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Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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  • #2942
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Renjit wrote: »
    Talk about it when we reach 10k per day because that would be equivalent of what we had in summer. Think about it.

    This so very obvious and simple reality is constantly ignored. In January and February unknowingly coronavirus levels were building in Ireland and our testing was very low. By March real case numbers were very high compared to now, yes maybe 20 times higher, thus in April we could have a week with 300 plus deaths while apparently having similar case numbers to now.
    We have not had 35000 cases. We have had a peaked wave with more than 200000 but still not a huge percentage of us were infected. I do not understand how people cannot see this.


  • #2943
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,841 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Guillain-Barré syndrome perhaps? Can happen at any age as an immune reaction, and especially a novel viral illness like Covid can trigger these things, at any age.

    If his tweet makes the young realise it can happen them too so stop the parties, large gatherings, sessions and raves etc., it is a good thing imho

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #2944
    Stormyteacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Would you be sent to hospital by ambulance for a panic attack?

    Most definitely, if it’s prolonged especially. If you can’t breathe properly you need medical attention regardless of cause.


  • #2945
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,775 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Looking at his tweets, he is an FG bot

    I've been accused on being a FG bot on twitter because I had the audacity of tweeting something that agreed with the FG govt at the time.

    Its a juvenile way to shut down debate to accuse someone of being a bot. I don't understand why people just want to hear from those that agree with them.


  • #2946
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,375 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    If his tweet makes the young realise it can happen them too so stop the parties, large gatherings, sessions and raves etc., it is a good thing imho

    But it won't make the young realise,how many will see that tweet and say ok I am going to no party for the next six months and reduce my social interactions?


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  • #2947
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/breakingnewsie/status/1310312011482296320?s=20


  • #2948
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I've been accused on being a FG bot on twitter because I had the audacity of tweeting something that agreed with the FG govt at the time.

    Its a juvenile way to shut down debate to accuse someone of being a bot. I don't understand why people just want to hear from those that agree with them.

    You must be new here.


  • #2949
    screamer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭screamer


    Perhaps that chap asked someone to type the twitter post for him...... think outside the box sometimes people


  • #2950
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    robbiezero wrote: »
    Didn't a load of them come back to fight the virus?

    If they were not specially ICU qualified they would still need 6 months training before they could make a difference to the ICU deficit. As HSE are opening ICU beds now they have clearly succeeded in staffing the beds with appropriately trained and qualified nurses.


  • #2951
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    screamer wrote: »
    Perhaps that chap asked someone to type the twitter post for him...... think outside the box sometimes people

    No the Gregory House level medical geniuses on boards have decided it doesn't add up. Fake news.


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  • #2952
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    screamer wrote: »
    Perhaps that chap asked someone to type the twitter post for him...... think outside the box sometimes people

    No, he's been tweeting a photo of himself with the hospital gown on. :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/benquigley00/status/1310308303784865794?s=20


  • #2953
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    No, he's been tweeting a photo of himself with the hospital gown on. :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/benquigley00/status/1310308303784865794?s=20

    Unfortunate penis finger angle


  • #2954
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Stormyteacup wrote: »
    So in six months we have about 30 more beds in ICU?

    HSE administration should hang their head in shame. Seems they’re good to send the frontliners into battle again this winter. Sure why not - their salaries and pensions remain unaffected and they won’t have the moral dilemma of threatening a strike while faced with seriously ill people in need of medical attention.

    System rotten for a long time - opportunity now for someone with some humanity to overhaul the whole thing. Am not optimistic.

    Lack of suitably qualified drs and nurses; takes 6 nurses to each ICU bed. Stop our trained nurses going overseas as soon as they are qualified; make it a condition that they serve even 3 years in the country that trained them?

    You cannot run ICU beds without the right staff.


  • #2955
    Stormyteacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Lack of suitably qualified drs and nurses; takes 6 nurses to each ICU bed. Stop our trained nurses going overseas as soon as they are qualified; make it a condition that they serve even 3 years in the country that trained them?

    You cannot run ICU beds without the right staff.

    Yes need suitably qualified staff of course. But we had 73,000 people answer on-call for Ireland’,any could have started training in March. In the UK they’ve implemented a buddy system while nurses get experience in ICU.

    How did we have the surge capacity in May?

    How can other EU countries have doubled their capacity in the same time?


  • #2956
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Lack of suitably qualified drs and nurses; takes 6 nurses to each ICU bed. Stop our trained nurses going overseas as soon as they are qualified; make it a condition that they serve even 3 years in the country that trained them?

    You cannot run ICU beds without the right staff.

    Stop 'our' trained nurses going abroad? Do you want to apply that to all graduates in all fields or just as a covid measure.

    I don't think, by the sounds of it, that you have worked in this field in this country


  • #2957
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    CiarraiManc wrote: »
    You must be new here.

    Says the person who's only here a couple of weeks? Or have you been here longer.......


  • #2958
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,237 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    KaneToad wrote: »
    I've been accused on being a FG bot on twitter because I had the audacity of tweeting something that agreed with the FG govt at the time.

    Its a juvenile way to shut down debate to accuse someone of being a bot. I don't understand why people just want to hear from those that agree with them.

    Look at his tweets and replies, he is basically just retweeting and liking FG tweets and attacking everything SF do or say.
    It's known that FG have a paid social media team.


  • #2959
    phormium
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,485 ✭✭✭phormium


    Was listening to a nurse on radio the other day who answered 'the call', came home from Australia April/May, still waiting for the actual call to a job, doing temp agency work to get by! One of many based on the numbers quoted.


  • #2960
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,841 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Guillain-Barré syndrome perhaps? Can happen at any age as an immune reaction, and especially a novel viral illness like Covid can trigger these things, at any age.

    No one is safe, take notice and stay safe, protect yourself and others

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #2961
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,954 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Nice to see ya posting again Graces7, haven't heard from you in a while, hope your keeping well on the island. :)

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #2962
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    phormium wrote: »
    Was listening to a nurse on radio the other day who answered 'the call', came home from Australia April/May, still waiting for the actual call to a job, doing temp agency work to get by! One of many based on the numbers quoted.

    Could need re registration with the Nurses Board or whatever it is called now, and also may not be a Union member.

    The HSE is hamstrung because of Unions. Private hospitals can run their diagnostics day and night wonder why that doesn't happen (apart from A+E stuff) in the HSE hospitals. Well we all know the answer.

    Something has to give here, and I am very disappointed that Unions are not stepping up to the plate to help this country in their time of need. Of course Union members need to give their heads a wobble too, but that won't happen either.

    Not happy at all, and nothing will change. Trolleywatch will be the next big ticket item. But why is that happening at all? I do realise that there is a shortage of beds however, as others have said the Summer was the time to get the ducks in a row there. Paul Reid I am looking at you. But I doubt anything will ever change no matter who is in charge.

    The consultants and the Unions run the Health Service for their own ends, but it should be for the good of everyone. And clap away for all I care, I know they are doing a great job, but the test will be over the Winter. We shall soon see if they are prepared to break out of their Unionised straightjackets then.

    But the blame is always laid at the door of Government for lack of funding. No, it is lack of judicial and effective use of the funding they have.


  • #2963
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,841 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1310151558018093057?s=20

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #2964
    Stormyteacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Look at his tweets and replies, he is basically just retweeting and liking FG tweets and attacking everything SF do or say.
    It's known that FG have a paid social media team.

    Yes and now they’ll have an ‘influencer’ team to appeal to young people to rein themselves in. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the government using this tactic? Seems a bit sinister to pay popular influencers to deliver a government message though social media. Will those being influenced be fully aware of government sponsorship? If yes, then fair enough you make your own choices but if it’s painted as influencers own opinion surely that could be unethical?


  • #2965
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,268 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1310151558018093057?s=20

    Pity the HSE didnt answer the call to arms and get their act together while they had time .


  • #2966
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Stormyteacup wrote: »
    Yes and now they’ll have an ‘influencer’ team to appeal to young people to rein themselves in. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the government using this tactic? Seems a bit sinister to pay popular influencers to deliver a government message though social media. Will those being influenced be fully aware of government sponsorship? If yes, then fair enough you make your own choices but if it’s painted as influencers own opinion surely that could be unethical?

    How much "influence" would a fella with 727 followers have :pac:


  • #2967
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Stormyteacup wrote: »
    Yes and now they’ll have an ‘influencer’ team to appeal to young people to rein themselves in. Is anyone else uncomfortable with the government using this tactic? Seems a bit sinister to pay popular influencers to deliver a government message though social media. Will those being influenced be fully aware of government sponsorship? If yes, then fair enough you make your own choices but if it’s painted as influencers own opinion surely that could be unethical?

    Governments have always done things like that. Social media just makes it way cheaper and way easier than the old ‘methods’.


  • #2968
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    petes wrote: »
    Says the person who's only here a couple of weeks? Or have you been here longer.......

    And you were never a new user. :rolleyes:


  • #2969
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    No, he's been tweeting a photo of himself with the hospital gown on. :rolleyes:

    https://twitter.com/benquigley00/status/1310308303784865794?s=20

    Waiting for all of the boards.ie medical experts to say, he was faking because he's shown taking a selfie of himself instead of being on deaths door. Yet if he posted a selfie wearing an oxygen mask, he wouldn't be recognised and people here would claim its a stock picture from the net.


  • #2970
    Beanybabog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    phormium wrote: »
    Was listening to a nurse on radio the other day who answered 'the call', came home from Australia April/May, still waiting for the actual call to a job, doing temp agency work to get by! One of many based on the numbers quoted.

    I was listening to Donnelly on the radio and he was asked about it. Fudged the answer about the staff who came home and didn’t get jobs, blamed recruitment processes and red tape, and claimed the the HsE winter plan included the biggest recruitment drive ever etc.... eh why is that in the new plan, shouldn’t this have all been done months ago??


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  • #2971
    Stormyteacup
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Could need re registration with the Nurses Board or whatever it is called now, and also may not be a Union member.

    The HSE is hamstrung because of Unions. Private hospitals can run their diagnostics day and night wonder why that doesn't happen (apart from A+E stuff) in the HSE hospitals. Well we all know the answer.

    Something has to give here, and I am very disappointed that Unions are not stepping up to the plate to help this country in their time of need. Of course Union members need to give their heads a wobble too, but that won't happen either.

    Not happy at all, and nothing will change. Trolleywatch will be the next big ticket item. But why is that happening at all? I do realise that there is a shortage of beds however, as others have said the Summer was the time to get the ducks in a row there. Paul Reid I am looking at you. But I doubt anything will ever change no matter who is in charge.

    The consultants and the Unions run the Health Service for their own ends, but it should be for the good of everyone. And clap away for all I care, I know they are doing a great job, but the test will be over the Winter. We shall soon see if they are prepared to break out of their Unionised straightjackets then.

    But the blame is always laid at the door of Government for lack of funding. No, it is lack of judicial and effective use of the funding they have.

    Can’t help put think if they took over the private hospitals with a stroke of a pen and shut businesses down and made a law to keep everyone 2k/5k from their home because of ‘pandemic’, they could have tackled the unions head on and told them to take a back seat while they sorted out the health system.

    In other industries when Covid came along your contact was paused or ceased effectively, or changed with a little basic courtesy of notification, or not.

    Why not provide an attractive package for 1,000 extra ICU nurses. That would be money well spent and a fraction of what has been spent on paying people to stay home for months.


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