Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

They aren't in the same country!

It's not a comparison

Who are we supposed to compare ourselves to so, any country in Europe maybe.

AdamD wrote: »

Are we ignoring the elephant in the room that kids could be asymptomatically spreading this around the classroom, then bringing it home, causing a large increase in cases? Even without large increases in kids testing positive, they could still drive increases.

So even if the kids haven't tested positive, haven't any symptoms and probably don't have Covid, you're going to blame them anyway?

smellyoldboot wrote: »

It's not even a could be. All the data since schools returned suggests this is exactly what's occurring but there is too much political/economic skin in the game of schools returning to even investigate this.

Exactly, What else opened in September that wasn't open in August.

AdamD wrote: »

I'm not blaming anyone. Can we not have a rational discussion without moving to this kind of language? Covid isn't anyone's fault

We certainly can have a rational discussion. Provide any data you have that supports your made-up theory that kids are causing the virus to spread, and I'll happily discuss with you.

caveat emptor wrote: »

Dolphins barn on hyper local lockdown.

https://twitter.com/jftaxi/status/1307391709169553410?s=21

Photo shoot.

billybonkers wrote: »

How do we do that? Lock them away? Have no one care for them?

They are locking young and healthy at the moment. Is that the best solution you think?

I am not in to conspiracy theories and no agenda. I know that children need to be in school for lots of very valid reasons but is it possible that the virus is going to be carried into homes and transmitted to family members.
Are we going to discover in a few weeks that if Schools remain open that our ability to halt the spread is doomed . By the time this conclusion is reached potentially the virus will be even more embedded . There's no easy answers I accept.

quartz1 wrote: »

I am not in to conspiracy theories and no agenda. I know that children need to be in school for lots of very valid reasons but is it possible that the virus is going to be carried into homes and transmitted to family members.
Are we going to discover in a few weeks that if Schools remain open that our ability to halt the spread is doomed . By the time this conclusion is reached potentially the virus will be even more embedded . There's no easy answers I accept.

Well, what countries have had schools back much earlier than us?
Surely that will show us how this trends no?

AdamD wrote: »

Anti children agenda? Jesus christ you're having a conversation with yourself at this point

Just produce the data to support your theory. Thanks.

tom1ie wrote: »

Well, what countries have had schools back much earlier than us?
Surely that will show us how this trends no?

Scotland, Germany two I can think of.
I think complacency is more to blame than schools being back. I even remember in August the car park at the local book shop being jammers with people in getting school books and supplies, which these days can be bought online. I think people are just so desperate to get their old lives back, they’re just going on as normal, but we can’t go back to normal till this thing burns itself out or we get vaccines. The quicker people reconcile themselves to that, the quicker it’ll be over.

quartz1 wrote: »

Absolutely you are correct but are their family systems similiar to ours. Driving through town recently I couldn't help notice how many Grandparents were collecting or walking kids home from school. I am also aware how much the kids would suffer if the schools were closed. It's a serious problem

It is indeed.
But I imagine in the country where schools opened early (Iceland?) they have grandparents collecting kids or not even collecting them but coming into contact with the kids during the week/weekend were they would be in the crosshairs of c19.

screamer wrote: »

Scotland, Germany two I can think of.
I think complacency is more to blame than schools being back. I even remember in August the car park at the local book shop being jammers with people in getting school books and supplies, which these days can be bought online. I think people are just so desperate to get their old lives back, they’re just going on as normal, but we can’t go back to normal till this thing burns itself out or we get vaccines. The quicker people reconcile themselves to that, the quicker it’ll be over.

Yeah I think it is complacency tbh.
But again virus won’t burn out (herd immunity) until 70% and hopefully we get a vaccine by next year at some stage and then hopefully uptake is above 70% globally.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So. If the Dublin lockdown has no major impact on cases, what's next? If it does have a good impact on figures, we open up again. And cases go back up. What's next. How is this 'living with the virus'?

If cases go up and deaths don't do we admit the virus has weakened? (Answer: No)