Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

Parabellum9 · 25-09-2020 12:29PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Taoiseach says NPHET may advise Govt on restrictions in cities such as Cork, Waterford, Limerick and Galway, where number of cases continues to rise

I would love to know why they keep name dropping Limerick in these - we are nowhere near other counties in the past week in terms of headline numbers.

JP Liz V1 · 25-09-2020 12:31PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

SD just on the radio & he's saying the Gov. have no intentions of increasing restrictions in those counties in the immediate future.

FF as usual no idea what the either is saying, what a government

25-09-2020 12:34PM

Boggles wrote: »

Ye are way over thinking it lads.

But that’s the point boggles, thinking is what is often absent. Growleaves is correct to say that what we each individually regard as common sense is in fact our intuition providing us with a subjective framework in which to view a situation. At that point, especially when faced with the opposite view point, we should not retreat to our entrenched positions, but actually engage with the alternate view. Question ourselves, seek to challenge whether when viewed objectively our position stands and try to construct a more empirical, objective framework on which to build our position.

And if all else fails, have a beer

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 12:35PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

you tell me

I don't follow what is happening in Scotland, since you posted the case numbers in a different country I thought you were trying to make a point. Is there an Irish international match taking place in Glasgow?

Duke of Url · 25-09-2020 12:35PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

On the basis I haven't seen them , I regretfully find myself unable to answer your question. Commonsense suggests I shouldn't guess.

0.01% would say that the Publican was lacking Common Sense.

99.99% would think he knew perfectly well he was required to self isolate and considering he was showing symptoms decided money was more important and fuck everyone else.

Happydays2020 · 25-09-2020 12:35PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Taoiseach says NPHET may advise Govt on restrictions in cities such as Cork, Waterford, Limerick and Galway, where number of cases continues to rise

Limerick?? He must be trying to annoy Will O’Dea.

Ficheall · 25-09-2020 12:36PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

He claims he was wasn't aware he had to restrict his movements. So as far as he was concerned rightly or wrongly he was not a danger.

More likely he's a lying turd. I do believe you posted many times about how you hated lies and dishonesty..

wadacrack · 25-09-2020 12:36PM

Universities really struggling in Scotland

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-54294655?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/scotland&link_location=live-reporting-story

Happydays2020 · 25-09-2020 12:37PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Taoiseach says NPHET may advise Govt on restrictions in cities such as Cork, Waterford, Limerick and Galway, where number of cases continues to rise

That does not make sense.

landofthetree · 25-09-2020 12:37PM

HSE stats last night show the number of #covid19ireland patients in hospital reaching triple digits - there were 102 confirmed admissions as of 8pm, the first time since June 10 that confirmed admissions were over 100.

Level 4 or 5 from late Oct to April IMO.

CruelSummer · 25-09-2020 12:37PM

Open letter from the medical professionals of Belgium calling for an end to the absolute draconian measures & lockdowns being imposed on populations. Provides plenty of information and reasoning as to why they have this view & other information re PCR testing + vaccine.
Will RTE or Irish media report this?

https://www.stress.org/open-letter-from-medical-doctors-and-health-professionals-to-all-belgian-authorities-and-all-belgian-media

Happydays2020 · 25-09-2020 12:38PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Taoiseach says NPHET may advise Govt on restrictions in cities such as Cork, Waterford, Limerick and Galway, where number of cases continues to rise

My fear is that this was not a plan but rather a toy to play with. Why is Limerick an issue?

growleaves · 25-09-2020 12:38PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But that’s the point boggles, thinking is what is often absent. Growleaves is correct to say that what we each individually regard as common sense is in fact our intuition providing us with a subjective framework in which to view a situation. At that point, especially when faced with the opposite view point, we should not retreat to our entrenched positions, but actually engage with the alternate view. Question ourselves, seek to challenge whether when viewed objectively our position stands and try to construct a more empirical, objective framework on which to build our position.

And if all else fails, have a beer

I don't think intuition is subjective..but discussing that would bring us into a debate on metaphysics and belongs on a different forum and I have to do my work atm.

Necro · 25-09-2020 12:39PM

Plumbthedepths wrote:

He claims he was wasn't aware he had to restrict his movements. So as far as he was concerned rightly or wrongly he was not a danger.

Has he been living on Mars for the past seven months or something?

Absolute spoofer of the highest order, prioritised making a few quid over public health. Like Berlin in Dublin his licence should be suspended

25-09-2020 12:40PM

landofthetree wrote: »

HSE stats last night show the number of #covid19ireland patients in hospital reaching triple digits - there were 102 confirmed admissions as of 8pm, the first time since June 10 that confirmed admissions were over 100.

Level 4 or 5 from late Oct to April IMO.

Unfortunately, I think it is needed. But I am very much on the fence.

Boggles · 25-09-2020 12:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

At that point, especially when faced with the opposite view point, we should not retreat to our entrenched positions, but actually engage with the alternate view.

For the 6th time.

I engaged with her alternative view.

I determined she was clearly talking out of her hole, I didn't come to that conclusion because you perceive I have some unwavering entrenched view.

What part of that is confusing you?

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 12:42PM

Ficheall wrote: »

More likely he's a lying turd. I do believe you posted many times about how you hated lies and dishonesty..

Do you believe he's a liar and what evidence have you?
I won't call a named person a liar on a public forum without evidence to back up my claim.

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 12:44PM

Necro wrote: »

Has he been living on Mars for the past seven months or something?

Absolute spoofer of the highest order, prioritised making a few quid over public health. Like Berlin in Dublin his licence should be suspended

His license will most likely be suspended for a month. A deep clean of the pub and a heartfelt apology to his neighbours and customers and life will resume for him.
What exactly would you like to happen to him?

Plumbthedepths · 25-09-2020 12:46PM

landofthetree wrote: »

HSE stats last night show the number of #covid19ireland patients in hospital reaching triple digits - there were 102 confirmed admissions as of 8pm, the first time since June 10 that confirmed admissions were over 100.

Level 4 or 5 from late Oct to April IMO.

Have you any idea what damage those level of restrictions will do to society and the economy for 6 months in the middle of Autumn /Winter.
Do you actually know what you are calling for?
94 in hospital now btw.

Necro · 25-09-2020 12:47PM

Plumbthedepths wrote:

His license will most likely be suspended for a month. A deep clean of the pub and a heartfelt apology to his neighbours and customers and life will resume for him. What exactly would you like to happen to him?

That's plenty, should be six months though imo.

eagle eye · 25-09-2020 12:53PM

Is there anywhere tracking the number of schools with cases?
I can't seem to find figures anywhere but based on the amount of reports I'm getting from friends it seems to be widespread.
I've got people telling me I was right to keep my kids at home now.

25-09-2020 12:54PM

Boggles wrote: »

For the 6th time.

I engaged with her alternative view.

I determined she was clearly talking out of her hole, I didn't come to that conclusion because you perceive I have some unwavering entrenched view.

What part of that is confusing you?

I had moved past that specific conversation and was speaking in the more general sense. And I do think I had a very similar conversation on Gupta with growleaves months ago on another thread where I essentially argued the she was talking out of her hole position in slightly more nuanced terms. But just because Gupta and the oxford teams conclusion may be wrong, does not mean we can dismiss all that they bring to the conversation. The oxford have huge experience and aspects of their message may offer better ways of managing this in the long run, even if the overall conclusion is wrong

Duke of Url · 25-09-2020 12:55PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

His license will most likely be suspended for a month. A deep clean of the pub and a heartfelt apology to his neighbours and customers and life will resume for him.
What exactly would you like to happen to him?

:pac:

More like a grovelling apology

Funsterdelux · 25-09-2020 12:56PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Is there anywhere tracking the number of schools with cases?
I can't seem to find figures anywhere but based on the amount of reports I'm getting from friends it seems to be widespread.
I've got people telling me I was right to keep my kids at home now.

"Shur they got it at home"

eagle eye · 25-09-2020 12:57PM

Boggles wrote:

He also claimed he knew nothing about a party going on his pub that he was actually at.
The claim is there was 60 people at it, he claimed only 20 around about 3 tables, all though he says he has CCTV footage showing only 60 people.
"Are those my feet"

And there's more, wife is a schoolteacher and apparently went teaching while he is as awaiting his test.

Funsterdelux · 25-09-2020 12:59PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

Open letter from the medical professionals of Belgium calling for an end to the absolute draconian measures & lockdowns being imposed on populations. Provides plenty of information and reasoning as to why they have this view & other information re PCR testing + vaccine.
Will RTE or Irish media report this?

https://www.stress.org/open-letter-from-medical-doctors-and-health-professionals-to-all-belgian-authorities-and-all-belgian-media

Why would they?

Maybe the Belguim media might.

xhomelezz · 25-09-2020 01:00PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Why would they?

Maybe the Belguim media might.

Did you read it? Doubt Belgium media will pay any attention to it.

KrustyUCC · 25-09-2020 01:02PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1309466968836263936

1 Donegal 148.2
2 Dublin 144.5
3 Louth 107.8
4 Waterford 86.9
5 Wicklow 74.4
6 Kildare 72.8
7 Roscommon 62
8 Offaly 59
9 Monaghan 53.8
10 Westmeath 49.6
11 Carlow 42.2
12 Cork 42.2
13 Clare 41.2
14 Laois 40.1
15 Galway 39.1
16 Meath 37.9
17 Limerick 35.9
18 Leitrim 34.3
19 Longford 31.8
20 Cavan 30.2
21 Mayo 29.1
22 Wexford 24
23 Kilkenny 22.2
24 Kerry 19
25 Sligo 18.3
26 Tipperary 15.7

US2 · 25-09-2020 01:03PM

On 2fm news there. A significant rise in cases or over 65s and a significant rise in "younger" people hospitalized. Why don't they just realease the ages of these people? My guess is it wouldn't be scary enough.

Boggles · 25-09-2020 01:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But just because Gupta and the oxford teams conclusion may be wrong, does not mean we can dismiss all that they bring to the conversation. The oxford have huge experience and aspects of their message may offer better ways of managing this in the long run, even if the overall conclusion is wrong

I disagree, I firmly think she knows her conclusions are wrong and are pushing them any, either because of lobby groups or ties to shady people or just because her ego won't let go.

Either way, it's nefarious and people like that should be roundly ignored IMHO, it's not like at this stage she is going to have a moment of clarity and get better.

Covid 19 Part XXIV-37,063 ROI (1,801 deaths) 12,886 NI (582 deaths) (02/10) Read OP

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