Relaxation of Restrictions, Part V - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

polesheep

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

But why should she have to take all the precautions and you none?

Just because she happens to be vulnerable? Anyone could be or become vulnerable to the virus.

I have just come back from a holiday in Italy. When swimming I was surrounded by bronzed Italians who moved in the sun completely carefree. I, on the other hand, had to lather myself in factor 50 suncream as a PRECAUTION against sunburn and possible skin cancer. I did not expect the bronzed Italians to take precautions on my behalf.

Zebra3

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

But why should she have to take all the precautions and you none?

Just because she happens to be vulnerable? Anyone could be or become vulnerable to the virus.

Why do I put a helmet on when I'm out cycling?

Why don't all cars slow down to 5km/h around me instead?

Selfish drivers.

weldoninhio

Zebra3 wrote: »

Why do I put a helmet on when I'm out cycling?

Why don't all cars slow down to 5km/h around me instead?

Selfish drivers.

It's mental. Some people literally want the world to hold their hand throughout life.

Micky 32

paw patrol wrote: »

you say this but ...lo and behold our 5 stages of covid has no plan to move on into a brave new (hopefully old) world None. Our lowest stage still has social distancing and other stuff...There is no plan to move on.


There is no measure to say either.

1. Our plan worked covid is a minor annoyance.
2. Our plan was sh1t we might as well give up.


Nothing.

If you go by history no rampant pandemic ever lasts. Seems an average of 2-3years and then life goes back to normal and has done everytime, life will find a way. The probability of this happening with Covid 19 is very high. We are nearly a year in since it started, the next year ( if no vaccine) should see changes.

Hmmm i wonder what all the misery merchants, lock us all up merchants, drama queens, the arrogant condescending posters will do when that happens? I’m sure they will be posting sh1te in the treehugger forums.

HeidiHeidi

Neither sunburn nor driving is an airborne, highly contagious virus.

But of course you know that already.

And on that note, I'm out.

Allinall

polesheep wrote: »

I have just come back from a holiday in Italy. When swimming I was surrounded by bronzed Italians who moved in the sun completely carefree. I, on the other hand, had to lather myself in factor 50 suncream as a PRECAUTION against sunburn and possible skin cancer. I did not expect the bronzed Italians to take precautions on my behalf.

Were you at risk of getting sunburn or possible skin cancer from the Italians?

weldoninhio

HeidiHeidi wrote: »

Neither sunburn nor driving is an airborne, highly contagious virus.

But of course you know that already.

And on that note, I'm out.

Careful out there. :rolleyes:

Zebra3

Micky 32 wrote: »

If you go by history no rampant pandemic ever lasts. Seems an average of 2-3years and then life goes back to normal and has done everytime, life will find a way. The probability of this happening with Covid 19 is very high. We are nearly a year in since it started, the next year ( if no vaccine) should see changes.

Hmmm i wonder what all the misery merchants, lock us all up merchants, drama queens, the arrogant condescending posters will do when that happens? I’m sure they will be posting sh1te in the treehugger forums.

They'll be constantly online looking for the next possible outbreak of something to warn us about.

I'd say plenty regret missing the dinosaurs getting whacked.

polesheep

Allinall wrote: »

Were you at risk of getting sunburn or possible skin cancer from the Italians?

No, from the sun, so I took precautions against the sun in the form of sunscreen. I did not expect the Italians to erect a giant sunscreen for my wellbeing.

Your question, however, is interesting. It exposes the fallacy behind the approach society has been driven to take against Covid. You are not at risk from other people, you are at risk from the virus. Therefore, you should protect yourself from the virus. The approach should always have been one of personal protection and not restricting other people.

Allinall

polesheep wrote: »

No, from the sun, so I took precautions against the sun in the form of sunscreen. I did not expect the Italians to erect a giant sunscreen for my wellbeing.

But the sun isn't a sentient being, capable of understanding the danger it holds.
Therefore you obviously cannot expect the sun to minimise the risks it poses.

People, on the other hand........

weldoninhio

polesheep wrote: »

No, from the sun, so I took precautions against the sun in the form of sunscreen. I did not expect the Italians to erect a giant sunscreen for my wellbeing.

They should have a lockdown during the hours that the sun is at it's hottest.

MadYaker

polesheep wrote: »

I have just come back from a holiday in Italy. When swimming I was surrounded by bronzed Italians who moved in the sun completely carefree. I, on the other hand, had to lather myself in factor 50 suncream as a PRECAUTION against sunburn and possible skin cancer. I did not expect the bronzed Italians to take precautions on my behalf.

The fact that you think this makes any sort of relevant point would suggest to me that your opinion on this matter is worthless. I’m glad you’ll never be in charge.

I’m not a selfish cnut, so I’m prepared to compromise my lifestyle so that EVERYONE can have as good a quality of life as possible while we get through this. That’s known as compassion.

I suppose you’ll come at me now with more nonsense about the economy, mental health, young people’s lives being destroyed (that’s me by way) etcetc. Spare us because you haven’t a clue like most people posting in this thread.

TomTomTim

MadYaker wrote: »

I’m not a selfish cnut

You are a sanctimonious one though

MadYaker

TomTomTim wrote: »

You are a sanctimonious one though

That may be true

polesheep

MadYaker wrote: »

The fact that you think this makes any sort of relevant point would suggest to me that your opinion on this matter is worthless. I’m glad you’ll never be in charge.

I’m not a selfish cnut, so I’m prepared to compromise my lifestyle so that EVERYONE can have as good a quality of life as possible while we get through this. That’s known as compassion.

I suppose you’ll come at me now with more nonsense about the economy, mental health, young people’s lives being destroyed (that’s me by way) etcetc. Spare us because you haven’t a clue like most people posting in this thread.

Anything on your twisting of my words earlier?

You are quite clearly a being of such magnitude and intellectual prowess that I dare not raise my eyes to gaze upon you.

BTW I disagree about the bit in bold.

Imagine hiring a PR company and announcing a 5 stage plan with Dublin starting at level 2.5

Farce once again

_Kaiser_

Just stuck on Newstalk again and Leo is on talking about the plan. Being announced now?

_Kaiser_

No Micheal? Or have they decided that people seem to think Leo is "better" at this stuff?

HeidiHeidi

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No Michael? Or have they decided that people seem to think Leo is "better" at this stuff?

He was on first.

But Leo is immeasurably better!

JeffKenna

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

No Micheal? Or have they decided that people seem to think Leo is "better" at this stuff?

He was on earlier.

BPKS

LOL - Leo in his plea to the people of Dublin saying "This is September - the month we usually show the rest of the country what we are made of"

He wouldn't know a football if it smacked him in the face - which it probably would

polesheep

polesheep wrote: »

No, from the sun, so I took precautions against the sun in the form of sunscreen. I did not expect the Italians to erect a giant sunscreen for my wellbeing.

Your question, however, is interesting. It exposes the fallacy behind the approach society has been driven to take against Covid. You are not at risk from other people, you are at risk from the virus. Therefore, you should protect yourself from the virus. The approach should always have been one of personal protection and not restricting other people.

This is nonsense. You are consistently missing the point. Highly infectious virus' are not the same as sun burn. One can be spread from person to person unbeknownst to them.

Hellrazer

Leos funny with his 4 "W"s

Micheal Martin - Wanker
Stephen Donnelly - Wanker
Ronan Glynn - Wanker
Leo Varadkar - Loosing his teeth - Fast becoming a Wanker

4 "W"s is right!!!

HeidiHeidi

Deleted User wrote: »

This is nonsense. You are consistently missing the point. Highly infectious virus' are not the same as sun burn. One can be spread from person to person unbeknownst to them.

Don't even bother.

Gael23

Would the creation of a vaccine not allow removal of all restrictions?

Zarco

Gael23 wrote: »

Would the creation of a vaccine not allow removal of all restrictions?

The masks will stay for a time

Gael23

Zarco wrote: »

The masks will stay for a time

That’s fine but what about large community or social clubs? Many will simply disappear

As expected, an absolute disaster today. More mixed messaging and nothing of any substance. Complete lack of leadership.

They have lost even more people today.

Zarco

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As expected, an absolute disaster today. More mixed messaging and nothing of any substance. Complete lack of leadership.

They have lost even more people today.

Albert Reynolds had the right idea, a 1 page Man he said himself

All these levels and colours and numbers and distances is too much detail plus the constant uncertainty

Ends up with everything being ignored

polesheep

Deleted User wrote: »

This is nonsense. You are consistently missing the point. Highly infectious virus' are not the same as sun burn. One can be spread from person to person unbeknownst to them.

I am not missing any point. If you don't want to catch the virus then protect yourself. Stop expecting me to protect you. This is the way the wind is finally starting to blow.