Unquiet graves RTE 1 tonight.....9.30pm

Normal One wrote: »

It's quite telling that FFG have zero comment to make.

If you want to know why the British got away with all they did as layers in the conflict/war you could do worse than look at the silence from the power swap parties and partitionists in general today.

A people abandoned to their fate since partition.

Honestly ....the Irish state needs to come up with a plan of what it IS to do if this happens again.

If they don't ...history will repeat and paramilitaries will take control.

I don't mean military action because that would be ridic ...but something.

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

It was very good, if you look back it’s amazing how little we in the South heard about the plight of Catholics at the time. Basically the whole thing was blamed on the IRA by most of the Southern media. Now the IRA did awful things and deserved to be condemned but the North was clearly toxic when the police were planting bombs hoping to kill civilians.

Maybe if you had listened to news reports and read newspapers you would have heard. I dont believe that there was one killing that was not reported. "Most of the Irish media"!
I cant remember the media blaming the IRA for Bloody Sunday, Shankill Butchers, the Reavey and O Dowd killings. Peddling lies doesnt help the situation

Edgware wrote: »

Maybe if you had listened to news reports and read newspapers you would have heard. I dont believe that there was one killing that was not reported. "Most of the Irish media"!
I cant remember the media blaming the IRA for Bloody Sunday, Shankill Butchers, the Reavey and O Dowd killings. Peddling lies doesnt help the situation

The media here certainly did buy into the Widgery whitewash of Bloody Sunday, which claimed that the those killed on Bloody Sunday were subversives.
The deaths were also certainly reported but did our journalists EVER look at the wider picture?
SF were shouting for years about collusion and dirty tricks and they were ridiculed by the media here and censored and banned from our airwaves.

The truth is that our media was as complicit in the silence as our successive governments were.

smurgen wrote: »

Was there calls for LV to come clean during the election about the Dublin and Monaghan bombings? For his Garda commissioner to give us the details of the murders?

DEFLECT DEFLECT INCOMING!

You inferred that the media did not report on certain killings when if you check back the various media outlets you will find that every killing was reported as well as instances where people "disappeared" Dont deflect by hitting on the Dublin Monaghan issue

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The media here certainly did buy into the Widgery whitewash of Bloody Sunday, which claimed that the those killed on Bloody Sunday were subversives.
The deaths were also certainly reported but did our journalists EVER look at the wider picture?
SF were shouting for years about collusion and dirty tricks and they were ridiculed by the media here and censored and banned from our airwaves.

The truth is that our media was as complicit in the silence as our successive governments were.

Widgery walked in to the Bloody Sunday enquiry the first day wearing his military medals.
A number of journalists commented on it and his report was discredited immediately on issue. I cannot recall one journalist or politician in the Republic ever laying the blame at the marchers or labelling them terrorists. If you have evidence of that throw it up or else get off the pot

FrancieBrady wrote: »

But Edgware, you miss the point. The British were given all the airtime they wanted to sit on the higher moral ground, point the finger and not one of our darling media or indeed our political class challenged them even though many many people were saying what was happening.

SF could have been challenged, questioned and maligned but it was totally wrong that they were silenced (when they had an obvious democratic mandate) and it only allowed the British to act with impunity - my original point.
Our media is sadly not independent even to this day and it has cost us dearly as an island.

They had miniscule electoral support prior to the ban being removed so not sure what you mean by a 'mandate'

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Its astonishing....garda commissionor helped cover up blantent murder by the RUC,an ocean of evidence available and not an iota or 2nd taught given to it by media or government here




What other country carries on like this

blantent?

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

They had miniscule electoral support prior to the ban being removed so not sure what you mean by a 'mandate'

Minuscule is still a mandate.
Try silencing any party on the same level of support and you will get told the same thing.

Edgeware and yourself and anyone having doubts about the argument should ask themselves how familiar they are with the names of the victims highlighted in Unquiet Graves, then look at how familiar you are with the selected victims of the media here...the Jean McConville's, Gerry McCabe's, etc etc.
Those names are on the tips of the tongues of a certain set and the reason they are, while others have been long ignored (until their shouts cannot be ignored any longer) says everything you need to know in fairness.

smurgen wrote: »

Was there calls for LV to come clean during the election about the Dublin and Monaghan bombings? For his Garda commissioner to give us the details of the murders?

Varadkar and Martin, like the cowards they are, went for the Paul Quinn file instead. All gone quiet on that, again, since the election is done and dusted for another few years.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

All concerned about ira killings....but anyone dare qs why garda commissioner shut down inquiries into 150 murders or point out media/government silence in face of a wave of evidence.....and your met with white noise and obstrusion




Pure and utter joke of a country we have

There are airports and ferry services if you reckon you will do better elsewhere

Working class heroes wrote: »

Anyone know if this will be shown again?

It's on the RTE player or you can rent / buy it on Youtube if you have no access to the RTE player.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yeah....usual.rubbish....garda commissioner helped cover up a decade long muder campaign.



anyone who dare raise issue with this,or the government/media silence surronding it, is told to.leave the country,no wonder nothing ever changes here

What are you doing about changing it? What is a "muder campaign"?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yeah....usual.rubbish....garda commissioner helped cover up a decade long muder campaign.



anyone who dare raise issue with this,or the government/media silence surronding it, is told to.leave the country,no wonder nothing ever changes here

No other country on earth would have put Drew Harris in the position he was in.