Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 04:58PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I worked in a pharmacy up until February. Never seen so many sick people. Not sure if anyone here knows Bronchostop, the popular cough bottle, but it went out of circulation over Christmas, especially the kids version. May not have been COVID, may have been, but there was something very funky going around Cork from October on.
Not sure why you're disputing an opinion from nurses? Nobody said there was evidence. It's anecdotal.

There was definitely a bad bug season last winter and spring. Everyone was coughing, and it was the first time I got night sweats from a chest infection.

I'm still very skeptical it was covid though. Just a bad season.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 04:59PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

There was definitely a bad bug season last winter and spring. Everyone was coughing, and it was the first time I got night sweats from a chest infection.

I'm still very skeptical it was covid though. Just a bad season.

As I said, it's entirely anecdotal. Symptoms of whatever was going around late last year are almost identical to COVID, which is interesting.

is_that_so · 21-09-2020 05:00PM

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Jesus it’s unreal that grown ass adults can’t discuss different opinions without being jumped on.
Some believe the virus was here earlier than Feb; some don’t

De Gascun did say in March when we had 20K a day looking for tests that people had "other things". There are lots of viruses out there and quite a few with similar symptoms.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 05:01PM

Soldiers from many European countries took part the games in Wuhan last year, including our own.

http://iaba.ie/irish-army-deploy-bog-guns-world-military-games/

Non solum non ambulabit · 21-09-2020 05:01PM

Figures from UK today. Shows cases in under 10s are not growing as fast as the rest of the community. Reinforces that schools are not an issue for spread as these kids are mixing way more than everyone else yet they are not getting infected in anything like the numbers of older people, that are wearing masks and socially distancing.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:01PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Soldiers from many European countries took part the games in Wuhan last year, including our own.

http://iaba.ie/irish-army-deploy-bog-guns-world-military-games/

Christ you're asking for it now :pac::pac::pac::pac:

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 05:01PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

As I said, it's entirely anecdotal. Symptoms of whatever was going around late last year are almost identical to COVID, which is interesting.

Sure is. But I would think that a spike in ILI related deaths would be picked up on?

ixoy · 21-09-2020 05:02PM

My husband got a bad chest infection in February with a tightness in the chest and getting winded very quickly. If it happened in April I'd have probably freaked out. Instead though it got cleared down with a course of anti-biotics. GP had seen loads of people with it. If it was Covid-19 they missed a trick by not doing the anti-biotics since.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:03PM

ixoy wrote: »

My husband got a bad chest infection in February with a tightness in the chest and getting winded very quickly. If it happened in April I'd have probably freaked out. Instead though it got cleared down with a course of anti-biotics. GP had seen loads of people with it. If it was Covid-19 they missed a trick by not doing the anti-biotics since.

They're using steroids to treat people with COVID in hospitals now. I'm regularly administered steroids for chest infections. Not sure why they're not being prescribed?

Boggles · 21-09-2020 05:04PM

I'd say some of those nurses were shooting heroin in Croke Park in 2005.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:06PM

I see we're calling nurses and doctors liars now, drastic change of approach on the thread.

Plumbthedepths · 21-09-2020 05:07PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Christ you're asking for it now :pac::pac::pac::pac:

This too,

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1279838/china-coronavirus-news-covid-19-wuhan-military-world-games-uk-french-scientific-study

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:07PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

This too,

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1279838/china-coronavirus-news-covid-19-wuhan-military-world-games-uk-french-scientific-study

I have read a lot of stories about athletes returning sick from the Wuhan Games.

Arghus · 21-09-2020 05:08PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I see we're calling nurses and doctors liars now, drastic change of approach on the thread.

No, he's saying that in all likelihood, it being an anonymous Internet forum, that a few of these nurses don't exist.

Renjit · 21-09-2020 05:08PM

Let the kids and grown ups have some fun. Whats the problem?

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:09PM

Arghus wrote: »

No, he's saying that in all likelihood, it being an anonymous Internet forum, that a few of these nurses don't exist.

I can get you in contact with them if you wish. Walk through the front doors of the CUH, head to the A&E department and ask for... nevermind, I'm clearly lying, because I have loads of reasons to lie, of course.

screamer · 21-09-2020 05:10PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Sure is. But I would think that a spike in ILI related deaths would be picked up on?

Depends on the demographic that contracted it, as we’re seeing, the younger people are less affected. If it was here last Autumn that is. I have my doubts, although I do know that there were very bad flus on the go.

screamer · 21-09-2020 05:12PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Soldiers from many European countries took part the games in Wuhan last year, including our own.

http://iaba.ie/irish-army-deploy-bog-guns-world-military-games/

Ah the soldiers, Spanish flu something something

Piehead · 21-09-2020 05:13PM

Is it approaching 1,000 today?

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 05:13PM

screamer wrote: »

Depends on the demographic that contracted it, as we’re seeing, the younger people are less affected. If it was here last Autumn that is. I have my doubts, although I do know that there were very bad flus on the go.

Yeah... We will never know.

If anything, this year has really made me realise how fuzzy public health science is. It's the 21st century, and we can't make sense of what is happening right now.

rob316 · 21-09-2020 05:14PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

There was definitely a bad bug season last winter and spring. Everyone was coughing, and it was the first time I got night sweats from a chest infection.

I'm still very skeptical it was covid though. Just a bad season.

I had the worst "flu" I ever had on the 24th December. 6 days clung to the bed, hard to breath choking cough, temperature and couldn't walk to the bathroom unaided. Another week on the couch and about 2 more weeks before I felt back to normal and I'd be reasonably fit/active.
Guy working in the shop for us a week before, got a pretty bad respiratory illness, he still has problems from it. He asked the doctor recently was it Covid and he said possibly as they diagnosed clotting of the lungs but it the cause was inconclusive as he isn't someone who you would associate with clotting (he's very healthy, fit and doesn't smoke)

It would definitely be interesting if they could go back and test samples pre March.

podgeandrodge · 21-09-2020 05:14PM

Hurrache wrote: »

There's enough people on this forum alone who claim it's nothing to worry about until you're either old or have an underlying illness, they need a good slap about the face of the reality.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

That's probably because patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions.

fits wrote: »

Do you have any sense of what it must be like for people who have or had loved ones in ICU to read that?

Calm your outrage for a minute. :rolleyes:

Hurrache stated that many posters claim that Covid is "not something to worry about unless you're old or have an underlying illness".

I responded saying that this could be because "patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions".

I don't think that is debatable.

If you're worried about me posting that on boards, maybe warn people not to read the Irish Independent, just in case:

Irish Independent Sept 2020: "Patients in intensive care tend to be older and with underlying conditions" (Prof Philip Nolan).

21-09-2020 05:15PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They're using steroids to treat people with COVID in hospitals now. I'm regularly administered steroids for chest infections. Not sure why they're not being prescribed?

Some people with an asthmatic tendency are more prone to bronchial constriction during common chest infections, so a low dose oral steroid is often prescribed to keep the airways open and stop infection being trapped in the air spaces. I think Covid behaves differently and when steroids are prescribed it's for different type of pathological process.

political analyst · 21-09-2020 05:17PM

Obviously, there's no justification for what happened at the Oliver Bond flats. However, it probably wouldn't have happened at all if the 'wet pubs' and the nightclubs had been allowed to re-open weeks ago.

ACitizenErased · 21-09-2020 05:18PM

political analyst wrote: »

Obviously, there's no justification for what happened at the Oliver Bond flats. However, it probably wouldn't have happened at all if the 'wet pubs' and the nightclubs had been allowed to re-open weeks ago.

I don't think nightclubs opening would help anything tbh. Wet pubs on the other hands, yes.

JP Liz V1 · 21-09-2020 05:19PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They're using steroids to treat people with COVID in hospitals now. I'm regularly administered steroids for chest infections. Not sure why they're not being prescribed?

Me too, I feel I should look like a female popeye with big guns from them

is_that_so · 21-09-2020 05:19PM

Piehead wrote: »

Is it approaching 1,000 today?

Are you hoping you'll eventually be right? Briefing at 5.30. 200-300 seems be the best guess.

iamwhoiam · 21-09-2020 05:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Passed a school in Dublin today at lunchtime with a cacophony of noise from the yard. Happy children is one of the nicest natural sounds and makes things seem just a little bit normal.

Absolutely . During lockdown I would go twice a day for a walk around our estate . I had to stop going past the junior school and take another route. The eerie silence and closed blinds actually upset me too much

SPDUB · 21-09-2020 05:20PM

If I heard correctly on Drivetime restrictions been extended to all of NI from current area

From BBC just now level 4 in UK up from level 3

igCorcaigh · 21-09-2020 05:20PM

political analyst wrote: »

Obviously, there's no justification for what happened at the Oliver Bond flats. However, it probably wouldn't have happened at all if the 'wet pubs' and the nightclubs had been allowed to re-open weeks ago.

It would have happened indoors instead.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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