Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

ForestFire · 15-09-2020 03:46PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

What really need is a plan involving shapes.

Rhombus means safe
Circle means caution
Triangle means danger

That's a system I could get behind.

Dublin's current Status just in.....

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igCorcaigh · 15-09-2020 03:46PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

Chaos and confusion.

Jinglejangle69 · 15-09-2020 03:46PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE saying he spoke to the CMO first who told him to contact his GP.

Must be hard to understand the whole advice of contact your GP and don't go to work

Heard him talking and coughing this morning.

is_that_so · 15-09-2020 03:47PM

Hawthorn Tree wrote: »

Donnelly never really got off the ground as a minister for health which is probably why we are seeing less of him. The trampoline comments ruined his credibility early on.

They were limited in terms of choices for the job and as he was the FF spokesperson he was in line. I reckon he wanted it but as he is learning, like many others before him, wanting and doing are extremely different things.

Widdensushi · 15-09-2020 03:48PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

You couldn't make this up, he lacks the personal responsibility to still at home with symptoms but he is making the rules for everyone else

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 03:48PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Chaos and confusion.

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Imagine a press conference were no one says anything of note and then they release the documents which need to be revised a few times with hours. Also the plan has 5 phases but Dublin is in 2 but with more , a restriction from phase 5.

It was really really poor

Hurrache wrote: »

We're still trying to work that out.

Classic Ireland

Thanks

15-09-2020 03:48PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

RTE saying he spoke to the CMO first who told him to contact his GP.

Must be hard to understand the whole advice of contact your GP and don't go to work

Imagine if he was positive and passed it to CMO, MM and LV?

mr_edge_to_you · 15-09-2020 03:48PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They were limited in terms of choices for the job and as he was the FF spokesperson he was in line. I reckon he wanted it but as he is learning, like many others before him, wanting and doing are very extremely different things.

Should have been given a junior ministry at the Dept of Health. Classic case of be careful for what you wish for......you might just get it.

Jinglejangle69 · 15-09-2020 03:49PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Should have been given a junior ministry at the Dept of Health. Classic case of be careful for what you wish for......you might just get it.

He's been criticising for years.

Finally gets a chance to put his money where is mouth is and shows himself to be utterly useless.

Chap thinks he's more important than he is.

is_that_so · 15-09-2020 03:50PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Should have been given a junior ministry at the Dept of Health. Classic case of be careful for what you wish for......you might just get it.

Sure, but apart from one of the old codgers there were no other obvious front runners for MoH.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 03:50PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The one from Ballincollig in Cork is another non-story, not a single person in the school has been deemed a close contact and the school remains open as normal.

That is true so far of the one in Dublin i have heard about , but these are not what most parents would describe as" a non story."

Gadgetman496 · 15-09-2020 03:51PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

Basically they announced a 5 level plan.

A county/area can be deemed to be in level 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5

25 of the county's are in level 2 but Dublin is in level 2.5 (Go figure).

speckle · 15-09-2020 03:51PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

If this is correct, I wish that they would make it clear.
Personally, I was just using an example.
The reality is that we are not making any visits to my elderly Mum (who lives far away from us) for the foreseeable now that the Kids have gone back to school.

I mentioned ages ago, one idea that schools should closed 15 days before xmas to allow kids/parents meet up with grandparents. Bring them back a bit early the other side or make up for it later on.etc However the final decision should be with the grand parents how the celebration is held.

mr_edge_to_you · 15-09-2020 03:53PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

It is a 6 month plan (or framework, sorry I'm not sure) but it doesn't cover Christmas.

Boggles · 15-09-2020 03:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't think are reports of any clusters in schools yet. Epidemiology report is due tomorrow so should tell us more

It won't tell us anything unless their is specific team of contact tracers setup for schools, is there?

If cases just go into the general pot of contact tracing, it won't be traced back to class rooms.

Example.

Little Johnny tests positive, class sent home for 14 days.

Little Johnny infected Little Mikey.

Little Mikey was asymptomatic and infected both his parents, their symptoms didn't show up for 8 days, they get tested and their contacts are traced 48 hours before onset of symptoms.

No link made to the class.

15-09-2020 03:54PM

speckle wrote: »

I mentioned ages ago, one idea that schools should closed 15 days before xmas to allow kids/parents meet up with grandparents. Bring them back a bit early the other side or make up for it later on.etc However the final decision should be with the grand parents how the celebration is held.

What about all those parents who wont get holidays until the 23rd but will have kids off from the 10th

schmoo2k · 15-09-2020 03:54PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Basically they announced a 5 level plan.

A county/area can be deemed to be in level 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5

25 of the county's are in level 2 but Dublin is in level 2.5 (Go figure).

Just heard them trying to explain this on the radio - complete amateur hour.

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-09-2020 03:54PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

That is true so far of the one in Dublin i have heard about , but these are not what most parents would describe as" a non story."

Its a non story in relation to schools. Hysteria around schools is poisoning the discourse in this country and stopping parents sending children to school.

15-09-2020 03:55PM

Boggles wrote: »

It won't tell us anything unless their is specific team of contact tracers setup for schools, is there?

If cases just go into the general pot of contact tracing, it won't be traced back to class rooms.

Example.

Little Johnny tests positive, class sent home for 14 days.

Little Johnny infected Little Mikey.

Little Mikey was asymptomatic and infected both his parents, their symptoms didn't show up for 8 days, they get tested and their contacts are traced 48 hours before onset of symptoms.

No link made to the class.

This will happen in some cases, but on average, as with any cluster, the source will emerge

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 03:57PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

It is a 6 month plan (or framework, sorry I'm not sure) but it doesn't cover Christmas.

Wait what?

What about Christmas?

Gods Gift · 15-09-2020 03:58PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

The Snakes and Ladders plan.
If a county is good they progress along the board, but if you land on a snake you go down a level. Dublin is currently on a snake. And trying to eat it.

ForestFire · 15-09-2020 03:58PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

todays press conference was brought to you by the number 2

point 5

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 03:58PM

hmmm wrote: »

My proposed Lilac, Lavender, Plum, Purple colour scheme would also clearly communicate risk in a manner similar to the Government's Level 2, 2.365, 2.4753, 2.6743, 2.6744, 3 scheme.

With aqua and cornflower blue notes for in between levels maybe?:)

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 03:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Imagine if he was positive and passed it to CMO, MM and LV?

If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

Preaching to everyone to take personal responsibility and not go into work with symptoms and contact your GP.
The CMO had to tell him

smellyoldboot · 15-09-2020 03:59PM

Boggles wrote: »

It won't tell us anything unless their is specific team of contact tracers setup for schools, is there?

If cases just go into the general pot of contact tracing, it won't be traced back to class rooms.

Example.

Little Johnny tests positive, class sent home for 14 days.

Little Johnny infected Little Mikey.

Little Mikey was asymptomatic and infected both his parents, their symptoms didn't show up for 8 days, they get tested and their contacts are traced 48 hours before onset of symptoms.

No link made to the class.

No link WILL be made to the class.

We signed up to this level of fraudulent reporting likely to occur when some 20+% of our voters voted for FF again.

The irony is the vast majority of those voters will be among the most vulnerable to an increase in CoVid 19 spread caused by this ****show of a government and their policies.

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 03:59PM

speckle wrote: »

I mentioned ages ago, one idea that schools should closed 15 days before xmas to allow kids/parents meet up with grandparents. Bring them back a bit early the other side or make up for it later on.etc However the final decision should be with the grand parents how the celebration is held.

That is a good idea.
We spend Christmas in our own house. Don't usually have family but have celebrated with friends for the Dinner some years. Usually, we go to my home place sometime between Christmas and New Years and spend New Year there.
Last year we were all sick after Christmas one after the other with a flu type thing and didn't go at all over the break for the first time in years.
Looks like we won't be going again this year.

Boggles · 15-09-2020 04:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This will happen in some cases, but on average, as with any cluster, the source will emerge

Well no it won't.

We have had at least 600 maybe even as high as 900 instances of unknown community transmission in the past fortnight.

The only real place we are tracking the majority at the moment are private households, obviously the easiest to trace.

There seems to be a narrative being peddled that we have a sophisticated track and trace system, we don't.

And the reality is if we using the same system in schools, clusters will not be identified because the variables will not allow it in most instances.

From what I am hearing personally and in the media about the level of tracing, we will need to hire contact tracers to track down the contact tracers.

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 04:01PM

Latest HPSC Epidemiological Update - 12th September 2020

Data compared with previous report on 9th September 2020.

Overview
Confirmed Cases +623
Total Hospitalised +17
Total in ICU - No Change
Total Deaths +3
Clusters +81
Cases associated with clusters +234
Imported Cases +8
Healthcare Workers +52

Age Range
0-4 +27
5-14 +53
15-24 +132
25-34 +121
35-44 +96
45-54 +70
55-64 +67
65-74 +39
75-84 +10
85+ +8

Types of Transmission
Community transmission, incl. possible community transmission +204
Local transmission, incl. possible local transmission +311
Travel abroad, incl. possible travel abroad +12
Unknown +94

Cases Hospitalised
0-4 +2
5-14 No Change
15-24 +1
25-34 +3
35-44 No Change
45-54 +3
55-64 +3
65-74 +4
75-84 No Change
85+ +1

Deaths
65-74 +1
75-84 +1
85+ +1

Types of Outbreaks
Private House +22
Nursing Home +3
Other (includes community, extended family, hotel, public house, retail outlet, travel related and all other locations) +30
Residential Institution +6
Hospital +1
Workplace +18
Comm. Hospital/Long-stay unit - No Change
Unknown +1

Location of Outbreaks (by HSE area)
East +32
Mid +14
Mid-West +13
North-East +4
North-West +4
South +3
South-East +7
West +4

Busi_Girl08 · 15-09-2020 04:01PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

If it wasn't so serious it would be funny.

Preaching to everyone to take personal responsibility and not go into work with symptoms and contact your GP.
The CMO had to tell him

Would love to have been a socially distanced fly on the wall during that conversation.

Imagine being the Chief Medical Officer of a country and having to tell the Minister for Health to go home and call his GP.

If he does test positive he's surely have to resign.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 04:03PM

Government spokesperson says there was an error in the level 3 guidelines published earlier. Clarifies that restaurants WILL remain open - with added restrictions - for indoor dining. This includes "wet" pubs.

Both can remain open at level 3.

Except not in Dublin at the moment when it comes to "wet" pubs

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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