John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

joeysoap · 29-08-2020 03:09PM

I though you said hook there for a minute

(for the noose)

Zebra3 · 29-08-2020 03:36PM

shanec1928 wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/gardai-quiz-two-former-senior-22596222

Is the noose starting to get tighter?

Some of the stuff in there is incredible.

Big fees to pay somebody to arrange games against England.

She says did nothing and took no money and the English FA never heard of her.

01-09-2020 12:05PM

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm.

He's wrong ito dismiss it all as a conspiracy theory, it's perfectly legitimate to question the links between the chair and the FAI's largest creditor...

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/there-is-no-conspiracy-here-39493695.html

stockshares · 01-09-2020 01:00PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm.

He's wrong ito dismiss it all as a conspiracy theory, it's perfectly legitimate to question the links between the chair and the FAI's largest creditor...

https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/there-is-no-conspiracy-here-39493695.html

This story is Trending on Twitter.

Zebra3 · 13-09-2020 11:56AM

Two more pieces on Delaney in today's Indo ahead of the book launch.

stockshares · 13-09-2020 12:14PM

Mark Tighe is on Brendan O Connor on Rte Radio 1 now.

Fai paid 1 million to cover his personal bills.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/fai-paid-1m-to-cover-john-delaneys-personal-bills-js39s0vh8

Edit:
Radio interview just ended. It might be on the player within a few days for those who missed it.

Shocking carry on at the party. Clearly thought he was above everybody and entitled to the loot

stockshares · 13-09-2020 02:12PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Two more pieces on Delaney in today's Indo ahead of the book launch.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/a-rock-and-a-hard-place-how-john-delaney-pinned-fai-to-sign-deal-39526199.html

kippy · 13-09-2020 04:44PM

The stuff this guy was let away with for the past decade or more is mind-blowing. No surprises at this stage but the fact that no criminal or civil charges have been filed 18 months after the initial stories broke is worrying. The guy is working away, happy out.
To think Delaney even tried to block the initial publication of these stories with FAI money? Absolutely shocking stuff.
Now I do believe more state money needs to go into all sports including soccer but it's clear that strong accountability is required from the organisations involved....

irishgeo · 13-09-2020 05:29PM

kippy wrote: »

The stuff this guy was let away with for the past decade or more is mind-blowing. No surprises at this stage but the fact that no criminal or civil charges have been filed 18 months after the initial stories broke is worrying. The guy is working away, happy out.
To think Delaney even tried to block the initial publication of these stories with FAI money? Absolutely shocking stuff.
Now I do believe more state money needs to go into all sports including soccer but it's clear that strong accountability is required from the organisations involved....

white collar crime takes a long time to investigate, look at the Anglo debacle. Lets hope they have learned their lessons from that.

looking forward to the book, have it on pre-order.

stockshares · 14-09-2020 03:19PM

Payments to Delaney's former Girlfriend Susan Keegan might lead to his prosecution. Here's hoping. How hes walking around after all he's stroked tells you how corrupt this place is. There has been no attempt made to even recoup the money he's taken.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/payments-to-delaney-s-former-girlfriend-could-prove-key-to-potential-prosecution-1.4353884?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Quotes from article
Delaney, though, is understood to have sought board approval for a substantial bonus from the association’s board for his part in securing the saving offered by the original KKR. A former board member says that he felt he was entitled to the payment for what he regarded as his part in securing the write down and was deeply disappointed when he was, it is said, told that there was no scope to pay a bonus given the scale of his existing remuneration.

It is understood that the detail of the payments to Keegan were really only examined around that time when then president Donal Conway and then director of finance, Alex O’Connell, sought to untangle some of the specific financial issues around Delaney’s dealings with his former employer in the wake of initial revelations.
The pair are believed to have found that a cheque made out to Keegan for €25,000 was lodged to Delaney’s account and that an invoice, purportedly from Keegan for €35,000 was effectively generated within the association’s own system. The Sunday Times have reported that it was created by a Microsoft Office account registered to JDelaney@fai.ie.

The book is out Thursday.

josip · 14-09-2020 03:27PM

stockshares wrote: »

Payments to Delaney's former Girlfriend Susan Keegan might lead to his prosecution.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/payments-to-delaney-s-former-girlfriend-could-prove-key-to-potential-prosecution-1.4353884?mode=amp&__twitter_impression=true

Hard reading.
Some of the parents in my kid's teams would struggle to pay the annual registration fee.
They might go on a (more expensive) monthly payments or would have to wait another month to have the money.
They do that because they want their kids to play ball and the kids enjoy playing ball.
And then to think that some of that registration fee was being siphoned off by the parasite(s) at the top.

stockshares · 14-09-2020 03:33PM

josip wrote: »

Hard reading.
Some of the parents in my kid's teams would struggle to pay the annual registration fee.
They might go on a (more expensive) monthly payments or would have to wait another month to have the money.
They do that because they want their kids to play ball and the kids enjoy playing ball.
And then to think that some of that registration fee was being siphoned off by the parasite(s) at the top.

I'm not sure I could stomach the whole book tbh. Your blood would be boiling reading it.

Also I think Mark Tighe might be profiting from this story too in the same way that Paul Williams profits off crime by writing his books.

I could be wrong though. Maybe the profits are going to some cause or other. He has done a great job in exposing the FAI though but the book is a bit opportunistic.

14-09-2020 03:41PM

stockshares wrote: »

Also I think Mark Tighe might be profiting from this story too in the same way that Paul Williams profits off crime by writing his books.

I'm not sure Williams ever really blows open a story and brings down criminal enterprises.

Without Tighe, it's hard to know if this story would have come to light at all, when, how etc. He is entitled to a few euros, he blew the lid off the entire operation. He did so in the face of legal threats, with little support. It was far more Woodward and Bernstein than Paul Williams.

Father Hernandez · 14-09-2020 03:45PM

stockshares wrote: »

I'm not sure I could stomach the whole book tbh. Your blood would be boiling reading it.

Also I think Mark Tighe might be profiting from this story too in the same way that Paul Williams profits off crime by writing his books.

I could be wrong though. Maybe the profits are going to some cause or other. He has done a great job in exposing the FAI though but the book is a bit opportunistic.

I'd hope he makes a few quid out of it, he deserves it.

Without him, we'd only really know the very tip of the iceberg and JD would more than likely still be happy out on the gravy train.

TFBubendorfer · 14-09-2020 04:25PM

stockshares wrote: »

Also I think Mark Tighe might be profiting from this story too in the same way that Paul Williams profits off crime by writing his books.

I could be wrong though. Maybe the profits are going to some cause or other. He has done a great job in exposing the FAI though but the book is a bit opportunistic.

Nice try, John

stockshares · 14-09-2020 04:44PM

sugarman wrote: »

What rubbish, he has to make a living just like anyone else. How many hours do you think he has put into the research he has done alone? Endless days and nights trawling through thousands of documents for the past 18 months, fighting for legal privileges etc.. we owe him a hell of a lot more for what he has done than a few quid he might earn from publishing the book.

I could be wrong. I know he has to make a living and I don't begrudge him and he has done a great job on it.

I'm not sure what the procedure is with investigative journalism but I imagine the story should have been run through the paper to its conclusion. After that a book could be written on it. I think this has happened with other scandals

My point is what happens if no one buys it? What happens to the story then?

I think by holding back the story until the book is published he has lost momentum. When this story broke initially it led to hearings(although they petered out) and was the main story on current affairs TV shows at the time but it has since faded into the background.

Remember while waiting for the rest of this story to be revealed in the book a lot has been going on at the FAI during this time and those stories would have had a lot if influence.

kippy · 14-09-2020 05:53PM

stockshares wrote: »

I could be wrong. I know he has to make a living and I don't begrudge him and he has done a great job on it.

I'm not sure what the procedure is with investigative journalism but I imagine the story should have been run through the paper to its conclusion. After that a book could be written on it. I think this has happened with other scandals

My point is what happens if no one buys it? What happens to the story then?

I think by holding back the story until the book is published he has lost momentum. When this story broke initially it led to hearings(although they petered out) and was the main story on current affairs TV shows at the time but it has since faded into the background.

Remember while waiting for the rest of this story to be revealed in the book a lot has been going on at the FAI during this time and those stories would have had a lot if influence.

It shouldn't be up to the journalist as to what happens next. You are attempting to blame him if this just "goes away".
He has every right to write a book - if you don't like it don't buy it but it won't be his fault of this just "goes away".

He opened the door (against some serious legal issues) shone the light, and exposed what needed to be exposed.
One would hope that the various groups currently involved in investigating these issues bring everything to a natural conclusion.
If not, then one would hope the media at large would contine to ask why?

irishgeo · 14-09-2020 06:08PM

It's gone quiet because legal proceedings are underway.

Zebra3 · 14-09-2020 07:06PM

josip wrote: »

Hard reading.
Some of the parents in my kid's teams would struggle to pay the annual registration fee.
They might go on a (more expensive) monthly payments or would have to wait another month to have the money.
They do that because they want their kids to play ball and the kids enjoy playing ball.
And then to think that some of that registration fee was being siphoned off by the parasite(s) at the top.

A lot of FAI staff had their salary cut back to 26 grand a year.

FAI couldn't afford to pay them according to Delaney as he took another five grand out from an ATM.

stockshares · 14-09-2020 08:14PM

Mark Tighe and Paul Rowan were on Matt Cooper at 5.30pm this evening. Interview below.

https://www.todayfm.com/podcasts/the-last-word-with-matt-cooper/lifting-lid-john-delaneys-excessive-spending-fai-boss

The very start of this interview is shocking enough on its own.

Delaney sued many people throughout his time in order to suppress stories. The FAI covered his expenses and when Delaney won he would pocket the award and not pay back the FAI.
He made €264,000+ this way from the RIO debacle alone.

irishgeo · 14-09-2020 09:34PM

stockshares wrote: »

Mark Tighe and Paul Rowan were on Matt Cooper at 5.30pm this evening. Interview below.

https://www.todayfm.com/podcasts/the-last-word-with-matt-cooper/lifting-lid-john-delaneys-excessive-spending-fai-boss

The very start of this interview is shocking enough on its own.

Delaney sued many people throughout his time in order to suppress stories. The FAI covered his expenses and when Delaney won he would pocket the award and not pay back the FAI.
He made €264,000+ this way from the RIO debacle alone.

How the hell did he get away with it?

Richard Hillman · 14-09-2020 09:40PM

First time I have ever pre-ordered something. (the aul wan may have preordered Smackdown 2 20 odd years ago :pac: ).

I look forward to the book. Even if it doesn't reveal much new, Mark Tighe and Co deserve however much they are getting from the book for ridding us of that Virus. And hopefully leading to a prosecution.

NIMAN · 14-09-2020 09:44PM

There's folk out there with criminal records for less.

14-09-2020 09:49PM

NIMAN wrote: »

There's folk out there with criminal records for less.

Interestingly, under the law of champerty and maintenance, third party funding of litigation may be a crime too.

The arrangement referred to a few posts back, funding his litigation on the basis that he kept any award, is just staggering. They should all be hauled into the spotlight and asked how they acquiesced to that.

irishgeo · 14-09-2020 09:49PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

First time I have ever pre-ordered something. (the aul wan may have preordered Smackdown 2 20 odd years ago :pac: ).

I look forward to the book. Even if it doesn't reveal much new, Mark Tighe and Co deserve however much they are getting from the book for ridding us of that Virus. And hopefully leading to a prosecution.

hopefully it arrives on thursday from Eason's.

I have decided to revert back to normal books from ebooks as i spend enough time reading screens.

pm1977x · 14-09-2020 09:59PM

To the person suggesting Tighe shouldn’t bring out a book - Tighe and co brought the whole house of cards down, there was a culture around the FAI that asking questions got you frozen out and blacklisted (see Paul Cooke) and trying to expose anything brought expensive litigation, some journos were too scared, some couldn’t take the risk and some were just too bloody lazy to bother, happy to go along with the charade, save your opprobrium for them, moreover save it for Delaney and his cronies.

Tighe and the Sunday Times put a lot on the line to bring this stuff to light defending it in the High Court up against a print deadline, and they deserve everyone’s thanks for doing so, where were the multiple Ministers for Sport, The Sports Council, or the board of the FAI or the bloomin auditors, all of whom were supposed to provide oversight? Instead it was left to the press to blow it open and I doubt Tighe will be retiring off the profits (if any) from releasing this book. I’ll certainly be buying it though.

kippy · 14-09-2020 10:04PM

pm1977x wrote: »

To the person suggesting Tighe shouldn’t bring out a book - Tighe and co brought the whole house of cards down, there was a culture around the FAI that asking questions got you frozen out and blacklisted (see Paul Cooke) and trying to expose anything brought expensive litigation, some journos were too scared, some couldn’t take the risk and some were just too bloody lazy to bother, happy to go along with the charade, save your opprobrium for them, moreover save it for Delaney and his cronies.

Tighe and the Sunday Times put a lot on the line to bring this stuff to light defending it in the High Court up against a print deadline, and they deserve everyone’s thanks for doing so, where were the multiple Ministers for Sport, The Sports Council, or the board of the FAI or the bloomin auditors, all of whom were supposed to provide oversight? Instead it was left to the press to blow it open and I doubt Tighe will be retiring off the profits (if any) from releasing this book. I’ll certainly be buying it though.

It's the kind of journalism and relatively brave reporting that should be applauded.
Pre-ordered the book also!

chopperbyrne · 14-09-2020 10:09PM

Pre-ordered from Easons just now too.

Though I genuinely don't look forward to reading all of the ****e he got away with while in the FAI.

BonnieSituation · 14-09-2020 10:39PM

It's 14.20 over on Kennys FYI

https://www.kennys.ie/shop/champagne-football-john-delaney-and-the-betrayal-of-irish-football-the-inside-story.htm

stockshares · 14-09-2020 10:58PM

pm1977x wrote: »

To the person suggesting Tighe shouldn’t bring out a book - Tighe and co brought the whole house of cards down, there was a culture around the FAI that asking questions got you frozen out and blacklisted (see Paul Cooke) and trying to expose anything brought expensive litigation, some journos were too scared, some couldn’t take the risk and some were just too bloody lazy to bother, happy to go along with the charade, save your opprobrium for them, moreover save it for Delaney and his cronies.

Tighe and the Sunday Times put a lot on the line to bring this stuff to light defending it in the High Court up against a print deadline, and they deserve everyone’s thanks for doing so, where were the multiple Ministers for Sport, The Sports Council, or the board of the FAI or the bloomin auditors, all of whom were supposed to provide oversight? Instead it was left to the press to blow it open and I doubt Tighe will be retiring off the profits (if any) from releasing this book. I’ll certainly be buying it though.

I didn't say he shouldn't , I said I thought he might have been opportunistic in bringing it out this way Instead of waiting till the story reached its conclusion. After listening to the interview on Matt Cooper I realise I was wrong in saying so because Delaney would have sued him and probably won.

From my post #4869
Also I think Mark Tighe might be profiting from this story too in the same way that Paul Williams profits off crime by writing his books.

I could be wrong though. Maybe the profits are going to some cause or other. He has done a great job in exposing the FAI though but the book is a bit opportunistic.

From my post #4874
I'm not sure what the procedure is with investigative journalism but I imagine the story should have been run through the paper to its conclusion. After that a book could be written on it. I think this has happened with other scandals

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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