Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

wadacrack · 18-09-2020 05:25PM

Common sense tells us that any setting setting with people congregated indoors is high risk. Understandable that are closing down restaurants and pubs in Dublin atm. Obviously people are very emotional and devastated with the news at the minute and I have sympathy but their is logic to this decision unlike the one regarding outdoor activity. The worrying thing is that Europe as a whole is repeating the same mistakes as March and have seemed to have learned very little or just ignoring the evidence for a certain agenda ie: Schools must be open in spite of worrying signs with transmission and the myth that kids do not spread this virus which is obviously not true. The model to follow seems to be one in Asia. Not what we want to hear as it requires great discipline but it seems the only way out of this and in time will hopefully be much easier with a vaccine. Lockdown's of some sort now happening throughout Europe so it seems like all the theories which many wanted to believe are simply not true to the extent that many thought they would be.

Happydays2020 · 18-09-2020 05:25PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

253 new cases - 116 in Dublin.
3 deaths

Is that Dublin cases already declining?

Boggles · 18-09-2020 05:25PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Do you have a fetish for petrol pump handles ??
its in plenty of posts and your the only person here banging on with it

Because there is a false narrative on the thread by a select few that indoor arenas where you don't have to wear masks are covid free zones.

You have to wear a mask and social distance pretty much every where else. So the large amounts of community spread have to be happening somewhere.

So no, quite the opposite of a fetish, they are lethal, they must be.

fritzelly · 18-09-2020 05:26PM

Hurrache wrote: »

No evidence that the virus spreads where people gather in a region in which there's a high number of infected?

Where's the evidence bars are petri dishes?

Stheno · 18-09-2020 05:26PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is that Dublin cases already declining?

It's only one day, there needs to be a sustained decline

Goldengirl · 18-09-2020 05:26PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The majority of cases nowadays arise in private households, I’m not sure how many times this has to be said

Yeah you keep saying that .

But unfortunately its not strictly true... and the government and NPHET know this.

Restaurants have gotten caught up with what is essentially a problem with pubs and socialising and lack of distancing , which is happening in some peoples homes also.

stephenjmcd · 18-09-2020 05:27PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Is that Dublin cases already declining?

Wouldn't say declining no, more so that its been fairly steady for the last few days than anything that could be seen as exponential growth

Hurrache · 18-09-2020 05:28PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Where's the evidence bars are petri dishes?

How can you still not understand why they're being closed? It's a basic understanding of how virus's spread.

caveat emptor · 18-09-2020 05:28PM

Teachers union not happy.

https://twitter.com/intonews/status/1306935561639342083?s=21

Happydays2020 · 18-09-2020 05:28PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Common sense tells us that any setting setting with people congregated indoors is high risk. Understandable that are closing down restaurants and pubs in Dublin atm. Obviously people are very emotional and devastated with the news at the minute and I have sympathy but their is logic to this decision unlike the one regarding outdoor activity. The worrying thing is that Europe as a whole is repeating the same mistakes as March and have seemed to have learned very little or just ignoring the evidence for a certain agenda ie: Schools must be open in spite of worrying signs with transmission and the myth that kids do not spread this virus which is obviously not true. The model to follow seems to be one in Asia. Not what we want to hear as it requires great discipline but it seems the only way out of this and in time will hopefully be much easier with a vaccine. Lockdown's of some sort now happening throughout Europe so it seems like all the theories which many wanted to believe are simply not true to the extent that many thought they would be.

Logic may indeed point in that direction but the data is not. The vast majority of cases are not as a result of people socialising in these establishments.

podgeandrodge · 18-09-2020 05:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Rather than go out for dinner people will just host dinner at home. Exactly what they don’t want people to do.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Last week it was we want people into restaurants that are controlled environments and don't be gathering in houses.

This week we're closing them, it happened during initial restrictions it'll happen again there'll be more house gatherings

This. What the actual F.

They have spent weeks telling people not to have house parties and to do staycations.

Now they are pretty much guaranteeing house parties and encouraging people to take a plane abroad. I was due to go down south for a couple of weeks staycation, but we are now looking at going abroad after all as a result of this.

s1ippy · 18-09-2020 05:30PM

https://www.joe.ie/news/entertainers-golf-society-say-they-adhered-to-safety-guidelines-during-trip-to-offaly-704110

The woman died during the trip and was tested for covid in post mortem.

Imagine if we were serially testing selected samples of the population to monitor it now that it's everywhere. Supermarket staff, teachers, meat plant workers, unemployed people, children. It would give us a way clearer picture of just how badly out of control this is in any given place.

yerwanthere123 · 18-09-2020 05:30PM

s1ippy wrote: »

A teenager threw a drink in Leo's face earlier.
https://twitter.com/NoelRock/status/1306967632516714497?s=09

What a cunt. Hope she's caught and jailed.

KrustyUCC · 18-09-2020 05:31PM

spookwoman wrote: »

253 new cases - 116 in Dublin. 22 in Kildare, 14 in Cork, 14 in Galway, 13 in Donegal, 10 in Limerick, 10 in Louth, 9 in Mayo, 8 in Waterford, 7 in Wicklow and the remaining 30 cases are located in Carlow, Cavan, Clare, Kilkenny, Laois, Longford, Meath, Monaghan, Offaly, Tipperary, Westmeath.
1% are under 45 years of age

45% are confirmed to be associated with outbreaks or are close contacts of a confirmed case

61 cases have been identified as community transmission.

3 deaths

Highest figure in Cork for quite a while afaik

Spanish Eyes · 18-09-2020 05:32PM

I really want to be a cynic, and say the Dublin uptick is just that. A blip.

But it's not really is it?

WHAT IS CAUSING THIS? Sorry for shouting.

branie2 · 18-09-2020 05:32PM

Getting alarmingly high at times

niallo27 · 18-09-2020 05:33PM

Hurrache wrote: »

A bit pointless, completely pointless.

It's not being done for the craic, it's for public health.

Giving people 7 hours notice is ****ing pathetic and wrong.

ACitizenErased · 18-09-2020 05:33PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Highest figure in Cork for quite a while afaik

Likely contacts of the Ballincollig cases. Wouldn’t be too concerned.

Hawthorn Tree · 18-09-2020 05:34PM

I keep hearing that school buses are packed - zero social distancing.
I know CIE are a basket case organisation but surely they had enough time to prepare?

niallo27 · 18-09-2020 05:34PM

Has any other country in Europe closed their restaurants.

Hurrache · 18-09-2020 05:35PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Giving people 7 hours notice is ****ing pathetic and wrong.

They couldn't get the virus on the phone to ask it to hold off for a bit.

Nor was there any hint during the week that this was going to happen by the weekend, none whatsoever.

is_that_so · 18-09-2020 05:35PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really want to be a cynic, and say the Dublin uptick is just that. A blip.

But it's not really is it?

WHAT IS CAUSING THIS? Sorry for shouting.

Gatherings with oodles of contacts in multiple locations. Basically all the stuff we've been advised not to do.

Funsterdelux · 18-09-2020 05:35PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Highest figure in Cork for quite a while afaik

Our dream of a Covid free Cork is over.

Close the homes!

Cody montana · 18-09-2020 05:36PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Highest figure in Cork for quite a while afaik

Oh Bollix.

Don't lock Cork down!

Boggles · 18-09-2020 05:36PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Has any other country in Europe closed their restaurants.

Europe are having their own problems at the minute.

dalyboy · 18-09-2020 05:36PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Teachers union not happy.

https://twitter.com/intonews/status/1306935561639342083?s=21

Jeez ! Did the teachers not have enough holidays from March - end of August ? Are they getting jealous of the PUP payments to hospitality staff already ? Wowser

Funsterdelux · 18-09-2020 05:36PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

I keep hearing that school buses are packed - zero social distancing.
I know CIE are a basket case organisation but surely they had enough time to prepare?

In fairness they only had 3 weeks notice

igCorcaigh · 18-09-2020 05:36PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I really want to be a cynic, and say the Dublin uptick is just that. A blip.

But it's not really is it?

WHAT IS CAUSING THIS? Sorry for shouting.

If I where to guess, people are mixing, meeting up, social distancing has gone, same as the rest of the country. Cases are rising everywhere. We've lost the run of ourselves. Behaving like there is no pandemic.

Basically.

Xenji · 18-09-2020 05:37PM

9 in Mayo is the highest in a couple of months.

smellyoldboot · 18-09-2020 05:37PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I don't think the quality of food has an effect.

Maybe the nutritional makeup of it...

It's got zero to do with presence or quality of food full stop. Drunkenness and the effects on social distancing in indoor environments is what it was about. Most likely wasting my time here as some people seem to wilfully "misunderstand" the food requirement in pubs.

Ideally only restaurants would have been allowed open as they serve a necessary if slightly overplayed function in feeding people who may be at home or have access to cooking facilities. In order to create a semblance of fairness, pubs that served food were also allowed open "as a restaurant", hence the stipulation of a substantial meal requirement.

It was implicit if not explicit in these guidelines that they were not to operate as drinking only establishments at this point.

Plenty however saw opportunity to circumvent the guidelines sourcing food from local takeaways to enable their use as the drinking establishments the guidelines sought to forbid.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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