Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

hetuzozaho · 22-09-2020 12:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Think you like bad news me thinks.

Think you are getting a bit personal with him.

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:06PM

Record case numbers worldwide last week.
But, deaths decreased by 10% on the previous week. The Americas deaths were down by 22% and Africa by 15%.

https://www.barrons.com/amp/news/world-sees-record-weekly-number-of-covid-19-cases-deaths-down-who-01600764904#click=https://t.co/CVdPhYOHNB

22-09-2020 12:06PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

What do you think happened? The virus just suddenly decided to stop spreading or rapidly changed?

It's obviously a mix of reporting changes with a dash of restrictions on top?

There's nothing else it could be unfortunately.

Won't be replying to you anymore. This is my last reply.

Boggles · 22-09-2020 12:07PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Getting abit personal. Think you like bad news me thinks.

No I like accurate news, facts they used be called.

But you keep on trucking, marvelous!

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:09PM

Mad you can literally guess who’s going to be offended when ya post something on this

Widdensushi · 22-09-2020 12:09PM

Boggles wrote: »

No I like accurate news, facts they used be called.

But you keep on trucking, marvelous!

Where are the facts that show covid cases in Spain are increasing?

Boggles · 22-09-2020 12:11PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Where are the facts that show covid cases in Spain are increasing?

Where did I claim that as a fact?

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:15PM

Based on data from the CEBM many scientists believe that Spain’s numbers are in fact relatively stable or decreasing, due to the way in which they report cases being flawed.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/is-covid-really-rising-in-spain-a-look-at-the-data

RebelButtMunch · 22-09-2020 12:21PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Of course extra restrictions. Might not be reason. Who knows?

Data are provisional and subject to change. From Sept. 16 onward, figures for daily new cases only include cases already validated by the Ministry of Health in the daily PDF report. Since the validation process takes time to complete, additional cases are expected to be added retroactively once the weekly historical dataset revision is released by the Ministry of Health on Friday, Sept. 25. Data up to Sept. 15 reflects the latest release of the official "Historical Series of Cases by Autonomous Community" dataset released by the Ministry of Health. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/spain/

MerlinSouthDub · 22-09-2020 12:22PM

From the dashboard, I see that ICU cases are down 1 to 16 this morning (1 discharge). I'm not sure why Paul Reid was tweeting about 19 ICU cases last night.

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:24PM

Latest epidemic graph from the CEBM for Spain:

And England:

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/epidemic-curves-organised-by-reporting-date-and-specimen-date/

mandrake04 · 22-09-2020 12:25PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

If you look at the southern hemispheres incident of flu in their winter just past, it was at practically zero - probably due to hand washing and social distancing, I doubt flu will be an issue in the northern hemisphere winter.

Partially social distancing.

But most countries had travel restrictions in place end of March and April so there was less international movements, that's usually the time when the flu gets established in the southern hemisphere.

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:25PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

From the dashboard, I see that ICU cases are down 1 to 16 this morning (1 discharge). I'm not sure why Paul Reid was tweeting about 19 ICU cases last night.

I don’t think it reached 19 at any point yesterday tbh

MerlinSouthDub · 22-09-2020 12:27PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I don’t think it reached 19 at any point yesterday tbh

Agreed - it was 17 at 6.30 pm and 16 at 11.00 this morning.

GT89 · 22-09-2020 12:28PM

OscarMIlde wrote: »

A 24 year old cousin of someone I know endes up in ICU in a coma due to covid 19 earlier this year. He was apparently very fit, used to run regularly. No known underlying conditions. Granted his is a rare case, but some young people are struck very hard by this.

Notwithstanding that, anyone over 70 is at very high risk from this, and that is not an old age. My mother is in her 70s, is regularly digging up her allotment and swims and cycles. There are many like her who have a decade or two at least of life yet who could be seriously affected by covid 19. I cannot get over the absolute selfish gall of people who think congregating in pubs and the freedom to not wear a mask is more important than the lives of a significant proportion of our population.

We are not living in a police state. We can see friends as long as we are cautious to limit how many at once and how we meet. Shops, restaurants, and pubs are open, we just can't have quite the level of fun and abandonment in them as we did before this. We can get on a bus or train and head to the shopping centre or town, as long as you properly wear a mask.

If everyone used the freedoms we had responsibly there would be no need for lockdowns like Dublin.

But if people took responsibility for their own health they wouldn't get covid. You can't get covid if you stay in your home so for me it's very simple stay at home and stop whinging about large groups of people out and about without masks/social distancing.

Let people make their own decisions like adults not treat us like misbehaving school children. If people want to put themselves at risk that's entirely their own prerogative. But if you want to avoid catching it there are way. If there's a big group of people without masks/social distancing turn around and walk/drive away simple. If there's too many on a bus/train and some not wearing masks get off at the next stop. Simple really.

If people took more responsibility for themselves and stopped complaining about the actions of others there won't need to be another lockdown.

mandrake04 · 22-09-2020 12:31PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Yeah Melbourne cops are what we should look up to.

little SS thugs going around beating teenage girls up for not wearing a mask, kicking down people's door and aresting them (one of them a pregnant woman) for daring to express an anti lockdown sentiment on social media.

But the majority of Victorians support the cops in those actions, normal people are sick to the back teeth of retards.

What Username Guidelines · 22-09-2020 12:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Don’t even bother, it’s like talking to the wall.
If they don’t like what they see = “the study is flawed” “herd immunity, cant be true”
All we hear is but but but but. Not worth it.

Not worth having a discussion on a discussion forum when people have different opinions, eh?

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I don’t think it reached 19 at any point yesterday tbh

It didn't reach 19 at any of the reporting points, which is just a point in time, but why reject what the man in charge of the HSE is publishing?

Ficheall · 22-09-2020 12:35PM

GT89 wrote: »

But if people took responsibility for their own health they wouldn't get covid. You can't get covid if you stay in your home so for me it's very simple stay at home and stop whinging about large groups of people out and about without masks/social distancing.

Let people make their own decisions like adults not treat us like misbehaving school children. If people want to put themselves at risk that's entirely their own prerogative. But if you want to avoid catching it there are way. If there's a big group of people without masks/social distancing turn around and walk/drive away simple. If there's too many on a bus/train and some not wearing masks get off at the next stop. Simple really.

If people took more responsibility for themselves and stopped complaining about the actions of others there won't need to be another lockdown.

The more selfish f*ckwits there are though, the more difficult it is to avoid them.

22-09-2020 12:35PM

Boggles wrote: »

You're right, I should have thrown a few fictional characters in to make my opinion more valid.

Who makes up fictional characters Boggles? If you are going to make accusations you'd be better off just coming right out and say it rather than using snide insinuations

TonyMaloney · 22-09-2020 12:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Latest epidemic graph from the CEBM for Spain:

And England:

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/epidemic-curves-organised-by-reporting-date-and-specimen-date/

I'm not saying that article is incorrect, but it makes no mention of the following - which seems important.
You can see the same happen with our epi based cases charts

https://twitter.com/AdamJKucharski/status/1250392825201557504?s=20

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:38PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Not worth having a discussion on a discussion forum when people have different opinions, eh?

It didn't reach 19 at any of the reporting points, which is just a point in time, but why reject what the man in charge of the HSE is publishing?

He posted it an hour before the report came out. It didn’t drop from 19 to 17 at 10pm at night, with 0 deaths.

ACitizenErased · 22-09-2020 12:40PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Who makes up fictional characters Boggles? If you are going to make accusations you'd be better off just coming right out and say it rather than using snide insinuations

If someone posts an anecdote that doesn’t fit a certain narrative, it’s a lie. Kinda how things work around here.

stephenjmcd · 22-09-2020 12:41PM

Dublin South still below national average. Dublin North West still topping the Dublin charts
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308369120400941056?s=19

22-09-2020 12:42PM

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Not worth having a discussion on a discussion forum when people have different opinions, eh?

It didn't reach 19 at any of the reporting points, which is just a point in time, but why reject what the man in charge of the HSE is publishing?

Can't say I would trust as gospel what Paul Reid says.

He has been known during this pandemic to stretch the truth before or fudge certain statistics.

In this case I doubt he would want to but it is right to question. I don't think he has much medical background tbh.

Ficheall · 22-09-2020 12:43PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

If someone posts an anecdote that doesn’t fit a certain narrative, it’s a lie. Kinda how things work around here.

I presume you're not going to claim that isn't the case from both sides.

GT89 · 22-09-2020 12:47PM

Ficheall wrote: »

The more selfish f*ckwits there are though, the more difficult it is to avoid them.

Stay at home and you won't come across them

BringBackMick · 22-09-2020 12:49PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Dublin South still below national average. Dublin North West still topping the Dublin charts
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1308369120400941056?s=19

People in Dublin South are largely working from home with and will all have a personal vehicle

Similar trend in Madrid, as always the working classes take the brunt

is_that_so · 22-09-2020 12:50PM

Ficheall wrote: »

The more selfish f*ckwits there are though, the more difficult it is to avoid them.

Really not that hard if you plan your activity to avoid them. Most people, this cohort included, are still having a go at distancing.

Ficheall · 22-09-2020 12:51PM

GT89 wrote: »

Stay at home and you won't come across them

That is true.

However, some people need to go to the shops (delivery is not available everywhere, and not for everything), the dentist and the doctor. Those are the three that would force me to leave the house from time to time. There are undoubtedly other examples for other people.

Icantthinkof1 · 22-09-2020 12:56PM

Ficheall wrote: »

That is true.

However, some people need to go to the shops (delivery is not available everywhere, and not for everything), the dentist and the doctor. Those are the three that would force me to leave the house from time to time. There are undoubtedly other examples for other people.

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