Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

hmmm · 15-09-2020 02:05PM

AdamD wrote: »

how's Christmas going to work?

A traditional Irish Christmas is unlikely in this environment.

Whatever about a plan, it's time the Government started to be honest with the public and tell them what they can expect. Now is the time to start breaking the bad news, because we can be pretty sure the virus situation isn't going to improve over Winter. Waiting until the middle of December is stupid from a PR and a morale point of view.

s1ippy · 15-09-2020 02:05PM

crossman47 wrote: »

One clear decision: Next years Census postponed. Sensible IMO.

Yeah who needs data at a time like this.

froog · 15-09-2020 02:05PM

"There are 5 levels"

"Okay, and what level is Dublin?"

"2.5"

This is straight out of a monty python sketch.

15-09-2020 02:06PM

growleaves wrote: »

The singular vision of one intelligent person possibly would produce a better plan than a Commitee job with chefs from FG, FF, NPHET and a PR firm all stirring the broth.

also don't forget the amount of advisors even the the very mister green eamon Ryan has by his side.. all this think tank and the result is this shyte show!

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 02:06PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Number of health care workers getting infected is increasing both in absolute terms and as a proportion of total cases reported in the week.

But surely it will be said it is coming from households?;)

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 02:07PM

Beasty wrote: »

Threads merged

When Beasty says this , what threads does he mean are being merged?

Boggles · 15-09-2020 02:09PM

hmmm wrote: »

A traditional Irish Christmas is unlikely in this environment.

Whatever about a plan, it's time the Government started to be honest with the public and tell them what they can expect. Now is the time to start breaking the bad news, because we can be pretty sure the virus situation isn't going to improve over Winter. Waiting until the middle of December is stupid from a PR and a morale point of view.

The press need to up there game as well.

2 minutes after the Minister for Health says it's going to be the most challenging winter on record for the health service.

They are hit with the "what about Christmas" question.

Join the dots.

15-09-2020 02:10PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Yeah who needs data at a time like this.

It takes a year to collect and compile the data, so wont be any use until 2022 anyway

Gadgetman496 · 15-09-2020 02:10PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

When Beasty says this , what threads does he mean are being merged?

2.5 of them are being merged if you live in Dublin

caveat emptor · 15-09-2020 02:10PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

But you are not keeping an eye to what votes you will lose or what lobby you will alienate , by implementing certain measures.
This is why they are trying to downgrade the public health advice from NPHET , not to protect us poor things from scaremongering , but to keep us from knowing what should be done .

Yes! Classic example of trying to please all of the people and ending up pleasing none.

growleaves · 15-09-2020 02:10PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

When Beasty says this , what threads does he mean are being merged?

Someone begins a new thread on the forum and due to its generality it gets merged into this umbrella thread. So this thread + 1 other.

ArmaniJeanss · 15-09-2020 02:12PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

When Beasty says this , what threads does he mean are being merged?

You can sort of see by going to the coronavirus forum and seeing which threads have 'Moved' in their title. There's two at the moment, by posters 'Double O Seven' and 'AKMC', which now re-direct to in here.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 02:15PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

So much for TENEO

(PR firm)

Silk purses and sows ears come to mind here :pac:

rob316 · 15-09-2020 02:15PM

Boggles wrote: »

The press need to up there game as well.

2 minutes after the Minister for Health says it's going to be the most challenging winter on record for the health service.

They are hit with the "what about Christmas" question.

Join the dots.

That was my favourite bit.

Martin - we haven't talked about christmas, this is a plan for the next 6 to 9 months.

Someone better inform him its in the 3rd month of his plan.

NegativeCreep · 15-09-2020 02:17PM

hmmm wrote: »

A traditional Irish Christmas is unlikely in this environment.

Whatever about a plan, it's time the Government started to be honest with the public and tell them what they can expect. Now is the time to start breaking the bad news, because we can be pretty sure the virus situation isn't going to improve over Winter. Waiting until the middle of December is stupid from a PR and a morale point of view.

People will have the Christmas they want regardless

podgeandrodge · 15-09-2020 02:17PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

I have Irish holidays from end sept to mid October. So now I'm wondering what to do, or what I'm supposed to do. Cancel all the accomodation (even though Govt was encouraging us to staycation) or ignore and go. Would like to hear their "advice" for those with current bookings elsewhere in the country.

thoughts on this?

Boggles · 15-09-2020 02:18PM

rob316 wrote: »

That was my favourite bit.

Martin - we haven't talked about christmas, this is a plan for the next 6 to 9 months.

Someone better inform him its in the 3rd month of his plan.

Well, I'll put it this way.

If I were a Turkey farmer I would be doubling production.

Benimar · 15-09-2020 02:19PM

310 positive swabs on 8,120 tests - 3.8% positivity rate :eek:

Boggles · 15-09-2020 02:19PM

310 swabs.

Keeping the pubs closed that haven't been open since March will cure this growth.

MerlinSouthDub · 15-09-2020 02:19PM

310 Positive swabs over last 24 hours. 8122 tests.

wellwhynot · 15-09-2020 02:20PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

thoughts on this?

I would definitely go. Not even a question in my mind.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 02:21PM

froog wrote: »

"There are 5 levels"

"Okay, and what level is Dublin?"

"2.5"

This is straight out of a monty python sketch.

Cue all the rest of government banging coconut shells together for MM:D

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-09-2020 02:21PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

So when next you all notice numbers rising please consider the impacts on the health service

We have all sacrificed massively (funerals, family occasions, weddings, medical procedures postponed) and over a hundred thousand people have lost their jobs.

This was all done to protect the health services.

Somehow I think we are considering the impacts.

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-09-2020 02:24PM

NegativeCreep wrote: »

People will have the Christmas they want regardless

That is the reality. If you want a big family Christmas you will still have it. If you want to avoid a big family Christmas then Covid excuse will be used. We will all have the Christmas we want. It is going to be impossible to stop people visiting family at Christmas after the horrible year we have all had.

Goldengirl · 15-09-2020 02:24PM

Boggles wrote: »

The press need to up there game as well.

2 minutes after the Minister for Health says it's going to be the most challenging winter on record for the health service.

They are hit with the "what about Christmas" question.

Join the dots.

That's so that publication can put in a headline "Taoiseach says Christmas Cancelled" .

growleaves · 15-09-2020 02:25PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

That's so that publication can put in a headline "Taoiseach says Christmas Cancelled" .

Tiny Tim Hardest Hit

spookwoman · 15-09-2020 02:26PM

8120 Tests done over 24hrs
310 Positive for 24hrs
76,238 Week total of tests
2% Positive for week, up 0.2% from yesterday

caveat emptor · 15-09-2020 02:26PM

What does reinfection look like in other corona viruses? Not good.

6 months to the day I posted this. I was rubbishing the UK plan but our "plan" is just as ****. Seems not a lot has changed.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1305605844013203456?s=20

*the common cold comprised of many viruses some of which are corona viruses.

caveat emptor wrote: »

British assumption no long term damage from contracting the disease. There is plenty of evidence to suggest this. Google "ground glass opacities" to see the effect on non emergency patients if you are interested. They are ignoring this or that reinfection can't won't occur. The common cold is a coronavirus. Is anyone immune to it?

Ultimately I believe they know the approach is boll0x and are trying to keep things going a little bit longer before drastic measures are implemented. Very important to appear to have a plan. Most people don't possess the intellect to comprehend if it is actually feasible. By the time it gets bad they'll just say "aw well we tried"

s1ippy · 15-09-2020 02:27PM

Boggles wrote: »

Well, I'll put it this way.

If I were a Turkey farmer I would be doubling production.

Haha I don't think rearing turkeys works the way you think it works!

But your point is 100% salient nonetheless. I ordered our goose, turkey and ham on Friday to go in the freezer.

Assetbacked · 15-09-2020 02:28PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

thoughts on this?

I'm in West Cork for a weekend the end of September (from Dublin) and also looking to book a week towards the end of October in Ireland to take advantage of this tax rebate. There's great deals on accommodation in Ireland now schools and workers are back.

EDIT: I was in Germany in August which is why I'm not in need of a foreign holiday so soon. But would highly recommend going abroad if that's an option.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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