Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 14-09-2020 01:44PM

fits wrote: »

I really hope so. Its a phenomenal human effort.

Yup really is unbelievable. I didn’t know much about vaccine development and processes until I started reading up a few months ago and it really is intersting stuff when you see the processes being even more streamlined now for hopefully fast production

What Username Guidelines · 14-09-2020 01:44PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1305487240697704449?s=20

14-09-2020 01:44PM

JRant wrote: »

Add in the fact that the vast majority of people who die from flu wouldn't even make it to hospital for a test.

What percentage of those who died from Covid made it to ICU? Just over 5%. So, again only comparing positive Covid cases in ICU with positive Flu cases in ICU which is a comparison of like with like

stephenjmcd · 14-09-2020 01:45PM

Seamai wrote: »

The pubs in Bray will be chockers.

Already have been, bit of sun and the seafront is busy.

Pubs open though have their capacity and seem to be doing well with it.

Gadgetman496 · 14-09-2020 01:45PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So anyone that wants to go to a pub will get a bunch of mates into a car and just drive to the next county.

Another fine example of why Dublin is where it is today. I suppose at least they're not greedy, they're willing to share it with the rest of the country too!

SPDUB · 14-09-2020 01:46PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

So anyone that wants to go to a pub will get a bunch of mates into a car and just drive to the next county.

And then the Gardai can do them for Drunk Driving

Neamhshuntasach · 14-09-2020 01:47PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

There was a post earlier that made reference to this.

I think it was an interview saying hosptial labs had started to see more routine tests for admissions coming back postive.

Post in question might have been early this morning or late last night.

Wife can confirm that is the case in her hospital lately having previously thought otherwise. People already in hospital for other reasons are testing positive without Covid symptoms. And are now counted as covid patients in the hospital. So every time the count goes up, it doesn't necessarily mean it's an additional bed occupied to the non covid ones. It's reallocation an already occupied bed.

One case for example is a burn victim who tested positive with non covid symptoms.

Her input has eased my mind on the increasing hospital numbers. I don't care about case numbers increasing. But at least I know the hospital numbers increasing don't always correspond to an admittance solely due to covid symptoms.

14-09-2020 01:48PM

Agent Smith wrote: »

Todays figures Gonna begin with a 3?

Only 30-something, brilliant

Martina1991 · 14-09-2020 01:52PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Don't know if anyone posted this today. Worth a listen 24 mins about testing in hospitals.
https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1305222456504979457?s=20

It was great to see some representation in the media for a change.
Unfortunately issues with laboratory capacity go far beyond Covid testing.

blowitupref · 14-09-2020 01:54PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Only 30-something, brilliant

Those where the days my friend..

wellwhynot · 14-09-2020 02:03PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Wife can confirm that is the case in her hospital lately having previously thought otherwise. People already in hospital for other reasons are testing positive without Covid symptoms. And are now counted as covid patients in the hospital. So every time the count goes up, it doesn't necessarily mean it's an additional bed occupied to the non covid ones. It's reallocation an already occupied bed.

One case for example is a burn victim who tested positive with non covid symptoms.

Her input has eased my mind on the increasing hospital numbers. I don't care about case numbers increasing. But at least I know the hospital numbers increasing don't always correspond to an admittance solely due to covid symptoms.

If this is the case and I believe you why is it not mentioned by NPHET or the government. Why are we not given the age of the people who died? Why no mention of how many cases are asymptomatic? Are the deaths current and if not, why not mention it? Did the deaths occur because of Covid or something else?

I have lost all respect for all journalists. No one seems to be asking these questions. It should be splashed over every front page. We are not being told anything and you have to question why.

Regardless of whether travel and pubs open we still have 50% of the population living in abject fear of this virus who will curtail their life and spending until this magic vaccine is found. Most European countries are not acting like us.

stephenjmcd · 14-09-2020 02:04PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Wife can confirm that is the case in her hospital lately having previously thought otherwise. People already in hospital for other reasons are testing positive without Covid symptoms. And are now counted as covid patients in the hospital. So every time the count goes up, it doesn't necessarily mean it's an additional bed occupied to the non covid ones. It's reallocation an already occupied bed.

One case for example is a burn victim who tested positive with non covid symptoms.

Her input has eased my mind on the increasing hospital numbers. I don't care about case numbers increasing. But at least I know the hospital numbers increasing don't always correspond to an admittance solely due to covid symptoms.

Have heard that from a family member working in a Dublin hosptial that while there are paitents in with covid who require hosptial care, there are others who if you didn't know they had a postive test are completely asymptomatic and look perfectly fine, they also feel perfectly fine.

Its quite strange that there does seem to be more reports of asymptomatic cases. Perhaps its because we're testing more

ACitizenErased · 14-09-2020 02:06PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Wife can confirm that is the case in her hospital lately having previously thought otherwise. People already in hospital for other reasons are testing positive without Covid symptoms. And are now counted as covid patients in the hospital. So every time the count goes up, it doesn't necessarily mean it's an additional bed occupied to the non covid ones. It's reallocation an already occupied bed.

One case for example is a burn victim who tested positive with non covid symptoms.

Her input has eased my mind on the increasing hospital numbers. I don't care about case numbers increasing. But at least I know the hospital numbers increasing don't always correspond to an admittance solely due to covid symptoms.

Thanks for confirming

Neamhshuntasach · 14-09-2020 02:19PM

wellwhynot wrote: »

If this is the case and I believe you why is it not mentioned by NPHET or the government. Why are we not given the age of the people who died? Why no mention of how many cases are asymptomatic? Are the deaths current and if not, why not mention it? Did the deaths occur because of Covid or something else?

I have lost all respect for all journalists. No one seems to be asking these questions. It should be splashed over every front page. We are not being told anything and you have to question why.

Regardless of whether travel and pubs open we still have 50% of the population living in abject fear of this virus who will curtail their life and spending until this magic vaccine is found. Most European countries are not acting like us.

I've no idea about answers to any of those questions other than personal opinion perhaps. And I doubt my wife would know anything about decisions outside of her work either.

Regardless of covid, the media always love to go with the doom and gloom angle. A bit of a storm approaching and it's run for the hills as the country will be swept away. Sensationalist headlines always sell papers or entice readers in online.

As for NPHET, I suppose there's an element of not wanting to paint too positive a picture in case it increases complacency. But I've honestly no idea why there isn't more detailed info released.

funnydoggy · 14-09-2020 02:20PM

wellwhynot wrote: »

If this is the case and I believe you why is it not mentioned by NPHET or the government. Why are we not given the age of the people who died? Why no mention of how many cases are asymptomatic? Are the deaths current and if not, why not mention it? Did the deaths occur because of Covid or something else?

I have lost all respect for all journalists. No one seems to be asking these questions. It should be splashed over every front page. We are not being told anything and you have to question why.

Regardless of whether travel and pubs open we still have 50% of the population living in abject fear of this virus who will curtail their life and spending until this magic vaccine is found. Most European countries are not acting like us.

Our government and media have done a f*cking horrible job communicating everything since day one.

Tenzor07 · 14-09-2020 02:22PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Have heard that from a family member working in a Dublin hosptial that while there are paitents in with covid who require hosptial care, there are others who if you didn't know they had a postive test are completely asymptomatic and look perfectly fine, they also feel perfectly fine.
Its quite strange that there does seem to be more reports of asymptomatic cases. Perhaps its because we're testing more

With the low numbers of people in Hospital with Covid, and the low numbers of deaths also, it seems like we have not a Pandemic but a "Casedemic"

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 02:23PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Have heard that from a family member working in a Dublin hosptial that while there are paitents in with covid who require hosptial care, there are others who if you didn't know they had a postive test are completely asymptomatic and look perfectly fine, they also feel perfectly fine.

Its quite strange that there does seem to be more reports of asymptomatic cases. Perhaps its because we're testing more

We've known this from the start. I don't think so because the positivity rate has increased. There is evidence that social distancing and masks reduce exposure and could lead to a symptomatic cases rather than symptomatic.

On day 9, it became clear that the disease was widely spreading within companies 2 and 3;
both units were put under quarantine, and hygiene measures were rigidly enforced across all three companies:
Soldiers had to keep a distance of at least 2 m from each other at all times, and in situations
where this could not be avoided (e.g., military training), they had to wear a surgical face mask..

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1285759728820408320?s=20

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Thanks for confirming

That's not confirmed. It's called anecdotal evidence. There is a difference.

stephenjmcd · 14-09-2020 02:31PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

We've known this from the start. I don't think so because the positivity rate has increased. There is evidence that social distancing and masks reduce exposure and could lead to a symptomatic cases rather than symptomatic.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1285759728820408320?s=20

That's not confirmed. It's called anecdotal evidence. There is a difference.

Yes potentially but we really don't know at the start how many were asymptomatic. Alot is probably down to viral load, I'm wondering are the case numbers now picking up more due to the testing of people that just don't have symptoms, when they get reported then as a case most people assume someone is quite sick which isn't always accurate.

Either way we'll never know what the actual infection rate was months ago.

Funsterdelux · 14-09-2020 02:31PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

With the low numbers of people in Hospital with Covid, and the low numbers of deaths also, it seems like we have not a Pandemic but a "Casedemic"

Dont be so silly

Its not a casedemic its a plandemic.

Pufft

normanoffside · 14-09-2020 02:32PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

We've known this from the start. I don't think so because the positivity rate has increased. There is evidence that social distancing and masks reduce exposure and could lead to a symptomatic cases rather than symptomatic.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1285759728820408320?s=20

I've been thinking for a long time that surely Asymptomatic carriers must be less risk of being spreaders, or at least of spreading severe infections...
That probably explains why there is a low rate of transmission from kids to other kids and Kids to Adults.

I know there is always a small risk that Asymptomatic carriers might be just pre-symptomatic 'super spreaders' (in all the super spreader events I have read about the spreader developed symptoms the next day or later the same day).

But ultimately surely no symptoms =less of a risk to others.

Neamhshuntasach · 14-09-2020 02:46PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

That's not confirmed. It's called anecdotal evidence. There is a difference.

Well to me it's confirmed in one hospital at least based on the scientific opinion of my wife who works in said hospital in covid wards. It's not like she's coming home spoofing to me. I seen how up the walls with worry she was up until around May. Night and day how she is now. Maybe it's unique to her hospital. But i wouldn't imagine so.

I could give more details of other examples with non covid specific admittance and name the hospital she works in. But then someone could be reading here about their family member that i'm referring to. And that's not a road i'm going down.

stockshares · 14-09-2020 02:47PM

HPSC 14 day incidence rate for each county up to 12th Sep.

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1305480288458465281?s=19

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1305481156062834689?s=19

Northern Ireland stats
https://twitter.com/DarranMarshall/status/1305497037966839812?s=19

ACitizenErased · 14-09-2020 02:47PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

We've known this from the start. I don't think so because the positivity rate has increased. There is evidence that social distancing and masks reduce exposure and could lead to a symptomatic cases rather than symptomatic.

https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1285759728820408320?s=20

That's not confirmed. It's called anecdotal evidence. There is a difference.

Wait until I tell ya that you can’t believe everything you read on Twitter. And yet you preach it like Baby Jesus in the Bible.

GooglePlus · 14-09-2020 02:49PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Wait until I tell ya that you can’t believe everything you read on Twitter. And yet you preach it like Baby Jesus in the Bible.

Baby Jesus didn't do much preaching.

growleaves · 14-09-2020 02:50PM

More suicides than Covid deaths in Australia:

Gus Worland talks mental health during COVID and the alarming rate of suicide in Australia

GooglePlus · 14-09-2020 02:51PM

growleaves wrote: »

More suicides than Covid deaths in Australia:

Gus Worland talks mental health during COVID and the alarming rate of suicide in Australia

The same case for us in younger groups. This pandemic has killed many young people and suicide reporting has taken a hit so we don't even know the full picture.

caveat emptor · 14-09-2020 02:52PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Wait until I tell ya that you can’t believe everything you read on Twitter. And yet you preach it like Baby Jesus in the Bible.

It's a link (twitter link) to an account of an acclaimed scientist who posted a link to a peer reviewed scientific paper which is actual evidence.

Not all tweets are equal. The discerning among us know the difference but carry on telling me how the numbers will go then ask how it's gone so wrong.

14-09-2020 02:55PM

growleaves wrote: »

More suicides than Covid deaths in Australia:

Gus Worland talks mental health during COVID and the alarming rate of suicide in Australia

The despair that leaves young men in a situation that results in them taking thier own lives needs to be addressed as a society, however the rate has not increased in Australia during covid. Its not a zero sum game, you can work on both

fred funk }{ · 14-09-2020 02:55PM

Any word on beers for today?

Boggles · 14-09-2020 02:56PM

growleaves wrote: »

More suicides than Covid deaths in Australia:

Gus Worland talks mental health during COVID and the alarming rate of suicide in Australia

There’s been over 1,200 suicides since March compared to just over 200 deaths with the virus

There is roughly 3000 deaths attribute to suicide there annually.

250 a month.

So 1200 in 6 months would be 200.

Suicide rate is down.

Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

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