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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #5162
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Oh that makes it grand so

    Did I say that?

    It's bad news for the hospitality, leisure sectors but it won't stop construction, manufacturing and such like, have all the cranes come down in Dublin?


  • #5163
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The percentage of cases that are community transmission remains around 25%.

    That is something good I suppose


  • #5164
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    froog wrote: »
    can you link me the research on the impact of ireland's level 3 restrictions on the economy please?

    How about we send the unemployed around to your home to tell you in person?


  • #5165
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Did I say that. It's bad news for the hospitality, leisure sectors but it won't stop construction, manufacturing and such like, have all the cranes come down in Dublin?
    No they haven't but 10,000 people have been added to social welfare.


  • #5166
    Van.Bosch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,045 ✭✭✭Van.Bosch


    Any word on the tests sent to Germany, are we gonna have them come back in one go?


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  • #5167
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    what exactly are people hoping for? the cases and deaths suddenly stop for no reason whatsoever at current levels of control?


  • #5168
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bodhrandude wrote: »
    Yep yourself and Rusty Cole have been going on about that, maybe with Tony back in the fold on Monday will hopefully start giving this information again.

    It's a fair question, we are regularly informed of the age of people involved in for example fatal car crashes. Just yesterday evening RTE carried news of the passing of a 12 year old girl due to a house fire. Today we were informed 4 people died from Covid, why the level of detail about the child's death yet no detail of the death of the 4 individuals mentioned today.


  • #5169
    eigrod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭eigrod


    Ronan Glynn interview upcoming on RTE six one news.


  • #5170
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    what exactly are people hoping for? the cases and deaths suddenly stop for no reason whatsoever at current levels of control?
    Cases and deaths won't suddenly 'stop' with any measures. We're Living with Covid, it's literally the name of the plan.


  • #5171
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Van.Bosch wrote: »
    Any word on the tests sent to Germany, are we gonna have them come back in one go?

    Could be the big bump today maybe?


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  • #5172
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    How long has Dublin been at level three? Two weeks is it and yet the numbers remain about the same, if there isn't a pretty clear steady drop off between now and Tuesday surely it'll be renewed.


  • #5173
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    froog wrote: »
    can you link me the research on the impact of ireland's level 3 restrictions on the economy please?

    Its literally been said just after mine the impact on PUP overnight in Dublin with more redundancies to follow next week according to reports today all because of level 3.

    Now spread that out across the country.

    Easily found with a quick Google also.


  • #5174
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Cases and deaths won't suddenly 'stop' with any measures. We're Living with Covid, it's literally the name of the plan.

    Surely you mean ‘Existing with Covid’?


  • #5175
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    How long has Dublin been at level three? Two weeks is it and yet the numbers remain about the same, if there isn't a pretty clear steady drop off between now and Tuesday surely it'll be renewed.

    Will be 2 weeks on Saturday


  • #5176
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Cases and deaths won't suddenly 'stop' with any measures. We're Living with Covid, it's literally the name of the plan.

    oh really? cause that's exactly what happened in May.


  • #5177
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,493 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    UEFA to allow 30% capacity of stadiums to be used for UEFA games subject to local government restrictions
    https://twitter.com/RobHarris/status/1311707899530444802?s=19

    Will this affect our playoff?


  • #5178
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    ongarite wrote: »
    If you want a positive its that Dublin cases are down to less than 38%, from average of 50% of cases.

    Which means nothing if the national total has risen!


  • #5179
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    froog wrote: »
    what exactly are people hoping for? the cases and deaths suddenly stop for no reason whatsoever at current levels of control?

    For a pandemic, the level of cases and deaths are pretty chill at the moment.


  • #5180
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,762 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Will this affect our playoff?

    Nah, Slovakia not allowing people in anyway.

    Might help Dundalk if they get into group stages and can put together a plan for the Aviva perhaps if allowed


  • #5181
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    oh really? cause that's exactly what happened in May.
    I don't remember having 0 cases and 0 deaths on the same day, to be honest.


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  • #5182
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It's a fair question, we are regularly informed of the age of people involved in for example fatal car crashes. Just yesterday evening RTE carried news of the passing of a 12 year old girl due to a house fire. Today we were informed 4 people died from Covid, why the level of detail about the child's death yet no detail of the death of the 4 individuals mentioned today.

    Plus we're regularly informed about the tragic 'young' people in ICU.


  • #5183
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,533 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Is it ridiculous to suggest increased testing has resulted in increase cases across Europe?
    That seems to be the only common denominator over the past two months.
    I think this is part of the story when comparing back to April/May. I think though it's quite clear that the real common factor has been attempts by most governments to open up a little more.

    We are gaining in our understanding of this disease all the time, and as a result are more inclined to tweak restrictions to try and curtail too rapid an expansion of the numbers.

    We now face the concerns of other winter viruses such as flu, and maybe we are now re-entering a "flattening the curve" phase. Equally I would hope the restrictions that have continued will help mitigate flu and other viruses as well as Covid-19 over the winter


  • #5184
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I don't remember having 0 cases and 0 deaths on the same day, to be honest.

    you don't remember cases and deaths dropping after the lockdown?


  • #5185
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,915 ✭✭✭ongarite


    750K people are out of work/on PUP or temporary wage subsidy scheme at the moment.
    That's an effective unemployment rate of 25% from workforce size of 2.3 million.

    Going to level 3 or more stringent lockdown will easily bring that to 1 million getting a payment from the government (or your pocket).
    That is completely unsustainable & will have far reaching consequences.


  • #5186
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    you don't remember cases and deaths dropping after the lockdown?
    I said I don't remember having 0 cases and 0 deaths on the same day. You said cases and deaths won't suddenly stop at this level of control. I said they won't suddenly stop no matter what the level of control.


  • #5187
    Ohmeha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Latest Dublin LEA per 100k figures pulled from the hub for the 14 days period of 15th September to 28th September. Also table below of LEA's with highest percentage growth during this period

    Still driven by socio-economic patterns in the city. If I'm seeing a positive LEA's like Blanchardstown/Tallaght/Ballymum that had huge case numbers during the past 2 weeks are now near the bottom on percentage growth or even reducing new cases which tells me that there is a combination of outbreaks being controlled and populations reacting positively by reducing their contacts when there are outbreaks in their local area

    LEA Date Range Cases Increase LEA per 100k ROI per 100k Population
    KIMMAGE-RATHMINES LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 158 79.55% 282.8 88.2 55,861
    BALLYMUN-FINGLAS LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 149 2.05% 270.9 88.2 55,010
    CABRA-GLASNEVIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 149 112.86% 270.9 88.2 58,652
    CLONDALKIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 93 32.86% 199.9 88.2 46,520
    SOUTH WEST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 80 -1.23% 188.9 88.2 42,344
    BALLYFERMOT-DRIMNAGH LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 85 14.86% 184.5 88.2 46,068
    PALMERSTOWN-FONTHILL LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 70 32.08% 184.0 88.2 38,035
    NORTH INNER CITY LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 115 43.75% 180.8 88.2 63,612
    TALLAGHT SOUTH LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 64 8.47% 180.5 88.2 35,465
    ONGAR LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 62 19.23% 173.0 88.2 35,384
    SWORDS LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 88 100.00% 171.3 88.2 51,370
    DONAGHMEDE LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 71 31.48% 170.7 88.2 41,593
    SOUTH EAST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 69 30.19% 169.9 88.2 40,603
    RATHFARNHAM-TEMPLEOGUE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 77 28.33% 160.7 88.2 47,909
    CLONTARF LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 83 15.28% 153.2 88.2 54,182
    RUSH-LUSK LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 52 52.94% 150.0 88.2 34,674
    HOWTH-MALAHIDE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 83 40.68% 147.8 88.2 56,139
    ARTANE-WHITEHALL LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 72 41.18% 140.7 88.2 51,156
    TALLAGHT CENTRAL LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 59 -14.49% 136.5 88.2 43,215
    BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 48 6.67% 136.0 88.2 35,307
    BALBRIGGAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 49 -10.91% 134.0 88.2 36,570
    CASTLEKNOCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 55 25.00% 119.2 88.2 46,126
    LUCAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 55 129.17% 119.2 88.2 33,421
    GLENCULLEN-SANDYFORD LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 40 42.86% 109.2 88.2 36,622
    STILLORGAN LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 33 94.12% 108.2 88.2 30,508
    DÚN LAOGHAIRE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 37 48.00% 88.9 88.2 41,627
    DUNDRUM LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 33 83.33% 88.1 88.2 37,452
    FIRHOUSE-BOHERNABREENA LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 27 12.50% 78.9 88.2 34,202
    KILLINEY-SHANKILL LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 26 4.00% 68.3 88.2 38,082
    BLACKROCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 22 37.50% 65.2 88.2 33,727
    PEMBROKE LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 26 0.00% 57.2 88.2 45,473




    LEA Date Range Cases Increase
    LUCAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 55 129.17%
    CABRA-GLASNEVIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 149 112.86%
    SWORDS LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 88 100.00%
    STILLORGAN LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 33 94.12%
    DUNDRUM LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 33 83.33%
    KIMMAGE-RATHMINES LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 158 79.55%
    RUSH-LUSK LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 52 52.94%
    DÚN LAOGHAIRE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 37 48.00%
    NORTH INNER CITY LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 115 43.75%
    GLENCULLEN-SANDYFORD LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 40 42.86%
    ARTANE-WHITEHALL LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 72 41.18%
    HOWTH-MALAHIDE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 83 40.68%
    BLACKROCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 22 37.50%
    CLONDALKIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 93 32.86%
    PALMERSTOWN-FONTHILL LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 70 32.08%
    DONAGHMEDE LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 71 31.48%
    SOUTH EAST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 69 30.19%
    RATHFARNHAM-TEMPLEOGUE LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 77 28.33%
    CASTLEKNOCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 55 25.00%
    ONGAR LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 62 19.23%
    CLONTARF LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 83 15.28%
    BALLYFERMOT-DRIMNAGH LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 85 14.86%
    FIRHOUSE-BOHERNABREENA LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 27 12.50%
    TALLAGHT SOUTH LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 64 8.47%
    BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 48 6.67%
    KILLINEY-SHANKILL LEA-7, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 26 4.00%
    BALLYMUN-FINGLAS LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 149 2.05%
    PEMBROKE LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 26 0.00%
    SOUTH WEST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 80 -1.23%
    BALBRIGGAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 49 -10.91%
    TALLAGHT CENTRAL LEA-6, DUBLIN 15/09/20 to 28/09/20 59 -14.49%


  • #5188
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Not sure why people are calling it 'uncontrollable'. Prof. Nolan clearly said yesterday community transmission remains stable.

    It’s not uncontrolled. Growing at a rate of 1.5. With a r0 of 3 plus with uncontrolled spread we are preventing at least 50% of transmission. It is unsustainable however. I said a few weeks back, that based on hospital and icu figure we could cope with up to 5000 cases a week but not much more than that. We are looking at hitting that within 3 weeks.

    The good news is given we are preventing more than 50% of cases we don’t have too much more to do to halt the growth.


  • #5189
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I said I don't remember having 0 cases and 0 deaths on the same day. You said cases and deaths won't suddenly stop at this level of control. I said they won't suddenly stop no matter what the level of control.

    so what do you think happens if we stay exactly as is?


  • #5190
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    ongarite wrote: »
    750K people are out of work/on PUP or temporary wage subsidy scheme at the moment.
    That's an effective unemployment rate of 25% from workforce size of 2.3 million.

    Going to level 3 or more stringent lockdown will easily bring that to 1 million getting a payment from the government (or your pocket).
    That is completely unsustainable & will have far reaching consequences.

    You're talking about long term consequences - some people can only see a few weeks in front of them.

    Massive depression incoming one way or the other - sad times ahead.


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  • #5191
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,974 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    froog wrote: »
    so what do you think happens if we stay exactly as is?
    I think we'll eventually see cases across the problematic counties level out and decrease, just like what happened in Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford, who had no restrictions.


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