Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings

hynesie08 · 29-09-2020 09:28PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Yet most people are not impacted in fact with WFH many are saving a fortune, house prices rising, builders nearly turning off their phones as can’t keep up with work, half the county is doing up houses with left over holiday money etc.

There are parts of the economy hit of course but an awful lot isn’t either.

You literally do not live in the real world........

road_high · 29-09-2020 09:30PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Yet most people are not impacted in fact with WFH many are saving a fortune, house prices rising, builders nearly turning off their phones as can’t keep up with work, half the county is doing up houses with left over holiday money etc.

There are parts of the economy hit of course but an awful lot isn’t either.

This is delusion on a grand scale. Do you think WFH professionals (like me) and our companies are completely removed from the economic headwinds ahead? That a significant proportion of the economy is destroyed and we will continue on, not a bother?
There’s many ways I can think of my company being exposed to the crisis be it through reduced credit or customers exposed to other sectors. The economy is like a finely balanced eco system, many segments mutually dependent.
Wake the fcuk up

Russman · 29-09-2020 09:31PM

Penfailed wrote: »

Was that the plan outlined in March? I thought that the plan in March was to flatten the curve...and that was it. I don't recall hearing anything about waiting on a vaccine.

How did you think this was going to end, without a vaccine ? I would have thought it was obvious that the end game was a vaccine, once the virus got out of China and got a foothold in the West.

AUDI20 · 29-09-2020 09:32PM

polesheep wrote: »

If anecdotes are to be believed our ICUs are peppered with fit young men.

Believe what you want, hope you don't ever find yourself in ICU

Penfailed · 29-09-2020 09:37PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

Yet most people are not impacted in fact with WFH many are saving a fortune, house prices rising, builders nearly turning off their phones as can’t keep up with work, half the county is doing up houses with left over holiday money etc.

There are parts of the economy hit of course but an awful lot isn’t either.

Ah c'mon! Yer messin'.

AUDI20 · 29-09-2020 09:43PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

In fairness the odds are massively in your favour to survive if you are under 65 and don’t have a chronic illness.

Agree with the odds part, but I wouldn't like to find out if I am in that 1% if I got Covid

topper75 · 29-09-2020 09:44PM

Russman wrote: »

How did you think this was going to end, without a vaccine ? I would have thought it was obvious that the end game was a vaccine, once the virus got out of China and got a foothold in the West.

Of all the viruses in the Coronavirus family, not one has a vaccine.

The common cold costs the US economy $40bn EVERY year. It is not like scientists and pharma folk were short $ motivation to date.

Call me a pessimist but I don't foresee a vaccine and am very concerned that official strategy of the Irish govt and NPHET surrounding Covid is entirely predicated on one being found. There seems to be dangerous Groupthink going on in medical circles.

Groupthink is not a reflection on the intelligence of those concerned note. Exhibit A:

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-challenger-disaster-changed-nasa

normanoffside · 29-09-2020 09:46PM

AUDI20 wrote: »

Agree with the odds part, but I wouldn't like to find out if I am in that 1% if I got Covid

Unless you are well over 65, it's nothing like 1%

https://twitter.com/MerlynConor2/status/1311027013323550720

CruelSummer · 29-09-2020 09:54PM

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1311045248521510912?s=21

Prime time at the moment

29-09-2020 10:01PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Reposting but since you are open to accepting the point maybe it is worth it;

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/

As at 16/5/20 - total cases 23879; total hospitalised 3094; 13%

Period of 17/5/20 to 16/7/20 - total cases 1798; total hospitalised 245; 13.6%

Period of 17/7/20 to date - total cases 9310; total hospitalised 244; 3%

What exactly are you saying here? The percentage of positive tests versus hospitalisations are going down? Any idea why that might be? There is still a steady correlation between cases and hospitlatiosn; 3% like you say.

Interesting that you've used almost the exact same data that I read to see a rise in cases does correlate to a rise in hospitalisations. I prefer the 14-day running averages, as it flattens out the outliers. If you open every pdf there, look at "National incidence of confirmed cases per 100,000 population" and "Number of cases hospitalised".

You will see that as the cases doubled over the period that we opened up, that the number of cases hospitalised double. All of this is at the rate of roughly 3% that you state. Pity the 14-day ones don't go back too far. Would take forever to go through the daily ones.

patnor1011 · 29-09-2020 10:01PM

Grant Billions Bifocals wrote: »

I was just coming here to post about that disgraceful behaviour and say how it clearly shows level 3 or more is needed to curb these idiotic gatherings.

Every single person in the group is a moron, brain dead fools. Should all be expelled from their university. Not even an ounce of respect for the fact we are in the middle of a pandemic, can’t believe I’ve come in here to find someone defending it people really have lost the plot.

About 10 different people have WhatsApp’d me that pic and commenting how is an absolute disgrace. We need to give the guards power to hit these financially and the universities need to kick them out.m

The anti restriction posters really are blind and deaf to the situation we are in, pure selfish and don’t give a damn really that we simply should not be mixing with other people at all or they simply don’t understand how serious this virus is.

Sure.
Now who is at bigger risk?
80 drunk students dancing in the street or 80 mostly OAP's having nice dinner and drinks in a room at golf resort.

normanoffside · 29-09-2020 10:05PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1311045248521510912?s=21

Prime time at the moment

This guy is a hero. McConkey is completely speechless.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 29-09-2020 10:08PM

Assetbacked wrote: »

Reposting but since you are open to accepting the point maybe it is worth it;

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/casesinireland/epidemiologyofcovid-19inireland/

As at 16/5/20 - total cases 23879; total hospitalised 3094; 13%

Period of 17/5/20 to 16/7/20 - total cases 1798; total hospitalised 245; 13.6%

Period of 17/7/20 to date - total cases 9310; total hospitalised 244; 3%

It's well accepted that too many people were hospitalised in the early stages of covid 19. Hospitals were almost used as isolation and quarantine facilities.

We are detecting more asymptomatic cases so the % hospitalised will obviously go down.

I fail to see the poi t you are trying to raise.

29-09-2020 10:08PM

normanoffside wrote: »

This guy is a hero. McConkey is completely speechless.

the first time I've heard sense spoken!!! More voices need to come out from the shadows, preferably medical. Feeley's points were brilliant. McConkey wants us to be like New Zealand, Greenland and Guernsey.............all remote islands. We are so dependant on travel for business and imports/exports that we can never be like the above countries. Its impossible. Mc Conkey wants to get to ZERO cases - at what cost????

road_high · 29-09-2020 10:08PM

normanoffside wrote: »

This guy is a hero. McConkey is completely speechless.

Not watching these days much but must watch this on +1!

FintanMcluskey · 29-09-2020 10:11PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1311045248521510912?s=21

Prime time at the moment

Hard to beat an intellectual heavyweight with nonsense.

Easy watching

dubdaymo · 29-09-2020 10:11PM

McConkey and NPHET blown out of the water. Finally, the voice of reason and common sense is allowed to be heard. We need more of this.

patnor1011 · 29-09-2020 10:13PM

average_runner wrote: »

I couldn't care less what the youth do, Covid has allowed me to get on with a higher quality of life.

I fear for other people though.

You are in minority then. Majority of people have considerable worse quality of life and for quite a lot of people quality of life went catastrophic actually.
Nice to see you doing allright.

Dickie10 · 29-09-2020 10:18PM

McConkey wanted the ground to open up and swallow him up! the faces he was making reminded me of Alan Partridge. Lads McCongey was pulling Faroe Islands, Geurnsey and Greenland out of the bag when talking about zero covid. Now I think that says it all.

normanoffside · 29-09-2020 10:18PM

road_high wrote: »

Not watching these days much but must watch this on +1!

I Only saw the last 5 Minutes (Thanks Cruel Summer) but by the end McConkey had been reduced to whimpering, he was almost apologising to Feeley.
He's like a person that has never faced opposition before hearing an opposing point of view for the first time.

bush · 29-09-2020 10:21PM

He got owned. Can't believe that guy lost his job for having his own opinion.

patnor1011 · 29-09-2020 10:23PM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Wow. You are one of the most self righteous sanctimonious posters I’ve ever seen on Boards. Tripping over yourself in a frenzy to show how caring of other people you are. You couldn’t care less about anyone or anything but yourself.

That guy is a troll. He doesnt come here because he has something to say but because he has to say something.

LessOutragePlz · 29-09-2020 10:24PM

bush wrote: »

He got owned. Can't believe that guy lost his job for having his own opinion.

That's how the cookie crumbles I'm afraid, go against the narrative and you're branded a crazy lunatic that wants to kill all the old and vulnerable people.

Plenty of well qualified experts out there, that share his views but they're given no media coverage because hope and good news isn't on the agenda these days it's all about the doom & and gloom and the dark winter that we're facing into.

walus · 29-09-2020 10:24PM

normanoffside wrote: »

This guy is a hero. McConkey is completely speechless.

Totally. Theory 0 : practice 1.

3xh · 29-09-2020 10:31PM

I’ve missed that debate. I’m actually surprised RTÉ had Dr. Feeney on. But I’m delighted to hear snippets here of how well Dr. Feeney made his points.

That guy McConkey has been way too public the past few months.

I honestly think I can see a more vocal, reasoned shift here alone towards a relaxation of Covid stuff and together with news of this debate with Dr. Feeney, today’s Oireachtas proceedings with Michael McNamara TD calling out the PCR tests and the construct of the hospitalisation figures hopefully we can begin to see a drastic toning down of NPHET and Government rhetoric that the next 2 weeks are critical etc

The past 2 months have been ridiculous regarding case reporting.

road_high · 29-09-2020 10:37PM

bush wrote: »

He got owned. Can't believe that guy lost his job for having his own opinion.

See Nphet and their fellow travellers have been in a bubble for the past 8 months- no one questioning them whatsoever so it’s probably not surprising when challenged the emperors is found with no clothes

walus · 29-09-2020 10:44PM

road_high wrote: »

See Nphet and their fellow travellers have been in a bubble for the past 8 months- no one questioning them whatsoever so it’s probably not surprising when challenged the emperors is found with no clothes

True. But worst of all this bunch of theorists still think they can eradicate the virus. By Christmas! That is the current strategy me thinks. Madness. Lunacy.

road_high · 29-09-2020 10:48PM

That new Primetime presenter is terrible but perfect for Rte and the times we are in where the script is followed to the letter

road_high · 29-09-2020 10:52PM

The PC snowflakes won’t like the fact Dr Feeley spelled out obesity and Covid!!

Quantum Erasure · 29-09-2020 10:58PM

road_high wrote: »

The PC snowflakes won’t like the fact Dr Feeley spelled out obesity and Covid!!

Health and safety gone mad, I tell you

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - Read OP for Mod Warnings