Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Deleted User wrote: »

The data is aligning with an estimate produced early in the pandemic that the risk for any individual of dying from covid is roughly equal to the annual risk of dying from another cause. 0.6% of 5 million is 30,000 and in a normal year we have about 30,000 deaths. Of course a significant proportion of the vulnerable who die from covid would have died from something else in the same year, so uncontrolled the excess mortality for Ireland would be significantly less than 30,000.

The data I posted on death rates is Philip Nolans by the way.
https://twitter.com/President_MU/status/1307644210766647303

Very interesting. I didn't see those stats before.

Hector Savage wrote: »

So irresponsible if they go ahead and sell those tickets ...
It's obviously not going ahead ..

Well, they can only sell them if people buy them!

blowitupref wrote: »

How many tests was Sunday?

10000

Anyone advocating for 'virtual classrooms' clearly has absolutely no idea how difficult online learning is. Ridiculous suggestion.

blowitupref wrote: »

How many tests was Sunday?

The don't release the positive number on a Sunday

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Sure, but the probability of someone who has just died, but happens to have an unrelated covid infection is the same as the incidence of any random person having covid at a particular time.

Which surely is very very small, right?

So the deaths "with covid" should be insignificant, am I right?

Those who end up in hospital for any reason tend to be tested, both here and in the UK. So if they are in for a car accident or any accident, or cancer treatment, stroke, heart attack and so on, they will probably get a test. They may then die of the other condition. So seriously ill people would be more likely to be tested than healthy people. The Oxford study found that many people who died of other things had covid on their death cert. We already know they had to remove 5000 from the death stats because doctors registered deaths of people who were diagnosed at least two months before. So it appears doctors in the UK are making a lot of mistakes registering covid deaths.

Pablo Escobar wrote: »

Yes, there's no proof, but the claim was anecdotal. It does not mean it's either true or false. There is a research paper that was pre peer review that I saw that claimed to have found it in waste water dated March 2019 in Barcelona. Strangely enough it was not found in such samples again until November 2019.

Just the March 12th sample and absolutely non of the others around that time...

"A curious thing about this finding is that it disagrees with epidemiological data about the virus. The authors don’t cite reports of a spike in the number of respiratory disease cases in the local population following the date of the sampling.

Also, we know SARS-CoV-2 to be highly transmissible, at least in its current form. If this result is a true positive it suggests the virus was present in the population at a high enough incidence to be detected in an 800ml sample of sewage, but then not present at a high enough incidence to be detected for nine months, when no control measures were in place.

So, until further studies are carried out, it is best not to draw definitive conclusions."

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Who said there is? I said that's what they believe. People on here tend to trust the professionals, I'm going to as well.

Come on. Do you really think it was in Cork in October last year?

ixoy wrote: »

For younger, primary aged, children school can be vital for socialising as much as actual learning. They need to learn to interact with their peers in person and a computer screen isn't the same - and not all will have siblings, or neighbours, to play with.

Passed a school in Dublin today at lunchtime with a cacophony of noise from the yard. Happy children is one of the nicest natural sounds and makes things seem just a little bit normal.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

And is their proof it wasn't, no tests were done then so we don't know for sure

Absence of evidence doesn't work either way. The earliest it may have been found in Europe is a case in France from December and some waste water samples on one day in Barcelona in November.