Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Again depends what you classify as young. Under 44 is what the Dept of Health mention in daily reports.

The increase in older has been flagged going back the last few weeks. Threefold was mentioned by Prof Nolan

I'm in my mid-40's. I have long since accepted that I am not a "young person" in the colloquial sense the word. Perhaps a "young person" is everyone who is not considered "elderly". If so, that's a relief. Why is there no "middle aged person" definition?

And can we stop the "young people" bashing for five minutes? A third of the working population continued to work even in the worst part of the lockdown. Those people were mostly 20-somethings, working in warehouses and supermarkets and shops and takeaways and factories and delivery vans etc. My cousin works in a bank call centre, and continued to travel into work every day on public transport, with her employer not making a jot of effort to separate desks or impose any kind of changes to minimise her chances of catching the virus. She rents a three bed house with four flatmates, three of whom were also continuing to work outside the house every day.

If that's her life, where she and her peer group are exposed to the virus way more than us comfortable WFH-ers, is it any wonder that them meeting up with their friends in a pub on a Friday night doesn't seem like it's vastly increasing their risks of catching the virus?

CiarraiManc wrote: »

Do you see the death rate going up or down? Across Europe now not just here.

Oh, I see it going up as you can see from the figure I posted.

I'm not providing any evidence though to back up my claim of the figure I posted to put fear in to people.

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

6,874 people in trouble in just 24Hrs is concerning regardless of where it is.

Typical.

No idea of keeping things in context.

Long live hysteria.

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

6,874 people in trouble in just 24Hrs is concerning regardless of where it is.

It's trebled in 3 weeks.

It's going to get very high very fast if something isn't done soon.

TBF to them they have acknowledged it.

The UK could see 50,000 new coronavirus cases a day by mid-October without further action, the government's chief scientific adviser has warned.

The pubs are being forced to close at 10pm.

Now some people think that is overkill, but I think closing them at that time will significantly reduce the rate of growth.

:pac:

Zebra3 wrote: »

No, what people need is level heads.

Not to be subject to nutters posting random figures of deaths that they've no logic for.

What people need is to cop on!

This virus can't hurt if the transmission path is interrupted, people are giving it to people.

MD1990 wrote: »

Time for to go back to June,July model we had.

Need to accept schools cannot be kept open & do online learning.
Maybe let them in one day a week for outside PE class.

I just heard about a special school in Cork that has 6 cases, army was meant to come in and test staff and pupils but never showed up. HSE came eventually, must be difficult when dealing with special needs kids.

Zebra3 wrote: »

I fully expect to see 50,000 deaths a day.

I have no evidence to back my claim up.

Reminds me of the letter in the Telegraph earlier in the week:

“Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Adviser to the Government, tells us the epidemic is doubling every seven days. Thus, he calculates – somewhat frighteningly – that we will have 50,000 new infections a day by mid-October and 200 deaths a day a couple of weeks later. Applying exactly the same method, the entire population will have had COVID-19 and 11.5 million of us will be dead before Christmas Day. Shortly after New Year’s Day, all human life in the United Kingdom will have ended. Merry Christmas, everyone.”

joe40 wrote: »

I understand the restrictions and respect the rules, but I also believe they cannot be maintained for the long term, ie 2 to 3 years.
Will we eventually as a society both nationally and at a European/global level have to lower restrictions with the resulting increase in cases.
This is just a personal opinion but I can see restrictions been largely accepted until after Christmas into the new year. But once this rolls into the second year of covid-19 restrictions it will become much harder to enforce.
Obviously I could be wrong that is just my sense of things.

I think the attitude will change once people again realize how bad the virus is. When deaths surge again throughout Europe fear will make a high proportion of people adhere to the rules again. Seeing hospitals being overrun and its implications will meana shift in mindset for many. People at the moment are not thinking logically . Post lockdown fatigue has taken a toll on younger people especially while economic hardship for older has lead to illogical decisions by many

MD1990 wrote: »

Schools should get a grant for some families who cant afford a laptop or internet.

Some children could go over to a classmates house to learn if necessary.

Schools aren't even getting perspex screens, you expect them to get a couple of hundred laptops.

Yeah, we'll just have multiple households mixing for 8 hours a day..... How is that different to now???

What about kids who need SNAs? Do we have the assistant move in with them??

MD1990 wrote: »

Schools should get a grant for some families who cant afford a laptop or internet.

Some children could go over to a classmates house to learn if necessary.

Thought they were trying to reduce the amount of people visiting other households and you want classmates to go over to other class mate's houses?

caveat emptor wrote: »

That publican in Roscommon should be reprimanded.

Imagine that he was walking the streets of Elphin still, just yesterday.
Imagine that his wife is a teacher that actually went into work on the Monday after.