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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #9362
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Ficheall wrote: »
    That is true.


    However, some people need to go to the shops (delivery is not available everywhere, and not for everything), the dentist and the doctor. Those are the three that would force me to leave the house from time to time. There are undoubtedly other examples for other people.

    Go when the shop is quiet such as in the evening. Most doctors surgeries wil allow you wait in your car until it's your turn to see them.


  • #9363
    GT89
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Icantthinkof1 wrote: »
    Work

    No one forcing anyone to work


  • #9364
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Indeed some, but we need to look at the big picture here, Guardian are just jumping at anything the big bad orange bufoon says ... they need to give it a rest.

    The US would be in the same position whoever was president.

    Nope


  • #9365
    Icantthinkof1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭Icantthinkof1


    GT89 wrote: »
    No one forcing anyone to work

    Really?! So we should all just pack it in so and go on the dole?


  • #9366
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Bojo coming out saying the restrictions just announced will likely last 6 months!
    That's terrible for them but hopefully it works.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1308376769934880769?s=20


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  • #9367
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,307 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    UK determined to make the wrong calls wherever possible.


  • #9368
    rovers_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Icu will be at capacity within 2 weeks.
    No deal forthcoming with private hospitals, are the Govt starting the poor mouth today in the lead up to the eventual bail out by private hospitals?

    I found it hard to find this icu capacity information last week but in the last 24hrs it's everywhere.
    In the 20s in terms of free beds at the moment. Won't be long till level 5.


  • #9369
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    96fm radio in Cork just reported a care home outbreak in Montenotte and at least 1 case in Penneys, Wilton


  • #9370
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    rovers_runner wrote: »
    Icu will be at capacity within 2 weeks.
    No deal forthcoming with private hospitals, are the Govt starting the poor mouth today in the lead up to the eventual bail out by private hospitals?

    I found it hard to find this icu capacity information last week but in the last 24hrs it's everywhere.
    In the 20s in terms of free beds at the moment. Won't be long till level 5.

    I heard an interview on the radio about a month ago and the HSE have a deal with the private hospitals
    They will take over the hospitals again if the need capacity


  • #9371
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Bojo coming out saying the restrictions just announced will likely last 6 months!
    That's terrible for them but hopefully it works.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1308376769934880769?s=20

    These same restrictions have been in place for almost 3 months in Leicester and have made little difference.
    The two chief expert advisers were wheeled out yesterday to scare the bejasus out of the population so that the announcement today wouldn’t seem too onerous.
    There was one sinister hint that the military could be used to “help the police”. Things are getting serious over there.


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  • #9372
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Bojo coming out saying the restrictions just announced will likely last 6 months!
    That's terrible for them but hopefully it works.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1308376769934880769?s=20

    Now that's real leadership. Being honest with people and let them be adults is half the battle.


  • #9373
    Oranage2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    96fm radio in Cork just reported a care home outbreak in Montenotte and at least 1 case in Penneys, Wilton

    #Lockdown Cork


  • #9374
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The “new” UK guidelines look exactly like ours, except they’re about 3 months late


  • #9375
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    rovers_runner wrote: »
    Icu will be at capacity within 2 weeks.
    No deal forthcoming with private hospitals, are the Govt starting the poor mouth today in the lead up to the eventual bail out by private hospitals?

    I found it hard to find this icu capacity information last week but in the last 24hrs it's everywhere.
    In the 20s in terms of free beds at the moment. Won't be long till level 5.

    I had forecast ICU's to be full by mid October. If it's two weeks time we really face a catastrophe situation :(


  • #9376
    2ndcoming
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    GT89 wrote: »
    Stay at home and you won't come across them

    Really, this is a ridiculous argument.

    Why should ordinary people doing their best to get on with their lives be the ones to suffer because a few jinits who watched too many Youtube videos think they know better than the entire world's health professionals.

    Get a grip.


  • #9377
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    UK determined to make the wrong calls wherever possible.

    Every country in Europe bar Sweden will be doing the same for the next 6 months.


  • #9378
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    I had forecast ICU's to be full by mid October. If it's two weeks time we really face a catastrophe situation :(

    Exactly. People think x number in ICU seems small. But they forget that ICU has to deal with other illnesses as well.

    It's a full lockdown from Oct to March coming up.


  • #9379
    rovers_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I heard an interview on the radio about a month ago and the HSE have a deal with the private hospitals
    They will take over the hospitals again if the need capacity

    They were playing hard ball at that stage, can't find and details about a definite agreement.
    Think they are in a panic now as they are going to be at a stage where its needed overnight and they dont have an arrangement.


  • #9380
    Pablo Escobar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Pablo Escobar


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    #Lockdown Cork

    Cork is still near the bottom of the charts despite a few big days. A few more though and it might look different. I think it’s inevitable that most places will lockdown again thought tbh.


  • #9381
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,044 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    landofthetree wrote: »
    It's a full lockdown from Oct to March coming up.
    You think the whole country is going to Level 5? Or do you mean Level 3?


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  • #9382
    Call me Al
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭Call me Al


    Has the HSE released information on the age profile of those currently being hospitalised/in ICU?


  • #9383
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    ixoy wrote: »
    You think the whole country is going to Level 5? Or do you mean Level 3?

    Level 3.14573?


  • #9384
    rovers_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    I had forecast ICU's to be full by mid October. If it's two weeks time we really face a catastrophe situation :(

    At the end of the day this is what a 3rd World health system leaves you with,choices who lives and dies or the begging bowl to private enterprise to help.

    We weren't being cautious for the sake of being smart, hse and Govt know there is a point where icu capacity and Govt finances go off a cliff and we aren't far away from there again for a second time this year.


  • #9385
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    Cork is still near the bottom of the charts despite a few big days. A few more though and it might look different. I think it’s inevitable that most places will lockdown again thought tbh.

    Yeah I feel this too. I'm I just being over pessimistic?!

    Like it seems silly that Cork is planning pints with the lads all day this weekend with a nice early start United game to kick the day off.

    I really don't see the pubs lasting long.


  • #9386
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,406 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    landofthetree wrote: »
    It's a full lockdown from Oct to March coming up.


    When the virus was running rampant in early March and had spread to God knows how many people there was a lockdown for about 2 months.

    Considering the amount of testing we're doing now as well as what we know about the virus why in God's name would we need a lockdown 3 times as long this time?


  • #9387
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    These same restrictions have been in place for almost 3 months in Leicester and have made little difference.
    The two chief expert advisers were wheeled out yesterday to scare the bejasus out of the population so that the announcement today wouldn’t seem too onerous.
    There was one sinister hint that the military could be used to “help the police”. Things are getting serious over there.

    One person isn't happy. Wonder if it'll be enough to contain it. Their test and trace has fallen over.

    https://twitter.com/PeterGrayo13/status/1308376150591377408?s=20


  • #9388
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    El Sueño wrote: »
    When the virus was running rampant in early March and had spread to God knows how many people there was a lockdown for about 2 months.

    Considering the amount of testing we're doing now as well as what we know about the virus why in God's name would we need a lockdown 3 times as long this time?


    Because people use this thread for hysterical venting and projection.


  • #9389
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    rovers_runner wrote: »
    At the end of the day this is what a 3rd World health system leaves you with,choices who lives and dies or the begging bowl to private enterprise to help.

    We weren't being cautious for the sake of being smart, hse and Govt know there is a point where icu capacity and Govt finances go off a cliff and we aren't far away from there again for a second time this year.

    3rd world health system? Ireland has the 16th highest life expectancy in the world, and we have improved dramatically over the last 20 years. There's a lot of spoofing about our health system on here, based on various anecdotes and dodgy stats. The only way to properly measure it is outcomes. Our health system delivers good outcomes by any international standard. There is, of course, plenty of room for improvement.


  • #9390
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Exactly. People think x number in ICU seems small. But they forget that ICU has to deal with other illnesses as well.

    It's a full lockdown from Oct to March coming up.

    Yeah looks increasingly that way. I had hoped people in general would hold the line but it looks like many have just given in. :(


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  • #9391
    rovers_runner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    3rd world health system? Ireland has the 16th highest life expectancy in the world, and we have improved dramatically over the last 20 years. There's a lot of spoofing about our health system on here, based on various anecdotes and dodgy stats. The only way to properly measure it is outcomes. Our health system delivers good outcomes by any international standard. There is, of course, plenty of room for improvement.

    I'm not for one minute critical of the workers in the hospitals or care centres, they are the ones who deliver the care and results.
    The problem is with planning and resources and decisions on where to allocate funding.


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