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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #5042
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    hmmm wrote: »
    Vaccines are not going to be perfect, and we need a large uptake. They're going to massively reduce risk but they won't remove all risks. Hopefully we can get it down to something like the Flu, so vulnerable groups will be able to do most of what they would normally do but have to avoid certain high-risk locations.

    So when will we ba back to something close to life before March?


  • #5043
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    AdamD wrote: »
    No they don't

    WHO beg to differ, the article was oldish so if there is some more up to date info like bugs bunny I’m all ears.


  • #5044
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Literally nobody has said that old people aren't entitled to life.

    You’ve implied it yourself.


  • #5045
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Literally nobody has said that old people aren't entitled to life.

    Really? Read some of Fintan McCluskey`s recent posts and come back to us.


  • #5046
    HeidiHeidi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,360 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Really? Read some of Fintan McCluskey`s recent posts and come back to us.

    He could read most of his own while he's at it!


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  • #5047
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Starts from midnight. Will run through the next 6 months (at least)

    Potentially much longer than that.


  • #5048
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    Strumms wrote: »
    WHO beg to differ, the article was oldish so if there is some more up to date info like bugs bunny I’m all ears.

    You're not just wrong, you're wrong by an order of magnitude.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114606264

    Stop posting.


  • #5049
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    Really? Read some of Fintan McCluskey`s recent posts and come back to us.

    Show me a quote from Fintan that said elderly people are not entitled to life.

    If you can't, stop arguing.


  • #5050
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Nermal wrote: »
    You're not just wrong, you're wrong by an order of magnitude.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=114606264

    Stop posting.

    I’ll keep posting, I don’t need your permission.

    Information I’m imparting is available courtesy of the WHO website, inconvenient as it is for some of you.


  • #5051
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Are matches allowed to ahead in Dublin this weekend?

    Under level 2 they are bit under level 3 they aren’t- gona make plans if soccer match is cancelled


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  • #5052
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,247 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    They have already made a mess a this regarding Dublin


  • #5053
    Hubertj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Hubertj


    do they really think this nonsense will be adhere to during Xmas? What about the thousands of people coming home to family? Mad stuff altogether. How does our "plan" compare to other countries (UK excluded)?


  • #5054
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,831 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    paw patrol wrote: »
    so till next march (or this is scrapped) there are no Nightclubs, discos and casinos in ireland.
    The puritans sure won out there.

    Hopefully young people start organizing large-scale house parties.

    A campaign of widespread civil disobedience is called for.

    They have had their travel, sporting, social and employment opportunities flushed away and been saddled with billions of debt that we expect them to pay back on our behalf, all to 'protect' some very, very old and very, very sick people.


  • #5055
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hubertj wrote: »
    do they really think this nonsense will be adhere to during Xmas? What about the thousands of people coming home to family? Mad stuff altogether. How does our "plan" compare to other countries (UK excluded)?

    I don't really see it as a plan because there are no metrics involved and even level 1 is still heavy on restrictions.

    It is basically just 60 pages of rubbish that could be summed as "We are making this up as we go".

    I mean its a 5 stage plan... and on day 1 we have a county on a stage 2.5

    And 2.5 seems to be more restrictive than 3


  • #5056
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Show me a quote from Fintan that said elderly people are not entitled to life.

    If you can't, stop arguing.

    “High risk people are the ones in nursing homes who will never again see outside the door of those facilities regardless of a vaccine.

    High risk are not those healthy enough to be out and about.

    The vaccine won't change that, it will be hard for you to accept that, but it is the case.“

    His implication is clear in this post of his above. ^^^

    Absolutely stupid thing to say. Both my grandparents were in a nursing home prior to their deaths. Minor health issues and ‘at risk’ as far as covid would define. There were weekly excursions to shopping centers, cinema, every Sunday they visited one of our houses for lunch, then a drive, tea and back again...life, a quality of and in life.


  • #5057
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    “High risk people are the ones in nursing homes who will never again see outside the door of those facilities regardless of a vaccine.

    High risk are not those healthy enough to be out and about.

    The vaccine won't change that, it will be hard for you to accept that, but it is the case.“

    His implication is clear in this post of his above. ^^^

    Absolutely stupid thing to say. Both my grandparents were in a nursing home prior to their deaths. There were weekly excursions to shopping centers, cinema, every Sunday they visited one of our houses for lunch, then a drive, tea and back again...

    So he didn't say they were not entitled to life.


  • #5058
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Strumms wrote: »
    Because ...

    3.4 % of people who get covid die.

    Less than 1% of people who get flu die. Year to year it varies as in the exact number but always less then 1 %. A lot less.

    That’s a huge fûcking difference.

    There are 4.9 million people in the Republic of Ireland...

    If you infected each person in the country in an imaginary scenario with covid, then flu...

    166,600 will die of Covid.

    49,000 would die in a flu epidemic using (1%)

    Covid more than 3 times as fatal, potentially.

    Is that you Sam?


  • #5059
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Is that you Sam?

    That the best you can do ?:)


  • #5060
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Strumms wrote: »

    Absolutely stupid thing to say. Both my grandparents were in a nursing home prior to their deaths. Minor health issues and ‘at risk’ as far as covid would define. There were weekly excursions to shopping centers, cinema, every Sunday they visited one of our houses for lunch, then a drive, tea and back again...life, a quality of and in life.

    Why were they in a home?


  • #5061
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Strumms wrote: »
    Because ...

    3.4 % of people who get covid die.

    Less than 1% of people who get flu die. Year to year it varies as in the exact number but always less then 1 %. A lot less.

    That’s a huge fûcking difference.

    There are 4.9 million people in the Republic of Ireland...

    If you infected each person in the country in an imaginary scenario with covid, then flu...

    166,600 will die of Covid.

    49,000 would die in a flu epidemic using (1%)

    Covid more than 3 times as fatal, potentially.

    Strumms your numbers are spectacularly wrong and do your argument no good whatsoever.

    <0.1% of those who get flu die, and 0.4-0.8% of those who get covid


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  • #5062
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So he didn't say they were not entitled to life.

    As I said in the post you quoted.. he ‘implied’ it. ;)


  • #5063
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Just reading through the article in the Journal explaining this clusterf**k of a plan.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/the-levels-covid-framework-5205140-Sep2020/?utm_source=facebook_short&fbclid=IwAR0bhJWaucOCe2Ld9QSrC9uPoHfeXgG03Tr6fdIZqZxL7zUI59za0kbTOcs

    So Seemingly Dublin is somewhere between level 2 and level 3, yet at level 3 up to 15 people can meet outdoors while at level 2.5 (Dublin) only 6 can meet.

    Clear as Mud.


  • #5064
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,623 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Strumms your numbers are spectacularly wrong and do your argument no good whatsoever.

    Thats why I quoted it.

    Very important to keep a record


  • #5065
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Hopefully young people start organizing large-scale house parties.

    A campaign of widespread civil disobedience is called for.

    They have had their travel, sporting, social and employment opportunities flushed away and been saddled with billions of debt that we expect them to pay back on our behalf, all to 'protect' some very, very old and very, very sick people.


    not just the young. everybody should.
    I know I will


  • #5066
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Hopefully young people start organizing large-scale house parties.

    A campaign of widespread civil disobedience is called for.

    They have had their travel, sporting, social and employment opportunities flushed away and been saddled with billions of debt that we expect them to pay back on our behalf, all to 'protect' some very, very old and very, very sick people.
    paw patrol wrote: »
    not just the young. everybody should.
    I know I will

    If other absolute ****ing morons do that then the restrictions will be extended and prolonged for much longer than they need to be. But then that is exactly what you and your puppet masters want to happen. Your agenda is very clear.


  • #5067
    Blondini
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    Hopefully young people start organizing large-scale house parties.

    A campaign of widespread civil disobedience is called for.

    They have had their travel, sporting, social and employment opportunities flushed away and been saddled with billions of debt that we expect them to pay back on our behalf, all to 'protect' some very, very old and very, very sick people.

    And the award for internet Covid-tough-guy of the year goes to .... this poster.





    Acceptance speech here
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    v


  • #5068
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,831 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    John O.Groats wrote: »
    If other absolute ****ing morons do that then the restrictions will be extended and prolonged for much longer than they need to be. But then that is exactly what you and your puppet masters want to happen. Your agenda is very clear.

    do go on?


  • #5069
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Show me a quote from Fintan that said elderly people are not entitled to life.

    If you can't, stop arguing.

    Don`t presume to tell me what I can and can`t post about pal. Anyway read the most recent post from your other buddy facehugger for another example of what I am talking about.


  • #5070
    Tipsy McSwagger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    They call the plan “Living with Covid” but for many people it is “Existing with Covid”.

    Better than Living with Lucy


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  • #5071
    John O.Groats
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 837 ✭✭✭John O.Groats


    Blondini wrote: »
    And the award for internet Covid-tough-guy of the year goes to .... this poster.





    Acceptance speech here
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    v

    We will have to wait until his string pullers tell him what to say.


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