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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #4382
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    Tonight's slides

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1306293947036323846?s=19

    And

    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1306293832368164864?s=19


  • #4383
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Icantthinkof1 wrote: »
    No apparently can’t get the virus unless within 2 metres of someone infected for period of 15 mins or more

    So, the aerosol theory of transmission is bunkum?


  • #4384
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I can’t think of a single reason why me, my friends or my family should reduce our already low number of contacts tbh
    Sure, but you're not a source of risk any more than most of the rest of us are.


  • #4385
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,136 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    George Lee sounds very concerned

    Why is he challenging NPHET when its the government have the final say and have chosen to ignore NPHET advice


  • #4386
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    is_that_so wrote: »
    There are contingency plans for that. I think i saw a potential 250 extra ICU that can be added but open to correction on that number.

    I remember an interview on the radio a week or so ago and they said the Government had a contract signed with the private hospitals . They handed them back over with the understanding that the Government can once again take over one or many private hospitals at short notice


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  • #4387
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Allinall wrote: »
    Then we’ve no chance.

    Because I am the problem, take your head out of the sand.


  • #4388
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    polesheep wrote: »
    They won't lockdown the country again, but even if they did they won't be able to lockdown the people. And they know it, which is why we are not going to see another lockdown. The time has come to self-lockdown if you feel vulnerable.

    The problem with this logic is that people with health problems and middle aged persons can become severely ill and require hospitalization. They can be treated with intensive care and deaths can be prevented, but only so long as the hospital system can keep up with demand.

    Once demand outstrips available intensive treatment, some of those people with underlying health problems will start dying. It is inevitable. It only needs to be a small percentage for the deaths to start accumulating. That is what is in store if we reach a situation whereby there are 1,000+ cases daily for a sustained period of time. Like, this is why we had to have a lockdown in the first place. The Government didn't do it for the crack.

    What's really worrying is that we haven't really done what was needed to ramp up available treatment in our hospital system. That should have been done while we had the lockdown and the inevitable lull in new cases that followed.

    So if you want all middle aged, older persons or those with underlying conditions to self-isolate then you're locking down half the country as it is.


  • #4389
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    george lee commenting


  • #4390
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The fact is this communication strategy has been a complete and utter failure.
    We’re being told: reduce your contacts. That’s it?
    Why?
    Where are people catching this? Why is Dublin’s numbers higher than everywhere else? Why did Donegal have high numbers today? Why did Waterford have high numbers yesterday? What’s going on with the low numbers in Sligo?
    Is a bit of information too much to ask for?

    They think the general public are ****ing idiots.

    R rate is over 1 for entire country.

    Many people were back living normal lives which collectively you cannot do.

    Looks at this stage they have lost control.

    You can't keep r rate over 1 for 2 months and think everything will be ok.


  • #4391
    cyclops999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭cyclops999


    George Lee having a hissy fit,


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  • #4392
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    fritzelly wrote: »
    George Lee sounds very concerned

    Why is he challenging NPHET when its the government have the final say and have chosen to ignore NPHET advice
    Because he can. All they need to do is throw a few numbers his way to confuse him.


  • #4393
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    They really aren't!!. I work in Dublin hospitals and can guarantee numbers are low. Why did you post that? Covid patients don't go into general ED anyway, everyone is tested before that.

    Why did I post it.
    Oh maybe because of this. No need to explain how testing works to me

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/nurses-say-80-patients-waiting-for-bed-at-university-hospital-limerick-1.4356316%3fmode=amp


  • #4394
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    We said the exact same watching the News here



    All we get is “ we are worried , very concerned , its worrying and concerning and numbers increasing “


    We both screamed “ Then bloody do something “
    Nphet advise the government, there SFA other than write a letter with the advice and give it to the government.
    It's up to the government to actually heed the advice.

    Despite what people believe, nphet do not run the country.


  • #4395
    stockshares
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭stockshares


    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1306285563868311552?s=19


  • #4396
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    R rate is over 1 for entire country.

    Many people were back living normal lives which collectively you cannot do.

    Looks at this stage they have lost control.

    You can't keep r rate over 1 for 2 months and think everything will be ok.

    The r rate is skewed by the high numbers in Dublin. Last week it was decreasing towards 1 without Dublin included.


  • #4397
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Too slow
    https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1306295289125502977?s=19


  • #4398
    dinorebel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    I can’t think of a single reason why me, my friends or my family should reduce our already low number of contacts tbh
    Fair chance you'll live up to the username so.


  • #4399
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Allinall


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    Because I am the problem, take your head out of the sand.

    How do you know you’re not the problem?


  • #4400
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    He asks better questions than Zara King and Rob Wotshisface from Joe Dot Eye Eee.


  • #4401
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,039 ✭✭✭Polar101


    It seems pretty simple.. if people do nothing, the virus will spread. If people reduce their contacts, the virus will spread less.

    Do you need the NPHET or the government to tell you that?


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  • #4402
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The r rate is skewed by the high numbers in Dublin. Last week it was decreasing towards 1 without Dublin included.
    He did say it's not very different to the rest of the country. In some parts of Dublin it could be way higher.


  • #4403
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The r rate is skewed by the high numbers in Dublin. Last week it was decreasing towards 1 without Dublin included.

    They've said tonight both Dublin and nationally its nearly the same.

    Its increased nationally even with Dublin out


  • #4404
    Mental Mickey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Polar101 wrote: »
    It seems pretty simple.. if people do nothing, the virus will spread. If people reduce their contacts, the virus will spread less.

    Do you need the NPHET or the government to tell you that?

    Bingo


  • #4405
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭MOR316


    dinorebel wrote: »
    Fair chance you'll live up to the username so.

    Shut the **** up!


  • #4406
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    So, when are we all expecting level 3.
    I'm Guessing Monday


  • #4407
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Allinall wrote: »
    How do you know you’re not the problem?

    Probably because he doesn't have the virus?


  • #4408
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,174 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Too slow
    https://twitter.com/ZaraKing/status/1306295289125502977?s=19

    People would nearly be better off letting close contacts know themselves.


  • #4409
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Allinall


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Probably because he doesn't have the virus?

    How would they know that?


  • #4410
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    So, when are we all expecting level 3.
    I'm Guessing Monday

    I think the question is, the cat is out of the bag for Dublin now so do they level 3 it tomorrow or just do a big bang and level 3 the whole country next week.


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  • #4411
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    So, when are we all expecting level 3.
    I'm Guessing Monday

    But which Monday???
    Based on this current government, they may just surprise ya!


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