Delivery drones

zell12 · 12-09-2020 8:15am #1

Tesco starting deliveries via drone in Oranmore in October
max 4kg loads though
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-54102580 https://www.irishexaminer.com/business/technology/arid-40046324.html

Any other companies doing this in Galway?
I'm only aware of one delivering medication from mainland to Arainn. How long before the skies are humming with these and people object?

tom1ie · 12-09-2020 8:18am

Deliveroo and just eat next I wonder?

flazio · 12-09-2020 7:56pm

I can see the toerags throwing the bricks already. (Hypothetically)

BorneTobyWilde · 12-09-2020 7:59pm

How do they work? Do they need to be controlled by man?

fergiesfolly · 12-09-2020 8:20pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How do they work? Do they need to be controlled by man?

I think one man(or woman) monitors but doesn't actually fly several drones. They are sent to a gps location. Once there, the customer receives a text or app message and once acknowledged, the drone lands.

LostDuck · 13-09-2020 7:50am

Overhead cables must be a big challenge.

sgthighway · 13-09-2020 8:38am

LostDuck wrote: »

Overhead cables must be a big challenge.

Most cables are going underground anymore where new housing estates or footpaths go in.

13-09-2020 8:54am

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How do they work? Do they need to be controlled by man?

I used to work for a company that designed drones. What they will probably do is do a manually operated trial to various locations and save it as a flight plan. Then an operator just selects that flight plan when going to a certain area.

They've gotten incredibly advanced in just a few short years.

ExMachina1000 · 13-09-2020 9:26am

flazio wrote: »

I can see the toerags throwing the bricks already. (Hypothetically)

Follow it and wait until it stops for delivery. You'll never manage to get it while its moving

13-09-2020 11:50am

I do foresee some compensation claims. "The rotor cut my hand", "it interferes with my broadband", "it squashed my cat".

thesandeman · 13-09-2020 2:14pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How do they work? Do they need to be controlled by man?

I presume some women could be trained to do it as well.
It would actually be more economical in the long run as they could be paid less than the men once they get the hang of it.

backspacer · 13-09-2020 2:18pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I do foresee some compensation claims. "The rotor cut my hand", "it interferes with my broadband", "it squashed my cat".

They don't land normally, usually drop from a harness attached to the drone

LostDuck · 13-09-2020 7:17pm

Here's the drone in action;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTJKo15rqtc

inisboffin · 13-09-2020 7:56pm

Wow! Maybe it's a criminal mind

but I keep thinking of ways this could be sabotaged in denser areas. My mind went all Oliver Twist with hooks and trained falcons :pac:

beertons · 13-09-2020 7:58pm

Target practice coming up to Halloween?

Discodog · 13-09-2020 8:37pm

What could possibly go wrong ? :pac:

Mrs OBumble · 13-09-2020 9:02pm

inisboffin wrote: »

Wow! Maybe it's a criminal mind but I keep thinking of ways this could be sabotaged in denser areas. My mind went all Oliver Twist with hooks and trained falcons :pac:

Indeed. Both areas with high population density, and ones with dense populations, could be challenging.

Discodog · 13-09-2020 9:09pm

What happens after one of these crashes ? There is potential to cause serious injury & chaos if it crashed on a road or vehicle.

I wonder what insurance cover they have ?

14-09-2020 8:29am

Some people really only can think of the negatives. I heard this and thought “cool be great to see this in action”. Others hear it and all they think of is insurance and crashes.

Discodog · 14-09-2020 8:35am

Sloan Substantial Flea wrote: »

Some people really only can think of the negatives. I heard this and thought “cool be great to see this in action”. Others hear it and all they think of is insurance and crashes.

Oh the irony

A big lump of material, flying over the city, by remote control. I would of thought you, of all people, would be concerned about the risk.

Kingp35 · 14-09-2020 12:17pm

Sounds brilliant, I can't wait to try it out.

inisboffin · 14-09-2020 1:51pm

Sloan Substantial Flea wrote: »

Some people really only can think of the negatives. I heard this and thought “cool be great to see this in action”. Others hear it and all they think of is insurance and crashes.

Perhaps I would get more excited if the risk/reward ratio was more balanced, like medicine or search and rescue for the reward, vs a pizza :pac:

I like the idea and the tech of occasional drones, but the idea of this being a consumer norm in the skies seems awful.

You can like the concept but also see the possible outcome, and not feel the same you know.

thesandeman · 14-09-2020 4:48pm

I presume all the storks are going to be made redundant now?

LostDuck · 14-09-2020 5:44pm

We'll be one step closer to The Jetsons.

flazio · 14-09-2020 6:42pm

I'd be a bit concerned about Rahoon, Newcastle and Shantalla surrounding UCHG. Can be a pretty busy airspace with the Aero medical and the Coast Guard helicopters.

_Whimsical_ · 14-09-2020 7:53pm

flazio wrote: »

I'd be a bit concerned about Rahoon, Newcastle and Shantalla surrounding UCHG. Can be a pretty busy airspace with the Aero medical and the Coast Guard helicopters.

They've said that they have already linked up with those services and once they are notified that they are in the air the drones will stop working until the airspace is clear again.

14-09-2020 8:35pm

flazio wrote: »

I'd be a bit concerned about Rahoon, Newcastle and Shantalla surrounding UCHG. Can be a pretty busy airspace with the Aero medical and the Coast Guard helicopters.

None of those area are 2km from Oranmore.

Citizenpain · 06-11-2020 9:06pm

Anyone try it yet?

beardybrewer · 07-11-2020 10:59am

Also curious about this and what they charge for it. Maybe the charge is subsidised for the trial but my thinking is it would be pretty expensive yet the payload pretty small. It could be a €25 delivery fee for €20 worth of goods because of weight.

zell12 · 07-11-2020 11:51am

the aircraft base taking off and landing from the roof of the Tesco building at the edge of the town, delivering groceries, pharmacy items, hardware, medications and hot meals to the estimated 8,000 residents of Oranmore
Manna will provide delivery to frontline workers free of charge. It will also waive the pharmacy delivery fee for the elderly.
To receive deliveries customers in the local area can go to a website and place delivery orders using their EirCode to specify the destination for delivery.

That's ten separate stores, including Supermacs and coffee shops
Order here
https://oranmore.manna.aero/faq.html

zell12 · 07-11-2020 11:52am

Delivery zone November 2020
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Citizenpain · 07-11-2020 2:52pm

beardybrewer wrote: »

Also curious about this and what they charge for it. Maybe the charge is subsidised for the trial but my thinking is it would be pretty expensive yet the payload pretty small. It could be a €25 delivery fee for €20 worth of goods because of weight.

€5 delivery , just ordered

Citizenpain · 07-11-2020 3:14pm

Citizenpain wrote: »

€5 delivery , just ordered

And just canceled because it’s too busy

Wompa1 · 10-11-2020 9:43am

When longer range and longer duration drones are more affordable and available to use for this kind of thing, it could revolutionize retail and service. Businesses in the city will increase their reach significantly.

Not so sure it would work so well in the city though. Probably just flying from the city out.

Citizenpain · 10-11-2020 10:07am

Citizenpain wrote: »

And just canceled because it’s too busy

Trying again for this afternoon

Storm 10 · 10-11-2020 12:01pm

How do the Drones fly in avoiding obstacles like power lines etc

dmc17 · 10-11-2020 12:59pm

Storm 10 wrote: »

How do the Drones fly in avoiding obstacles like power lines etc

I imagine they maintain an altitude above obstacles until they reach the drop off point and drop down then. Probably sensors/pilot need to ensure no obstacles below from that point.

Sconsey · 10-11-2020 2:19pm

Citizenpain wrote: »

Trying again for this afternoon

This is really cool stuff, please let us know how it goes of you do get an order through.

Citizenpain · 10-11-2020 6:24pm

Sconsey wrote: »

This is really cool stuff, please let us know how it goes of you do get an order through.

Coffee delivered intact

dropped on a cord and released when on ground . Pretty large drone

Psychlops · 10-11-2020 11:33pm

Citizenpain wrote: »

Coffee delivered intact dropped on a cord and released when on ground . Pretty large drone

Should have made a video!

washman3 · 10-11-2020 11:51pm

thesandeman wrote: »

I presume some women could be trained to do it as well.
It would actually be more economical in the long run as they could be paid less than the men once they get the hang of it.

Especially when they dont have to reverse, park or use indicators...:p

cooperguy · 11-11-2020 12:05am

inisboffin wrote: »

Perhaps I would get more excited if the risk/reward ratio was more balanced, like medicine or search and rescue for the reward, vs a pizza :pac:

I think you might be over estimating the risk

dmc17 · 11-11-2020 9:30am

Psychlops wrote: »

Should have made a video!

Plenty videos of it in action on their social media pages

https://twitter.com/MannaAero/

11-11-2020 11:49am

inisboffin wrote: »

Perhaps I would get more excited if the risk/reward ratio was more balanced, like medicine or search and rescue for the reward, vs a pizza :pac:

They are already used in search and rescue and supplying medicine.

Whats the risk you forsee?

Effects · 11-11-2020 12:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Whats the risk you forsee?

The usual, what if it falls on my head/car/house or crashes into an airplane.

Discodog · 11-11-2020 12:06pm

Effects wrote: »

The usual, what if it falls on my head/car/house or crashes into an airplane.

Well according to them it's fool proof & using a lot of personnel.

The drone delivery service is very safe and the Manna drone has multiple safety systems in place should there be any issue. In the extremely unlikely event of a total flight failure, the drone has a parachute attached that will deploy and bring it gently to the ground.

Manna also has additional safety procedures in place for this trial. At any point a trained and licensed pilot can take control of the drone if there is a suspected problem. We also have trained spotters along the route and at the drop off point and these personnel are in constant radio communication with the pilot and the reserve pilot.

https://oranmore.manna.aero/faq.html

stopthevoting · 11-11-2020 12:20pm

They have a pilot, a reserve pilot, and personnel along the route, and at the drop off point.
Someone still has to travel to the destination by road anyway. It can't be economical, and must be a trial with the expectation that the regulations may be relaxed when it has been proven to be safe. It is like the old days when a man with a red flag had to walk along in front of a motor car.

Discodog · 11-11-2020 12:21pm

stopthevoting wrote: »

They have a pilot, a reserve pilot, and personnel along the route, and at the drop off point.
Someone still has to travel to the destination by road anyway. It can't be economical, and must be a trial with the expectation that the regulations may be relaxed when it has been proven to be safe. It is like the old days when a man with a read flag had to walk along in front of a motor car.

More like a man with a big net

11-11-2020 12:42pm

stopthevoting wrote: »

They have a pilot, a reserve pilot, and personnel along the route, and at the drop off point.
Someone still has to travel to the destination by road anyway. It can't be economical, and must be a trial with the expectation that the regulations may be relaxed when it has been proven to be safe. It is like the old days when a man with a red flag had to walk along in front of a motor car.

The question on my mind is, is there a reserve chute?

Effects · 11-11-2020 1:03pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The question on my mind is, is there a reserve chute?

Sounds like even if it had a reserve chute, you'd still want a second reserve chute.

11-11-2020 1:20pm

Effects wrote: »

Sounds like even if it had a reserve chute, you'd still want a second reserve chute.

You are taking me up wrong, or confusing me with another poster.

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