Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

froog wrote: »

Didnt you get the memo, its restaurants driving this, not the schools.

ixoy wrote: »

In April, you had to have multiple symptoms to get tested. Younger people are much more likely to have milder symptoms so they weren't being tested in April whereas now it's much easier to get tested (there were a lot more than 4k cases in April). We don't have a true number in most age groups to compare against April but even more so with those less at risk.

OscarMIlde wrote: »

Yup, was supposed to be off work today, had to pop in for an hour. 5 twenty year olds sitting on the top deck of the bus (not together), every single one if them is sporting their mask under their chin. Even if they are not personally worried about getting it, they should have some concern about contributing to community spread. I'm actually astounded how selfish many of them are. These are clearly middle class kids so they know the consequences of their actions.

seamus wrote: »

but why are we not seeing a huge surges of cases in schools?

eagle eye wrote: »

I have playdates with other families who are not sending their kids to school and are staying safe.
I'm trusting that they are not taking shortcuts or anything like that.
I understand the advice given and I think you need to use common sense along with it.
When there was a 2km rule I didn't abide by it because it was much safer for me to drive 6km to a secluded area and walk my dogs, and kids, rather than walk around an urban area where you'd be meeting other families with kids and no control over what they would do.
If it comes across as me being smug or arrogant that's not what I'm like and if you knew me you'd know that. I'm a very sociable guy and love to chat. Having said that I don't go many places to visit unless it's to do with the kids or my family. I've lots of work at home to keep me busy.
I'm handy at math and I'm reading so much about this virus and keeping up to date on it. I read a lot of rubbish and I understand there are many agendas out there so I digest everything I read and decide what's rubbish and what's not. For example somebody saying that well haveva bunch mire deaths in old folks homes and care facilities seems ridiculous to me as we have already been there and learned what not to do. My position is that I try to make sensible decisions for the long term.
I'm of the opinion that this virus is still too young and we don't know enough about it. Scientists and medical professionals have not explained to this point why some people are having organ trouble when they contract it, same with kids and pims, same with the extreme lethargy problem.
When you haven't all the information to make a good decision I stay back and wait.
There's a real possibility that we'll have a vaccine early next year. I'm willing to wait it out until then. As I said money is secondary to my family's health.
As for my financial position, I'm not in a bad place but I don't have a big bank balance or extra property. One of my targets is to purchase a second property as an investment so there's money there for my kids when I'm gone.
I'm fully invested in getting my kids to adulthood, healthy, educated and well rounded. If I succeed in that I'll be very happy.

US2 wrote: »

I think OwlBethere hinted at this last week that girls who go out for a drink are spreading covid and many more diseases

OscarMIlde wrote: »

No, of course I'm not. I'm just highlighting that ignorance clearly wasn't the reason for them not wearing their masks.

Deleted User wrote: »

Very handy chart - look how stable the rates in the young are since August

caveat emptor wrote: »

Germany are a little ahead of us regarding schools. Seems to be ok for now but it is worrying some officials there.

https://twitter.com/News4teachers/status/1310539053499113474?s=20




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Ger Roe wrote: »

You speak sense, but we do not have the organisational ability to do what you suggest.

I have had experience of Ipad introduction in my child's secondary school - a half arsed and overly expensive implementation driven by the school itself, because of lack of guidance and commitment from the Dept. It was a total financial rip off for parents using a mish mash of existing services and various commercial platforms cobbled together by the school wood work teacher to promote a vanity project for the board of management. I attended the mandatory 'training' session for use of the Ipad (cost €50) and the first thing the kids were told to do, was to lie about their age so that they were old enough to sign up for the cloud storage service required to operate the system. Imagine... lesson one of internet usage - lie about your age to obtain services.

The Dept needed to get a grip on the introduction of tech well before Covid. There should have been national standards and operating procedures rolled out with deals done at national level to provide standard approved equipment, infrastructure and resources. Schools are literally left to their own devices and the dept stays out of the picture.

Half arsed doesn't begin to describe it. We are not starting from a good place in trying to implement a brave new world of remote teaching - not at secondary level anyway.

Note : cost of the training session was €50. The Ipad had to be bought at full price from a single supplier who then knobbled it with their own software to restrict it's use to their educational platforms only. You had to use a new Ipad, no previously owned units were acceptable or no other devices (laptop, other brand tablet). The full cost of the implementation was in excess of €800 per head as opposed to a €75 book hire scheme that had operated previously - with parents being told to approach the local credit union for help with finance.