Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:32PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes I think this is right .

Sorry iamwhoiam and SusanC, but if you pick it up and visit a family group one day , then a few days later visit another, but are asymptomatic that is all of you infected possibly . Forget the contact tracing , its down to stopping the spread.

That is why nursing homes are now limited to one designated person visiting , it isn't one person this week and another next .

If this is correct, I wish that they would make it clear.
Personally, I was just using an example.
The reality is that we are not making any visits to my elderly Mum (who lives far away from us) for the foreseeable now that the Kids have gone back to school.

Gods Gift · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is spooning allowed

Yes. But only if both parties have done the safe pass course in forklift driving. Obviously.

mloc123 · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They said at the last presser there’s no outbreaks in schools. Just one school had more than 1 case.

Yes, they said there had been 50+ cases... but it was kids going to school with it, not catching it in school

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

They said at the last presser there’s no outbreaks in schools. Just one school had more than 1 case.

Was this today?

ForestFire · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Even with these increases it'd be the year 2100 before we hit 70%!

Are you taking into account the reproduction rate into this calculation.....will we ever reach 70%:eek:

Boggles · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

Depends on what level of surveillance and tracing they are doing in schools with confirmed cases.

IF they just get lumped in with the basic contact tracing the chances of them identifying a cluster from a class if fairly slim.

iamwhoiam · 15-09-2020 04:33PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yes I think this is right .

Sorry iamwhoiam and SusanC, but if you pick it up and visit a family group one day , then a few days later visit another, but are asymptomatic that is all of you infected possibly . Forget the contact tracing , its down to stopping the spread.

That is why nursing homes are now limited to one designated person visiting , it isn't one person this week and another next .

The Government will have to make this clear . I absolutely am not the only one who will misinterprete that .
“ at any given time “ leaves it wide open

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 04:34PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Was this today?

Last NPHET one, wednesday

purplecorn · 15-09-2020 04:34PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Clusters now in schools must be at about 70. Can't think of any attributed to sports events, yet their still remains strict protocols in place/How this virus transmits seems to have been forgotten about by the government

95 total schools confirmed with at least one case of Covid-19 in the ROI according to this:
https://twitter.com/schools_19/status/1305878076774133760?s=20

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-09-2020 04:34PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Interesting report from the UK.

For the week ending 4th September, 1500 fewer people died of all causes than in a normal year. This is likely to continue for a number of weeks. It probably indicates a couple of things - people dying from infectious diseases is down because of social distancing and many people who died of covid earlier in the year would have died at some stage this year.

It will be interesting to see the full year excess deaths comparison for a country like the UK at the end of 2020.

I remember listening to a UK epidemiologist back in February on BBC radio. He predicted that there would be no excess deaths in the UK in 2020 and basically everyone who dies of this disease would more than likely died this year anyway, bar a small unlucky few. I thought he was speaking nonsense. He might not have been.

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 04:34PM

The one from Ballincollig in Cork is another non-story, not a single person in the school has been deemed a close contact and the school remains open as normal.

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 04:35PM

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

aisling86 · 15-09-2020 04:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

He was coughing at the start of his section at press conference

Eod100 · 15-09-2020 04:37PM

aisling86 wrote: »

He was coughing at the start of his section at press conference

Notice that too. Sure wasn't Eamon Ryan close contact of positive case?

SusanC10 · 15-09-2020 04:38PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

Seriously ?

Hurrache · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

The way the post is worded is amusing. It's as if he turned up to school today and had to get sent home by the principal.

I'm not dismissing the potential that he actually did arrive into work today showing symptoms though and was given a kick in the ass outta the place.

speckle · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

So with this plan my family will not be having Christmas/Solstice/Newyears as we are all live in separate solo households, which those in power do not take into account when planning. In the present era their are a lot more non-nuclear families and individuals without children.

We have not seen each other since last year, so technically as we do not live in the same county, it will be up to two years between the old guidelines and this new plan before that happens, yet we could travel to some of the s green listed countries and meet up there?

Our risk is potentially lower than a family with kids in school for picking up covid. It also does not take into account that some people within a family structure may be antibody positive for covid.(and still taking formite transmission precautions)

polesheep · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

Charles Babbage wrote: »

How about discussion on having sex with children, should that be allowed? Robbing cars? Children driving trucks? Banning homosexuals from your pub?

I'm loath to respond to such a mindless post, but here goes. I think you will find that all of those subjects have been discussed on radio at one time or other. I also think you missed the point by a country mile.

hmmm · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

What really need is a plan involving shapes.

Rhombus means safe
Circle means caution
Triangle means danger

That's a system I could get behind.

My proposed Lilac, Lavender, Plum, Purple colour scheme would also clearly communicate risk in a manner similar to the Government's Level 2, 2.365, 2.4753, 2.6743, 2.6744, 3 scheme.

Oranage2 · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

Hopefully it's nothing serious but he should stay of the trampoline for a short period of time anyway.

ACitizenErased · 15-09-2020 04:39PM

aisling86 wrote: »

He was coughing at the start of his section at press conference

The health minister showing up for work with symptoms..... dear jesus give me strength

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 04:40PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

If this is correct, I wish that they would make it clear.
Personally, I was just using an example.
The reality is that we are not making any visits to my elderly Mum (who lives far away from us) for the foreseeable now that the Kids have gone back to school.

I know it was just an example , and appreciate your situation totally .

15-09-2020 04:40PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It hasn't been 12 months yet. Going for de facto herd immunity is insanely risky knowing what we know about other corona viruses.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1083-1.pdf

Your posts on this matter got me thinking Caveat - dangerous stuff I know.

Given the strategies across Europe are starting to align, is there an untold Europe wide strategy emerging to hedge against the risk of vaccines failing. For selective pressures on the virus to emerge, we need to let it spread a little. If we were to return to a full lockdown, the virus would retreat to confined environments, with no selective pressure to evolve to less virulent strain, the likelihood is that it would emerge again as virulent, with a slight risk that it would be even worse. If it is allowed to spread with a level of control however, selective pressure will eventually result in a less virulent strain. By accepting that some asymptomatic or mild cases may seed new clusters undetected we would increase the positive selective pressure on a milder strain, while still controlling the more serious cases. Just a thought.

Either way living with the virus has to be the long term strategy
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00011-020-01352-y

Apparently, the bitter and unpopular truth is that most of the world's inhabitants need to make contact with the SARS-CoV-2 before we can all return to normal life. Quarantine slows down this process, gaining time for doctors and scientists who, through their professional activities, can save virus-sensitive individuals. So often, we have to choose: quickly but painfully, or gently but slowly. Today we find ourselves in a zugzwang situation: a greater number of deaths, or the collapse of the global economy. We are on the second path so far, but soon we will need to reach a compromise because SARS-CoV-2 will continue to circulate in the human population. This coronavirus is with us forever.

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 04:40PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Donnelly has been sent for a COVID test due to feeling unwell today

RTE saying he spoke to the CMO first who told him to contact his GP.

Must be hard to understand the whole advice of contact your GP and don't go to work

MOR316 · 15-09-2020 04:40PM

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

Gadgetman496 · 15-09-2020 04:41PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Yep another up here too.

Where's up here?

Hawthorn Tree · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

Donnelly never really got off the ground as a minister for health which is probably why we are seeing less of him. The trampoline comments ruined his credibility early on.

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The one from Ballincollig in Cork is another non-story, not a single person in the school has been deemed a close contact and the school remains open as normal.

Every time a child tests positive a school will get dragged into this even it has nothing to do with it. People just love blaming schools. It's a warped agenda.

Hurrache · 15-09-2020 04:42PM

MOR316 wrote: »

Had no clue there was a press conference.

Can anyone give me a short summary of what was said/introduced?

Thanks

We're still trying to work that out.

15-09-2020 04:43PM

wadacrack wrote: »

Clusters now in schools must be at about 70. Can't think of any attributed to sports events, yet their still remains strict protocols in place/How this virus transmits seems to have been forgotten about by the government

Don't think are reports of any clusters in schools yet. Epidemiology report is due tomorrow so should tell us more

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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