It’s of risk to enough. The Catholic Church analogy is apt. They had and even have too, people such as yourself, similar traits, excusing away wrong doing all be of a differing variety.

No it’s not of risk to enough to justify restrictions anymore. Simple as that.

01-10-2020 07:33PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

What laws in particular would you like introduced???

Make the guidelines law. More than 6 people from more than 1 household in another house then fine them. Fine people gathering in groups outdoors, fine people leaving their county (when at level 3) and turn them around etc.

Strumms · 01-10-2020 07:38PM

Stormyteacup wrote: »

Perhaps they feel that declaration would put the at odds with what some posters would have them do?

Maybe it’s not busier and inconvenient- maybe they recognise that it will escalate an already overbalancing situation in certain parts of society.

Would be preferable to shut out the great unwashed but I suspect any Garda on the ground would tell you part of the job is keeping the balance between the haves and the have-nots. Don’t envy them as the gap is getting wider every day.

I can hit a tennis ball from my front door and hit the door of a self made millionaire. I’m not inclined to envy him, begrudge him, or dislike him. I’m inclined to say when a while back he got a new Mercedes AMG...well done, beautiful car, maybe one day (I can dream)... but I’m not of the mind to want to Nick it, wreck it or burn it.... that’s just cûntish behavior.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings