Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

spookwoman · 21-09-2020 06:02PM

Non solum non ambulabit · 21-09-2020 06:03PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

Thank you where do I find the swab information and can I assume Sundays 274 figures and today’s 188 are in that 647 and leaves a balance unaccounted for?

Where are you getting 274 from?

Littleredcar · 21-09-2020 06:06PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Where are you getting 274 from?

Sorry 396 for Sunday
188 today total 584

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 06:06PM

CDC rowing back on..https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/21/cdc-says-it-erroneously-posted-guidance-that-said-coronavirus-spreads-through-air-and-and-travel-beyond-six-feet.html

inthenip · 21-09-2020 06:07PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Some counties cases are up today and some are down.

We might hit 10 cases tomorrow or we might hit 50,000 cases.

Did we turn into the United States with a population of 330 million or something?

21-09-2020 06:09PM

Necro wrote: »

Donegal looks in bother, I'd say they might be staring down the barrel of restrictions tbh.

Donegal has a very big influx of people from northern Ireland especially and other parts of the country during the summer months. The beaches are majority northern reg cars.

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 06:11PM

More reinfection. Worse second time around also.

https://twitter.com/chrishendel/status/1307380568963928075?s=21

The clinical, epidemiological, and sequencing data of this case suggest early re-infection with SARS- CoV-2, only 51 days after resolution of initial infection. Importantly, this was observed in a young immunocompetent patient. In contrast to the case reported by To et al., this second infection was more severe, potentially due to immune enhancement, acquisition of a more pathogenic strain, or perhaps a greater inoculum of infection as the second exposure was from within the household.

Humberto Salazar · 21-09-2020 06:13PM

188, downward trend starting.

21-09-2020 06:13PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More reinfection. Worse second time around also.

https://twitter.com/chrishendel/status/1307380568963928075?s=21

This disease reeks of military interference.

tobefrank321 · 21-09-2020 06:15PM

We know there is generally about a two week lag on average between new cases and deaths.

It would be interesting to see how many total cases there were for the month of August, and how many deaths there were from August 15th to September 15th. This would give a very rough case fatality rate.

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:15PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More reinfection. Worse second time around also.

https://twitter.com/chrishendel/status/1307380568963928075?s=21

Err this is one single patient

lawred2 · 21-09-2020 06:17PM

Bit too much coverage of people in pubs on our national news bulletin

Ffs

Jim_Hodge · 21-09-2020 06:18PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

We know there is generally about a two week lag on average between new cases and deaths.

It would be interesting to see how many total cases there were for the month of August, and how many deaths there were from August 15th to September 15th. This would give a very rough case mortality rate.

That two week lag is not typical. Typically patients may be in ICU for four or more weeks. Hospital numbers can have a two or three week lag but deaths can be even months later - not to mention the possible three month delay before deaths are registered and recorded.

Wombatman · 21-09-2020 06:18PM

Any source on reports that there will be travel restrictions introduced for travel to and from Northern Ireland now that NI has moved to level 4?

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:21PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That two week lag is not typical. Typically patients may be in ICU for four or more weeks. Hospital numbers can have a two or three week lag but deaths can be even months later - not to mention the possible three month delay before deaths are registered and recorded.

This has changed as you are ignoring the effect of signifcant advances in treating the virus , large scale intubation has now been credited with actually raising the death rate etc.

Goldrickssan · 21-09-2020 06:23PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Bit too much coverage of people in pubs on our national news bulletin

Ffs

Got to train the public to want to close them again

Jim_Hodge · 21-09-2020 06:25PM

BoatMad wrote: »

This has changed as you are ignoring the effect of signifcant advances in treating the virus , large scale intubation has now been credited with actually raising the death rate etc.

I'll bow to your superior medical knowledge. I'm just going on second hand information from my daughter and sister-in-law who are working in ICU with Covid patients.

MerlinSouthDub · 21-09-2020 06:26PM

BoatMad wrote: »

Err this is one single patient

And an immunocompromised patient at that.

Jinglejangle69 · 21-09-2020 06:28PM

What's the timeframe for cúntach tracing?

Know of someone who tested positive on Saturday and still haven't got a call.

But of a joke.

tobefrank321 · 21-09-2020 06:31PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That two week lag is not typical. Typically patients may be in ICU for four or more weeks. Hospital numbers can have a two or three week lag but deaths can be even months later - not to mention the possible three month delay before deaths are registered and recorded.

Which is why I said on average. Some people particurly elderly can die within days of a diagnoses.

21-09-2020 06:34PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Bit too much coverage of people in pubs on our national news bulletin

Ffs

It's always the way. RTÉ are very enthusiastic about telling us how great it is that something has opening and the interview goes something like...

"So is it great for you to be back to normality at long last? The whole community must be gathering to celebrate!"

And then a couple of weeks later everything changes and they wheel out the prophets of doom to tell us the closure could be seen coming from the outset.

tobefrank321 · 21-09-2020 06:35PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'll bow to your superior medical knowledge. I'm just going on second hand information from my daughter and sister-in-law who are working in ICU with Covid patients.

Average. Some can take 3-4 weeks to die. Some can die within days. As for deaths taking 3 months that happens in some cases but we know from the previous peak that the peak of deaths came a few weeks after the peak of cases.

ax530 · 21-09-2020 06:36PM

Donegal will get worse lots from NI have been visiting to socialise because of their own restrictions.
The testing system not as reliable in NI either with self administered tests.

21-09-2020 06:37PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

And an immunocompromised patient at that.

Immunocompetent not immunocompromised.

It is still not evidence that reinfection is going to be a very frequent event however. We would have loads of cases in Ireland alone if this was the case

21-09-2020 06:38PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

We know there is generally about a two week lag on average between new cases and deaths.

It would be interesting to see how many total cases there were for the month of August, and how many deaths there were from August 15th to September 15th. This would give a very rough case fatality rate.

20 days is the mean

BoatMad · 21-09-2020 06:38PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

I'll bow to your superior medical knowledge. I'm just going on second hand information from my daughter and sister-in-law who are working in ICU with Covid patients.

Not medical knowledge , merely reading the various medical reports on treatment and looking at current death rates compared to earlier in the cycle. We are not seeing deaths climb in the same proportion as cases were in the first wave
Oh and speaking to an ICU nurse in Ardkeen who says the restrictions are doing basically nothing

spookwoman · 21-09-2020 06:39PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Immunocompetent not immunocompromised.

It is still not evidence that reinfection is going to be a very frequent event however. We would have loads of cases in Ireland alone if this was the case

No way of knowing if reinfection has happened here when our testing was very low and the criteria was very high as the start

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 06:39PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

More reinfection. Worse second time around also.

https://twitter.com/chrishendel/status/1307380568963928075?s=21

Are these cases of reinfection still very small in numbers? How concerning is it? I haven't been keeping up to date with the topic. Thank you.

caveat emptor · 21-09-2020 06:39PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

And an immunocompromised patient at that.

Either you are a Liar or you can’t read. Which is it?

The clinical, epidemiological, and sequencing data of this case suggest early re-infection with SARS- CoV-2, only 51 days after resolution of initial infection. Importantly, this was observed in a young immunocompetent patient.

Happydays2020 · 21-09-2020 06:40PM

BoatMad wrote: »

Not medical knowledge , merely reading the various medical reports on treatment and looking at current death rates compared to earlier in the cycle. We are not seeing deaths climb in the same proportion as cases were in the first wave
Oh and speaking to an ICU nurse in Ardkeen who says the restrictions are doing basically nothing

Presumably the key fact is that many many cases were not detected.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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