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Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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  • #3782
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    So filtered science.

    This will end well.

    Unfiltered science would end badly too


  • #3783
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Genuine question.
    If two people not currently living together get married, are they obliged to maintain ‘social distancing’ during the ceremony.
    And how do they, (ahem), consummate their union while maintaining ‘social distancing’?


  • #3784
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Varadkar on Today FM saying whatever NPHET give as advice on Thursday will go to the new oversight group because as NPHET he says are great scientists they "don't know how to run an economy" so the advice needs to be filtered with social and economic considerations.

    Cabinet meets again next week as usual

    Would cabinet not meeting till next week mean NEW restriction would earliest be Monday ?


  • #3785
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Throwing NPHET under the bus once again. He really is a very unlikeable person.

    Well he did say "They don't know how to run an economy or a bus service"


  • #3786
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    yourdeadwright wrote: »
    Would cabinet not meeting till next week mean NEW restriction would earliest be Monday ?

    Probably, so NPHET Thursday, then oversight group, then information to cabinet


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  • #3787
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Genuine question.
    If two people not currently living together get married, are they obliged to maintain ‘social distancing’ during the ceremony.
    And how do they, (ahem), consummate their union while maintaining ‘social distancing’?

    Bride is sanitised before being


  • #3788
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well he's talking now about any restrictions such as Kildare on Dublin would be 10 times worse economically so that's why they don't want to go that way. It would be the end of many businesses.

    If we get to 1500-3500 cases a day in the next 6 weeks like Nolan has suggested if mitigation isn't acted on or doesn't work, it will be the end of a lot more businesses because they will have to close for longer, also people are not fúcking idiots they won't go out consuming if the virus is raging.

    That's before we even consider the strain on the rest of society.


  • #3789
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well he did say "They don't know how to run an economy or a bus service"

    Few ministers have said this.

    It's not a criticism, if anything it's to stop people blaming NHPET for everything.


  • #3790
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Genuine question.
    If two people not currently living together get married, are they obliged to maintain ‘social distancing’ during the ceremony.
    And how do they, (ahem), consummate their union while maintaining ‘social distancing’?

    Genuine answer. It’s a stupid question.

    There nothing to stop two people who don’t live together going for dinner, going for a walk holding hands, getting into a boxing ring and knocking seven shades of ****e out of each other, getting married without social distancing, or copulating from dawn to dusk if the mood takes them.


  • #3791
    GooglePlus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Genuine question.
    If two people not currently living together get married, are they obliged to maintain ‘social distancing’ during the ceremony.
    And how do they, (ahem), consummate their union while maintaining ‘social distancing’?

    They both have to bath in sanitizer and mate like slugs.


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  • #3792
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Boggles wrote: »
    If we get to 1500-3500 cases a day in the next 6 weeks like Nolan has suggested if mitigation isn't acted on or doesn't work, it will be the end of a lot more businesses because they will have to close for longer, also people are not fúcking idiots they won't go out consuming if the virus is raging.

    That's before we even consider the strain on the rest of society.

    The only thing that matters is if we get to very high hospital numbers. Thousands of young positive people who are not ill won't matter.


  • #3793
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,991 ✭✭✭growleaves


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Varadkar on Today FM saying whatever NPHET give as advice on Thursday will go to the new oversight group because as NPHET he says are great scientists they "don't know how to run an economy" so the advice needs to be filtered with social and economic considerations.

    Cabinet meets again next week as usual

    "Doctor we're having a liquidity crisis"

    "Be sure to drink plenty of fluids"


  • #3794
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    gral6 wrote: »
    Sweden did not have a lockdown and they are now on the green list. Which only proves that the lockdown is good at feck all.

    Hehe, if someone had said a couple of months ago that Sweden would be on that list ahead of some other countries they'd have been laughed off the stage!

    Your point is well made though. You can go to Sweden, but for God's sake please don't leave Dublin and go to Tipperary.


  • #3795
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    polesheep wrote: »
    The only thing that matters is if we get to very high hospital numbers. Thousands of young positive people who are not ill won't matter.

    "Young people" don't live in a vacuum.

    IF we shoot in the middle of Nolans model of 2500 infections a day. That is 17500 infections a week, if we pretend for a second that we can achieve 100,000 tests.

    That's a 17.5% positivity rate. You are probably missing the same again in cases.

    You have lost control of the virus, it's back to stay at home orders, 5km for excerise.

    It will take weeks for those sort of levels to plateau and start to decrease.


  • #3796
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,044 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I would suspect Swedish people are social distancing more right now than many Irish people based on what I've heard about their own cultural attitudes. That helps hugely.


  • #3797
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Boggles wrote: »
    If we get to 1500-3500 cases a day in the next 6 weeks like Nolan has suggested if mitigation isn't acted on or doesn't work, it will be the end of a lot more businesses because they will have to close for longer, also people are not fúcking idiots they won't go out consuming if the virus is raging.

    That's before we even consider the strain on the rest of society.

    I wouldn’t worry. Even IF we get 1500-3500 cases a day i’m quite sure the government will give you your lockdown before it gets to that stage. That should accommodate the rocking back and forth frothing at the mouth brigade.


  • #3798
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,445 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    NPHET letter from last Thursday
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1306169586350526468?s=19


  • #3799
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    I wouldn’t worry. Even IF we get 1500-3500 cases a day i’m quite sure the government will give you your lockdown before it gets to that stage. That should accommodate the rocking back and forth frothing at the mouth brigade.

    You are a strange strange man.


  • #3800
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Boggles wrote: »
    So filtered science.

    This will end well.

    They are going to call the group Zanussi


  • #3801
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    DangerScouse wrote: »
    Throwing NPHET under the bus once again. He really is a very unlikeable person.

    This isn’t throwing NPHET under the bus. It’s him saying that the Government will now take a balanced approach to handling the virus with the public health advice being weighted against economic and sociological considerations.

    Something I and others have been arguing in favour of on this forum for months. Locking the country down until the vaccine arrives is a widely held view among public health circles. It fails to take into account the economic and sociological destruction it would cause. Public health advice needs to be reprofiled for a world with economic and social constraints. It’s the only way through this unfortunate mess.


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  • #3802
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Boggles wrote: »
    You are a strange strange man.

    But it is a lockdown you want isn’t it? Just saying if the numbers go as you suggest you should get one. What’s strange about that?


  • #3803
    Azatadine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,589 ✭✭✭Azatadine


    Gerry Killeen on Pat Kenny now......


  • #3804
    bush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,878 ✭✭✭bush


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Gerry Killeen on Pat Kenny now......

    Lunatic


  • #3805
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    But it is a lockdown you want isn’t it? Just saying if the numbers go as you suggest you should get one. What’s strange about that?

    No lad, no adult with their full facilities wants another lockdown. But that doesn't change the fact that we may have to.

    They are Nolans figures not mine.

    I take back the strange comment, You are a scared scared man.

    I know the internet hard guy routine is a persona.

    I'd give you a hug, but you know 2 meters and all that.


  • #3806
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    marno21 wrote: »
    This isn’t throwing NPHET under the bus. It’s him saying that the Government will now take a balanced approach to handling the virus with the public health advice being weighted against economic and sociological considerations.

    Something I and others have been arguing in favour of on this forum for months. Locking the country down until the vaccine arrives is a widely held view among public health circles. It fails to take into account the economic and sociological destruction it would cause. Public health advice needs to be reprofiled for a world with economic and social constraints. It’s the only way through this unfortunate mess.

    Well it's going bloody great so far


  • #3807
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Pat Kenny subtly implying that he would really appreciate some strict law enforcement about the place. He's fallen very far since his Celtic Tiger days, he reminds me of my own father because he used to be an uppity cúnt but now he's just old and needs looking after.


  • #3808
    DangerScouse
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 466 ✭✭DangerScouse


    Azatadine wrote: »
    Gerry Killeen on Pat Kenny now......

    Making some great points.


  • #3809
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,301 ✭✭✭Allinall


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Well it's going bloody great so far

    What?

    You formed that opinion after 24 hours?


  • #3810
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,497 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    marno21 wrote: »
    Locking the country down until the vaccine arrives is a widely held view among public health circles.

    Is it? :confused:

    You have some polar opposite views.

    Ranging from we have reached herd immunity all ready, to covid free island.

    And of course you have the absolute lunatics on here and social media.

    But who in "public health circles" in Ireland has suggested lockdown until a vaccine?


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  • #3811
    Micky 32
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,627 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Boggles wrote: »

    I take back the strange comment, You are a scared scared man.

    Really? Just shows how clueless you are. I worked through the whole lockdown since March. Travel restrictions didn’t apply to me for most part, i basically wasn’t in lockdown. Mixed with the public too due to the nature of my work and did everything possible to keep myself safe and others. It worked i never caught the virus.

    Scared? Try again pal.


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