Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

01-10-2020 04:50PM

Strumms wrote: »

See what would happen re: mental health and more importantly GENERAL physical HEALTH if the hospitals become in danger of not being able to cope / function. If the virus ‘really’ exploded.

In essence what you are doing is criticizing people for speaking up about and against others who’s behavior is below the threshold and standard asked and expected as relates to this virus.

People who are proactive in wanting others to follow rules and common sense for to benefit society, health should be applauded.

OK so then we should all read Anne frank then and think how lucky we are that you're not calling the covid police?? go home and iron your brown shirt will ya FFS!! Did they close nightclubs in the 80's and saunas? due to the KILLER virus that caused Aids in the high risk gay community (as it was believed back then)?? no they said those at risk know the risks and the rest lived their lives. Yes HIV could not ovewhelm the HSE etc but the rationale is the same in my opinion now.

D.Q · 01-10-2020 04:55PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This virus is of no risk to the vast majority yet it's had as toxic an influence on Irish society as the bad old days of the Catholic Church

Hardly something to be applauded - quite the opposite!

Agree with the general sentiment of your post but you're doing the killer virus a disservice by comparing it to that cancerous organisation.

Thankfully no strain of the virus is systematically raping and torturing children yet.

Penfailed · 01-10-2020 05:05PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

This forum is depressing reading..

- People reporting their neighbours
- Complaining that shop staff weren't wearing masks/visors properly
- Worrying because they forgot to put their mask on before they went into the shops
- Ongoing obsession over extremely low hospitalisations/deaths (in the context of overall cases and total population)
- The fallout over the LC exams that should never have been cancelled in the first place
- Inconsistent makey-uppy restrictions in counties

All this for a virus that has mild to zero real impact on 95% of the country :rolleyes: The social and mental health fallout from all this will resonate for years after CV-19 I fear.

What about the other 5%? That's 250,000 people.

3xh · 01-10-2020 05:08PM

Penfailed wrote: »

What about the other 5%? That's 250,000 people.

They’ve had it (mostly asymptomatically) and are fine.

Penfailed · 01-10-2020 05:09PM

3xh wrote: »

They’ve had it (mostly asymptomatically) and are fine.

I'm assuming that's the 'mild to zero' impact on the 95% that the OP mentioned.

bucketybuck · 01-10-2020 05:12PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

I just saw on the Greystones open forum on Facebook a thread about him returning. Full of posts like: “ great news we need to get back on track now” or “great, time to get momentum going again” or “time to get our house in order again”. These people actually WANT a full lockdown again! There no hope for us......

Said it before, a huge amount of event junkies in this country, they have such empty lives that they will gorge on situations like this for as long as they can.

Lockdown is a shared experience for them to be involved with, if they didn't have covid they would have to go back to creating drama with the neighbours.

3xh · 01-10-2020 05:15PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I'm assuming that's the 'mild to zero' impact on the 95% that the OP mentioned.

I dunno. But if there’s ~35000 known cases and we know it’s largely an asymptomatic virus, we’ve a good way to go to get to 250000 cases/hospitalisations/ICU/Deaths.

In the meantime, 5,000,000 are being affected as though they’re infectious.

Penfailed · 01-10-2020 05:30PM

3xh wrote: »

I dunno. But if there’s ~35000 known cases and we know it’s largely an asymptomatic virus, we’ve a good way to go to get to 250000 cases/hospitalisations/ICU/Deaths.

In the meantime, 5,000,000 are being affected as though they’re infectious.

I wasn't the one that made the claim.

3xh · 01-10-2020 05:40PM

Penfailed wrote: »

I wasn't the one that made the claim.

You actually think _Kaiser_ meant exactly 95%?
As in 95.0%?

I’ll go out on a limb here and say he was being indicative of the very large number of people who won’t be affected by this nor have been since it all started and yet here we all are, 5m of us, treated like we’re ravaged by the virus.

Don't Chute! · 01-10-2020 05:41PM

Driving home from work this evening down the M50 I passed a car with a guy on his own, wearing a mask. He was also either texting somebody or watching a video on his phone. There are no words for that level of stupidity.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 05:50PM

Penfailed wrote: »

What about the other 5%? That's 250,000 people.

Do you have an opinion on state of affairs for the 95% group?

Graces7 · 01-10-2020 05:56PM

3xh wrote: »

You actually think _Kaiser_ meant exactly 95%?
As in 95.0%?

I’ll go out on a limb here and say he was being indicative of the very large number of people who won’t be affected by this nor have been since it all started and yet here we all are, 5m of us, treated like we’re ravaged by the virus.

I have only dipped into these threads so I may have missed where it was realised that the reason there are so few deaths and comparatively few cases is that we had a swift and thorough and immediate lockdown before the virus had a chance to take root.

Also because HSE was aware enough to cope . And still is.

And some folk here are being very insular about the virus. We have close friends in India where the death toll is vast and where bodies are left to lie in the streets. Look at the mass burials all over the world? Ask google for "images mass burials"

That is the same virus we have here. Deadly and virulent.

Only difference is how it was handled and controlled

Over and out from me on this; I was in "lockdown" way before covid - 19 hit as my immune system is down and a simple cold could kill me. And I am deeply thankful for all the community support we cocooners got and are getting. For the stringent covid-19 precautions in hospital when a medical emergency took me there.

Ireland has done far better than so many other countries. And folk here are attacking that? And refusing to adapt .

Thankfully there are many who do.

froog · 01-10-2020 06:00PM

Graces7 wrote: »

I have only dipped into these threads so I may have missed where it was realised that the reason there are so few deaths and comparatively few cases is that we had a swift and thorough and immediate lockdown before the virus had a chance to take root.

Also because HSE was aware enough to cope . And still is.

And some folk here are being very insular about the virus. We have close friends in India where the death toll is vast and where bodies are left to lie in the streets. Look at the mass burials all over the world? Ask google for "images mass burials"

That is the same virus we have here. Deadly and virulent.

Only difference is how it was handled and controlled

Over and out from me on this; I was in "lockdown" way before covid - 19 hit as my immune system is down and a simple cold could kill me. And I am deeply thankful for all the community support we cocooners got and are getting. For the stringent covid-19 precautions in hospital when a medical emergency took me there.

Ireland has done far better than so many other countries. And folk here are attacking that? And refusing to adapt .

Thankfully there are many who do.

stay safe graces7.

Plumbthedepths · 01-10-2020 06:00PM

Graces7 wrote: »

I have only dipped into these threads so I may have missed where it was realised that the reason there are so few deaths and comparatively few cases is that we had a swift and thorough and immediate lockdown before the virus had a chance to take root.

Also because HSE was aware enough to cope . And still is.

And some folk here are being very insular about the virus. We have close friends in India where the death toll is vast and where bodies are left to lie in the streets. Look at the mass burials all over the world? Ask google for "images mass burials"

That is the same virus we have here. Deadly and virulent.

Only difference is how it was handled and controlled

Over and out from me on this; I was in "lockdown" way before covid - 19 hit as my immune system is down and a simple cold could kill me. And I am deeply thankful for all the community support we cocooners got and are getting. For the stringent covid-19 precautions in hospital when a medical emergency took me there.

Ireland has done far better than so many other countries. And folk here are attacking that? And refusing to adapt .

Thankfully there are many who do.

Another hit and run full of unsubstantiated nonsense as per usual.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 06:02PM

Graces7 wrote: »

I have only dipped into these threads so I may have missed where it was realised that the reason there are so few deaths and comparatively few cases is that we had a swift and thorough and immediate lockdown before the virus had a chance to take root.

Also because HSE was aware enough to cope . And still is.

And some folk here are being very insular about the virus. We have close friends in India where the death toll is vast and where bodies are left to lie in the streets. Look at the mass burials all over the world? Ask google for "images mass burials"

That is the same virus we have here. Deadly and virulent.

Only difference is how it was handled and controlled

Over and out from me on this; I was in "lockdown" way before covid - 19 hit as my immune system is down and a simple cold could kill me. And I am deeply thankful for all the community support we cocooners got and are getting. For the stringent covid-19 precautions in hospital when a medical emergency took me there.

Ireland has done far better than so many other countries. And folk here are attacking that? And refusing to adapt .

Thankfully there are many who do.

Are you serious? Thats just a stupid thing to post. Fear mongering level 10,000.

FintanMcluskey · 01-10-2020 06:15PM

Graces7 wrote: »

I have only dipped into these threads so I may have missed where it was realised that the reason there are so few deaths and comparatively few cases is that we had a swift and thorough and immediate lockdown before the virus had a chance to take root.

Also because HSE was aware enough to cope . And still is.

And some folk here are being very insular about the virus. We have close friends in India where the death toll is vast and where bodies are left to lie in the streets. Look at the mass burials all over the world? Ask google for "images mass burials"

That is the same virus we have here. Deadly and virulent.

Only difference is how it was handled and controlled

Over and out from me on this; I was in "lockdown" way before covid - 19 hit as my immune system is down and a simple cold could kill me. And I am deeply thankful for all the community support we cocooners got and are getting. For the stringent covid-19 precautions in hospital when a medical emergency took me there.

Ireland has done far better than so many other countries. And folk here are attacking that? And refusing to adapt .

Thankfully there are many who do.

When the stats are broken down Ireland looks to have a death rate of about 100.

Looks like it will be a good year for excess deaths.

Inspite of the mismanagement of nursing homes.

With all due respect, when the median age of death is above life expectancy, nearly all deaths occured in nursing homes, and most cases are asymptomatic, Im not sure is "deadly" an accurate discription.

Ashleigh1986 · 01-10-2020 06:16PM

Varadkar has said going forward " Ireland should maybe be looking at hospital numbers and people in ICU and those that have a serious case of covid 19 "..... Has the penny finally dropped with these people .... Also just announced holahan is back from Monday ...
Another positive

01-10-2020 06:16PM

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

facehugger99 · 01-10-2020 06:18PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Driving home from work this evening down the M50 I passed a car with a guy on his own, wearing a mask. He was also either texting somebody or watching a video on his phone. There are no words for that level of stupidity.

At least if he dies in a car crash he probably won't get recorded as a Covid death.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 06:19PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

Jesus Nox, running wild?

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 06:20PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

At 450 cases per day, it will take 30 years for our population to get infected with covid. Time to call in the military to stop this spread :rolleyes:

Dempo1 · 01-10-2020 06:25PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

Are we missing something here, highest case numbers since April, four more deaths, Stephen Donnelly terribly concerned about the people of Dublin and Donegal, HSE seemingly suggesting everything is brilliant at their nauseating press conference earlier and news of Tony Houlihans return on Monday but in the end, NOTHING except a nonsensical 6 people in your home rule that's completely unenforceable.

Either the Government have now decided, Feck it, we'll just live with it or Tony Houlihan is going to rip the nation a new A#€e Hole on Monday.

3xh · 01-10-2020 06:25PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Driving home from work this evening down the M50 I passed a car with a guy on his own, wearing a mask. He was also either texting somebody or watching a video on his phone. There are no words for that level of stupidity.

Nox heading into the office for a bit of essential work.

weldoninhio · 01-10-2020 06:28PM

Strumms wrote: »

See what would happen re: mental health and more importantly GENERAL physical HEALTH if the hospitals become in danger of not being able to cope / function. If the virus ‘really’ exploded.

In essence what you are doing is criticizing people for speaking up about and against others who’s behavior is below the threshold and standard asked and expected as relates to this virus.

People who are proactive in wanting others to follow rules and common sense for to benefit society, health should be applauded.

Hospitals aren’t able to cope EVERY winter. It’s nothing new.

Plumbthedepths · 01-10-2020 06:28PM

3xh wrote: »

Nox heading into the office for a bit of essential work.

Hopefully he has respect for other road users if he is driving that he refrains from drinking first.

FintanMcluskey · 01-10-2020 06:29PM

Dempo1 wrote: »

Are we missing something here, highest case numbers since April, four more deaths, Stephen Donnelly terribly concerned about the people of Dublin and Donegal, HSE seemingly suggesting everything is brilliant at their nauseating press conference earlier and news of Tony Houlihans return on Monday but in the end, NOTHING except a nonsensical 6 people in your home rule that's completely unenforceable.

Either the Government have now decided, Feck it, we'll just live with it or Tony Houlihan is going to rip the nation a new A#€e Hole on Monday.

Sarcasm I assume? He doesnt have the credibility to do so.

I cant fathom why hes reinstated himself into that role, he is bringing unbelievable responsibility on himself and pressure on his family, and Im sure he will be just as incapable as before.

weldoninhio · 01-10-2020 06:30PM

prunudo wrote: »

Very much a love in for the old regime on that page, don't dare slag off Harris but Donnelly is fair game.

The old regime who bullied the nursing homes to reopen to visitors.

hynesie08 · 01-10-2020 06:30PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Very surprised there wasn’t a few more counties increased to level 3, now was the time to do it not when it’s totally running wild.

No sign of things dropping in Dublin either I think things need to get much stricter, level 4 min and give the gardai some power to actually fine/stop people ffs.

Fine and stop people from what? What laws are they breaking?

Plumbthedepths · 01-10-2020 06:33PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Fine and stop people from what? What laws are they breaking?

My son is a member of AGS from talking to him neither he or his colleagues want any further laws put in place despite the claims from a hysteria driven poster here.

Ginger n Lemon · 01-10-2020 06:33PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Sarcasm I assume? He doesnt have the credibility to do so.

I cant fathom why hes reinstated himself into that role, he is bringing unbelievable responsibility on himself and pressure on his family, and Im sure he will be just as incapable as before.

I didnt notice Tony being gone. Like up to July, all I heard was "I have a cause for concern", after July its been pretty much "We are very concerned"

If only they put their energy of being concerned into looking after the healthcare system instead.... we'd have better healthcare than Germany!

Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings