Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

15-09-2020 11:41AM

The Nal wrote: »

This is allowed right? A pub without a kitchen is able to order in outside food and charge €9?

I thought they need a license for food. Could be wrong though

MrStuffins · 15-09-2020 11:42AM

The Nal wrote: »

This is allowed right? A pub without a kitchen is able to order in outside food and charge €9?

Yup, this is allowed

Open the Pubs · 15-09-2020 11:47AM

The Nal wrote: »

This is allowed right? A pub without a kitchen is able to order in outside food and charge €9?

I was recently away in a pub in Wexford and the routine was he ordered food delivery from the local chippers around 2 times a day. As with anything else it really depends on how hard the local Gardaí are on the pub in question.

One of my local pubs is quite well run and does very well, but he has a bad relationship with Gardaí and they have made life very difficult for him during the pandemic. They told him they would challenge his license if he isn't squeaky clean for the next while.

15-09-2020 11:48AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

Yup, this is allowed

What about health and safety? Surely some kind of license is required

hetuzozaho · 15-09-2020 11:49AM

MrStuffins wrote: »

This is a winner for everyone, right?

As far as I know the pubs that had the issues were the rural ones? Are there many pubs in Dublin that can't avail of the current guidelines on food etc.?

Yeah it's good news the rural ones are opening. And I think some of the closed Dublin ones will just start serving something. I know one planning to anyway.

I think they should have been clearer though, the guidelines don't align with what his happening now on Monday, which isn't good enough imo

The Nal · 15-09-2020 11:53AM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about health and safety? Surely some kind of license is required

It doesnt say either way. Just a "substantial meal". Eating outside food on the premises was always the publicans choice so I don't see anything different here. 12 inch pizza in a box, provide a few napkins. Done.

Open the Pubs · 15-09-2020 11:58AM

Anyone dare to guess a date when nightclubs would be allowed back open. It's not allowed even on Level 1. Are nightclubs and casinos, finished as an industry in Ireland?

stephenjmcd · 15-09-2020 12:08PM

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Anyone dare to guess a date when nightclubs would be allowed back open. It's not allowed even on Level 1. Are nightclubs and casinos, finished as an industry in Ireland?

Until a vaccine

Kerrydude1981 · 15-09-2020 12:10PM

Will regular opening hours return?

Few of the wet pubs that opened down here doing food open at 5pm each day

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 12:14PM

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Anyone dare to guess a date when nightclubs would be allowed back open. It's not allowed even on Level 1. Are nightclubs and casinos, finished as an industry in Ireland?

Nightclubs - vaccine

Casinos - they've flown under the government's radar for a while now, they'll be open when the government figures out their cut.

dominatinMC · 15-09-2020 12:26PM

Open the Pubs wrote: »

Anyone dare to guess a date when nightclubs would be allowed back open. It's not allowed even on Level 1. Are nightclubs and casinos, finished as an industry in Ireland?

I'm all for nightlife to return as it was before, but surely nightclubs are off-limits until a vaccine is rolled-out? Probably a similar story for a lot of concerts and other live music events. In fairness, who the hell wants a socially-distant concert...that's an oxymoron if ever I heard one! :pac:

MoodeRator · 15-09-2020 12:29PM

So if we are now Stage 2, "Wet Pubs" are now open ? https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/

bigpink · 15-09-2020 12:35PM

Open the Pubs wrote: »

I was recently away in a pub in Wexford and the routine was he ordered food delivery from the local chippers around 2 times a day. As with anything else it really depends on how hard the local Gardaí are on the pub in question.

One of my local pubs is quite well run and does very well, but he has a bad relationship with Gardaí and they have made life very difficult for him during the pandemic. They told him they would challenge his license if he isn't squeaky clean for the next while.

Why does he have a bad relationship with the Gardai?

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 12:41PM

MoodeRator wrote: »

So if we are now Stage 2, "Wet Pubs" are now open ? https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/

From Monday yes, except for Dublin which is at stage 2 but has level 3 and 4 restrictions mixed in, but is definitely at level 2, it's not confusing at all.....

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 12:41PM

Deleted User wrote: »

What about health and safety? Surely some kind of license is required

They took that requirement away at the start of the pandemic. Health and safety doesn't matter during a pandemic or something.

hetuzozaho · 15-09-2020 12:42PM

MoodeRator wrote: »

So if we are now Stage 2, "Wet Pubs" are now open ? https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/

Even at stage 4 they are open with seats outside only.

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 12:45PM

MoodeRator wrote: »

So if we are now Stage 2, "Wet Pubs" are now open ? https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/18e18-level-2/

We're apparently at stage 2.5 in Dublin, which makes little sense, since "wet" pubs can be open even at stage 4 according to their plan. We really have clowns running the show.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/#wet-pubs

Wet pubs
Outdoor seating only, limited to a maximum of 15 patrons.

Nightclubs, discos and casinos

Nightclubs, discos and casinos will remain closed.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000 · 15-09-2020 12:46PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

We're apparently at stage 2.5 in Dublin, which makes little sense, since "wet" pubs can be open even at stage 4 according to their plan. We really have clowns running the show.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/#wet-pubs

Wet pubs
Outdoor seating only, limited to a maximum of 15 patrons.

Nightclubs, discos and casinos

Nightclubs, discos and casinos will remain closed.

What a mess.

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 12:47PM

Good news, if we find ourselves in level 5 lockdown, non food pubs will be open for *checks notes* food delivery.......

A thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters.

lawred2 · 15-09-2020 12:48PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

We're apparently at stage 2.5 in Dublin, which makes little sense, since "wet" pubs can be open even at stage 4 according to their plan. We really have clowns running the show.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc29a-level-4/#wet-pubs

Wet pubs
Outdoor seating only, limited to a maximum of 15 patrons.

Nightclubs, discos and casinos

Nightclubs, discos and casinos will remain closed.

well they can be open for "outdoor" seating only

PTH2009 · 15-09-2020 12:54PM

Level 3/4 outdoor seating

Me bullock's is that working for some places esp with possible weather

At least from Monday no obligation no buy food and we can enjoy a pint til 11pm (well outside of Dublin)

weldoninhio · 15-09-2020 12:59PM

lawred2 wrote: »

well they can be open for "outdoor" seating only

But Dublin at level 2 can't. It's ridiculous.

Assetbacked · 15-09-2020 01:00PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

Level 3/4 outdoor seating

Me bullock's is that working for some places esp with possible weather

At least from Monday no obligation no buy food and we can enjoy a pint til 11pm (well outside of Dublin)

To be fair, as far as I can see, most pubs in Dublin do food. I haven't looked in detail at the new restrictions but is there clear enforcement planned for pubs in Dublin claiming to do food or is the continued enforcement of that rule absent in the guidance?

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 15-09-2020 01:12PM

Do you still have to order food in a pub that serves food from Monday & do they still have the time restriction?

hynesie08 · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

MattS1 wrote: »

Do you still have to order food in a pub that serves food from Monday & do they still have the time restriction?

Time restrictions apply if 2m social distancing doesn't.

Technically you won't have to order food, gonna be interesting to see how that works out.

hetuzozaho · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

MattS1 wrote: »

Do you still have to order food in a pub that serves food from Monday & do they still have the time restriction?

Yep you still need to order food.

Time restriction applies if less than 2m social distance I think, and my understanding is this was always the case.

SusieBlue · 15-09-2020 01:15PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

I don't know why this door handles thing comes up.

If you've 7 people in your house and 1 person has it there's a big chance 7 will have it after a night of wine and cheese. No door handle licking needed.

That's why they want 6 from 3 households and talk of 2 households in Dublin now to stop spread.

Where I live has the second lowest rate of infection in the whole country. All invitees are either unemployed or working from home. 4 of said invitees live together in a house share, so only 3 households are involved.

I assessed the risk and came to the conclusion that it was safe enough to go ahead with. To me the benefit for all of us outweighs the risk.
As I said before, I will absolutely take sensible precautions but the downright hysterical & nasty reaction to what I posted is a clear sign of why those in favour of restrictions are losing support by the day.
In your personal opinion, based on what I posted above, do you feel I should be legally prosecuted for my ‘selfish and reckless’ actions?
Or can you acknowledge that arresting someone for something like that is absolute hyperbole?

Nobody here is even waiting to find out more information any more, they cast judgments and accusations my way without any clue of how many close contacts I have or what else I’m doing to be responsible.
That’s why I’m saying I won’t feel guilty, because these people clearly have no interest in reasoned debate or logic.
They are only interested in finger wagging from their high horses and after listening to them for the last 6 months day in day out, I just have no interest in it any more and won’t entertain it.
If other people want to play the martyr they can work away but I won’t be doing it, and if they think Irish people will spend Christmas holed up in their houses avoiding most of their friends and family then they’re in for a serious disappointment, cause it won’t happen.

hetuzozaho · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

Technically you won't have to order food, gonna be interesting to see how that works out.

How come?

PTH2009 · 15-09-2020 01:16PM

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Yep you still need to order food.

Time restriction applies if less than 2m social distance I think, and my understanding is this was always the case.

you don't have to order food

_feedback_ · 15-09-2020 01:17PM

MattS1 wrote: »

Do you still have to order food in a pub that serves food from Monday & do they still have the time restriction?

hynesie08 wrote: »

Time restrictions apply if 2m social distancing doesn't.

Technically you won't have to order food, gonna be interesting to see how that works out.

hetuzozaho wrote: »

Yep you still need to order food.

Time restriction applies if less than 2m social distance I think, and my understanding is this was always the case.

hetuzozaho wrote: »

How come?

PTH2009 wrote: »

you don't have to order food

We're all clear Micheál, cheers for clearing that up

Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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