Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Naos wrote: »

Thanks for that, although still a bit confusing:

"Under the plan, working from home where possible will remain the advice up to level three, at which level people will be told to stay home unless absolutely necessary."

So WFH advised up to level three, yet four & five are worse than three so they would also be WFH if possible? Unless I'm reading this sentence completely wrong.

4 and 5 are essentially back to March and April in terms of WFH, offices closed etc thats my reading of 4 & 5.

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

Question,

If i get run down by a bus tonight and have to go to ICU, they test me and find I have COVID, do I get added to the COVID ICU stats even though I am in hospital for totally unrelated issue?

For most people in hospital with Covid, having Covid is the reason for their admission or a significant factor in their admission. At current incidence rates, you are very, very unlucky if you happen to get knocked down by a bus and also happen to be carrying Covid at the same time. (Maybe it’s really bad karma for not staying at home!) That may explain the odd anecdotal case but not the majority.

Happening to have Covid while being admitted for a completely unrelated issue does not explain the rising number of people in hospital with Covid. Patients were also in hospital for other reasons in June and July and numbers of patients in hospital with Covid dropped to about 10.

Even if Covid is not the reason for admission, it could end up being a major determining factor in a patient’s outcome. If someone is in hospital with exacerbation of heart failure or sepsis or after a stroke, Covid may be the final straw. They may have recovered without Covid but because of Covid don’t recover or have a longer hospital stay with more complications.

People are often in hospital for more than one reason. One illness is often a major factor in the severity of another. Maybe you would not end up in hospital with a chest infection if you didn’t have emphysema or asthma. Maybe you would not have gone in to a diabetic coma if you didn’t have an ulcer that got infected and drove your blood sugars crazy. Doesn’t mean you don’t have both an ulcer and diabetes and that both don’t need treatment.

Happy4all wrote: »

The original point I made stands. People will send in receipts innocently expecting a rebate, and oblivious to the underpayment accruing under the wage subsidy scheme. They will trigger a P21 balancing statement, that might never have issued if the receipts were never submitted.

No this is not true. Revenue are tracking all taxes owed to them, and once back to work, recipients of the pup or the first subsidy scheme will have tax credits reduced to recoup the cost. The money is owed to Revenue, and they will collect it. Difference is that it will be recouped over a couple of years rather than just one.....

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Big treatment news in the last few hours.

University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine scientists have isolated the smallest biological molecule to date that completely and specifically neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the cause of COVID-19. This antibody component, which is 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody, has been used to construct a drug—known as Ab8—for potential use as a therapeutic and prophylactic against SARS-CoV-2.

The researchers report today in the journal Cell that Ab8 is highly effective in preventing and treating SARS-CoV-2 infection in mice and hamsters. Its tiny size not only increases its potential for diffusion in tissues to better neutralize the virus, but also makes it possible to administer the drug by alternative routes, including inhalation. Importantly, it does not bind to human cells—a good sign that it won’t have negative side-effects in people.

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/pitt-scientists-discover-tiny-antibody-component-highly-effective-preventing-and-treating-sars

Caveat emptor, I’m shocked you didn’t find this positive, good news story to post from the day. Guess you must have just missed it, right.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Wait until they find out that I found it on Twitter...
Hilarious how they don't like the post either, by the way.

I do find it interesting that you’ll never see any likes put on positive info posts from a certain cohort on here but you’ll see them put on the ‘we’re all doomed ‘info posts.

spookwoman wrote: »

Yes it could explain the fetish for misery.

s1ippy wrote: »

Seeing as there was briefly a discussion about how the PUP recipients will be shafted in coming years, let's take a look at how the other side are doing.

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/oliver-callan-swift-covid-19-action-exposes-state-dithering-on-misbehaving-industries-1.4354592

A lot of salient points here about corporate landlords, meat plants, insurance companies and tech firms - the real winners in all this heinous sh!t. If I were coming out significantly financially better from this, at the expense of a huge segment of the population, I'd regard it as an utterly pyrrhic victory. But that ethical standpoint doesn't even enter the equation for those at the top, who leech off the population and are protected at every turn from accountability. Maybe it's a victimless crime to them; like punching someone in the dark.

Yep. Here in the US Amazon, target, Walmart etc profits are off the charts. In Amazon's case, its up 100%. Target and Walmart not far off. Meanwhile, as early as May it was estimated that 100000 small businesses had already shut down permanently. Its a money grab and unsurprisingly, the rich get richer.

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Is there somewhere with a decent summary of the proposed 5 levels?

I read somewhere that it needs Level 5 for restaurants to have to close except for takeaway, but an article in the examiner said only Level 3 was required to close them except for takeaway?

1: tis grand
2: we're looking a bit fecked but tis grand
3. Bloody house parties
4: Trampolines can kill ye
5: Where's Leo and Simon?

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Big treatment news in the last few hours.

University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine scientists have isolated the smallest biological molecule to date that completely and specifically neutralizes the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which is the cause of COVID-19. This antibody component, which is 10 times smaller than a full-sized antibody, has been used to construct a drug—known as Ab8—for potential use as a therapeutic and prophylactic against SARS-CoV-2.

The researchers report today in the journal Cell that Ab8 is highly effective in preventing and treating SARS-CoV-2 infection in mice and hamsters. Its tiny size not only increases its potential for diffusion in tissues to better neutralize the virus, but also makes it possible to administer the drug by alternative routes, including inhalation. Importantly, it does not bind to human cells—a good sign that it won’t have negative side-effects in people.

https://www.pittwire.pitt.edu/news/pitt-scientists-discover-tiny-antibody-component-highly-effective-preventing-and-treating-sars

Someone in my family has a condition and it seems like every few months there is news about some treatment that works on mice. This is going on years. Mice aren’t humans.

According to the Journal there's a press conference expected before 12 to announce the plan and restrictions.

National 'Living with Covid' plan to be announced this morning, but Dublin pubs reopening to be paused again https://jrnl.ie/5204441

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

According to the Journal there's a press conference expected before 12 to announce the plan and restrictions.

National 'Living with Covid' plan to be announced this morning, but Dublin pubs reopening to be paused again https://jrnl.ie/5204441

It's a trap for MM, Leo won't be long pulling the rug from underneath him once it's published. There's little appetite out there for more restrictions and he knows the numbers have been fudged.

Looking forward to Jennifer Zamparelli at 9am twitter is in outrage mode were even having a discussion. Can only be a good thing.