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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #8282
    Ce he sin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭Ce he sin


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54227057

    Fair play to them, people won't tolerate a 2nd lockdown ... especially now with the evidence that they don't work.
    We need to look to Sweden for inspiration ..


    Why, I wonder? Why not go a little further west and look at Norway? 49 deaths per million people compared to 580 for Sweden.


  • #8283
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    niallo27 wrote: »
    So what's the plan, people can't follow restrictions and have house parties. Let's shut down restaurants and put 50k out of work. No other country has followed this approach in Europe but the crowd we have in charge decide they know better.

    I don't know what the plan is. But suggesting a plan to follow Sweden knowing full well that the reason we're getting new cases is because we're not following guidelines, so the new plan will be to..... follow guidelines? Yeah cause it will work second time around.


  • #8284
    CiarraiManc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 204 ✭✭CiarraiManc


    Hego Damask wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54227057

    Fair play to them, people won't tolerate a 2nd lockdown ... especially now with the evidence that they don't work.
    We need to look to Sweden for inspiration ..

    Get the riot squad to crack a few skulls and beat some sense into them


  • #8285
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Cork numbers today related to a large cluster apparently
    Any evidence of this?


  • #8286
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    It’s like 2009 all over again, except we were being told repeatedly by the finance minister that we’ve turned a corner.

    Ooh 2009 I'm guessing a lot of the people in fear have short memory's.

    5,400 new swine flu cases diagnosed this week
    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0106/296171-swineflu/

    How the CMO got caught out with another pandemic is worth questioning, we should have been prepared.


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  • #8287
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Ce he sin wrote: »
    Why, I wonder? Why not go a little further west and look at Norway? 49 deaths per million people compared to 580 for Sweden.

    While there is clearly a difference in deaths, it is at least interesting to see Norway have climbing numbers again in a similar curve to us, while Sweden do not. Will they reach 500 deaths per million eventually? Who knows? Probably not quite as bad with treatments improving. Maybe they can stave it off with cyclical lockdowns too. But if the vaccine takes far longer, mental health and economy damage *may* outweigh it.

    I’m not say I agree with either approach tbh, I don’t know what’s correct, I’m just as frustrated with this whole thing being a wait-and-see exercise. But to look at deaths in isolation isn’t the whole picture.


  • #8288
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Job going here for TY student if you know anyone interested.

    https://careers.ryanair.com/search/#job/163f1c


  • #8289
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,440 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0920/1166398-rave-covid-restrictions/


  • #8290
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Oscar Bravo wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2020/0920/1166398-rave-covid-restrictions/

    “The statement added that no breaches of regulations were detected and officers maintained a presence in the area.” :confused:


  • #8291
    Oscar Bravo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,440 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    “The statement added that no breaches of regulations were detected and officers maintained a presence in the area.” :confused:

    feel sorry for the ordinary residents there. state of the place after it.


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  • #8292
    lulublue22
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭lulublue22


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Cork numbers today related to a large cluster apparently

    From the 3 schools affected in Ballincollig ?


  • #8293
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    The lads in Oliver Bond have been at this all summer, why is it a surprise now?

    How long until they move rest of Ireland to level 3? Realistically they have to do it at some stage why not soon to curb the spread completely? If it's this bad in Dublin it will get out to the other counties


  • #8294
    Donegalforever
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    A US priest has a YouTube video out on Coronavirus that may be interesting.

    Fr. Altier: Coronavirus - The Truth Revealed.

    He says he has proof of all the claims he makes on the subject.


  • #8295
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Oscar Bravo wrote: »
    feel sorry for the ordinary residents there. state of the place after it.

    Yeah, god love them. It says they had to clean up the mess afterwards. It must be sickening to have that going on on your own doorstep and be powerless to do anything about it.


  • #8296
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,727 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    “The statement added that no breaches of regulations were detected and officers maintained a presence in the area.” :confused:

    Yeah, this is what I can’t understand. There’s two breaches there - no gatherings, and no mixing with any more than one household in your home or garden.

    Nevermind all the laughing gas canisters on the ground...


  • #8297
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,042 ✭✭✭Polar101


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    “The statement added that no breaches of regulations were detected and officers maintained a presence in the area.” :confused:

    I guess detecting isn't one of the strengths of the Gardai.


  • #8298
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Very high numbers today. I'm very worried that we might see what happened in Italy earlier in the year. We acted quickly back then. But it's now we have to live with it.

    Yeah we acted quickly by removing the elderly from hospital beds and putting them into care homes, without a test. Holohan advised Nursing homes not to restrict visitors in March. The nursing homes was where the majority of our deaths occurred.
    Btw do you think prehaps we have learned a few things since the images of Lombardy hit our screens?


  • #8299
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,824 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    spookwoman wrote: »
    If the restrictions get extended might start seeing vigilante groups sorting these out.

    The Gardai would be fast enough to tackle vigilantes but as we’ve seen they have little in the way of want to sort out the scumbags having parties / large gatherings.


  • #8300
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Donegalforever wrote: »
    A US priest has a YouTube video out on Coronavirus that may be interesting.

    Fr. Altier: Coronavirus - The Truth Revealed.

    He says he has proof of all the claims he makes on the subject.

    Good lord some people actually can't be saved


  • #8301
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Yeah we acted quickly by removing the elderly from hospital beds and putting them into care homes, without a test. Holohan advised Nursing homes not to restrict visitors in March. The nursing homes was where the majority of our deaths occurred.
    Btw do you think prehaps we have learned a few things since the images of Lombardy hit our screens?

    There's no evidence visitors brought Covid into nursing homes, it looks like it was brought in from staff, who picked it up in the community, from the public.


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  • #8302
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭alentejo


    The worse this second wave in europe is, the quicker the pandemic will pass.


  • #8303
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    There's no evidence visitors brought Covid into nursing homes, it looks like it was brought in from staff, who picked it up in the community, from the public.
    lol.


  • #8304
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    billybonkers wrote: »
    The lads in Oliver Bond have been at this all summer, why is it a surprise now?

    How long until they move rest of Ireland to level 3? Realistically they have to do it at some stage why not soon to curb the spread completely? If it's this bad in Dublin it will get out to the other counties

    Ireland will be at 3 and Dublin 4 soon enough, due to our chronic health service and the fear of the politicians of the inevitable hospital sh1tsh0w.. That’s all it is. That’s the reason why we are panicking and other countries are restricting contacts and gatherings, and enforcing WFH, but otherwise getting on with things perfectly calmly without the state media banging on.

    This will be with us for a year. Most epidemiologists and virologists are talking about a possible vaccine in maybe Q2 next year, and no universal availability until much later in the year. So what will be different here in November, or January or March or June next year? Nothing, other than an even lower level of compliance with the rules, due to general fatigue. Oscillating between phase 2 and 4 for the next 12 months will ruin us. It is just not possible

    This strategy will not work for 12 more months (at best). We need to be bolder is keeping things open and getting to some normality (masks, hygiene, social distancing notwithstanding). Treatment is better now, the UK has loads of ICU capacity. We need to be bolder and if our ICU become overrun, then ask Boris if we can use some nightingale capacity.


  • #8305
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    That's some amount of laughing gas on the pitch, had to do a double take thought it was needles first. Suppose it's a positive news story, kids are improving.


  • #8306
    Hego Damask
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭Hego Damask


    Ce he sin wrote: »
    Why, I wonder? Why not go a little further west and look at Norway? 49 deaths per million people compared to 580 for Sweden.

    Norway is having a second wave now, it's inevitable ..


  • #8307
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,482 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    That's some amount of laughing gas on the pitch, had to do a double take thought it was needles first. Suppose it's a positive news story, kids are improving.
    Kids are improving? What does that even mean in this context?
    Inhaling laughing gas isn't exactly clever or safe...


  • #8308
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    580/million according to Worldometers. That's just behind Italy at 591. Obviously those figures don't take into account what they are taking as Coronavirus deaths, but being just a bit behind Italy would be a good place to be, imo. Ireland is 362.

    Since nearly all deaths occur in the over 65 age group the deaths/million should really be adjusted for the population over 65.

    Seen as its like a score keeping exercise.

    Sweden vs Europe

    Use the correct metrics at least

    Ireland has a very young population, which is a natural defense.

    Still did no better than Sweden, however


  • #8309
    smellyoldboot
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭smellyoldboot


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    “The statement added that no breaches of regulations were detected and officers maintained a presence in the area.” :confused:

    Gardai couldn't give a Fcuk in other words.


  • #8310
    dockysher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 425 ✭✭dockysher


    alentejo wrote: »
    The worse this second wave in europe is, the quicker the pandemic will pass.

    And the quicker more people will die. Great thinking


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  • #8311
    rogieop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 406 ✭✭rogieop


    Donegalforever wrote: »
    A US priest has a YouTube video out on Coronavirus that may be interesting.

    Fr. Altier: Coronavirus - The Truth Revealed.

    He says he has proof of all the claims he makes on the subject.

    Without watching the vid I'll bet this months mortgage he has zero proof...


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