Covid 19 Part XXIII-33,444 in ROI(1,792 deaths) 9,541 in NI(577 deaths)(22/09)Read OP

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 07:38PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Changes with the living with covid plan to come Monday / Tuesday.

Where possible going into the office will be encouraged

Thanks for that. That seems a bit daft. Seems economic concerns at play rather than public health. More people using public transport, sharing offices with flu season on top of it and rising cases in Dublin. Not a great combination. Not sure how public transport is meant to cope either with current restricted capacity.

stephenjmcd · 13-09-2020 07:39PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

The capacity is not there in Dublin to transport people ever been on a dart or a bus at 5 in the evening

I know I do it daily.

People will be encouraged to return to the office where appropriate

inthenip · 13-09-2020 07:40PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

All depends on how crap a company/organisation is. Plenty of friends working in mn have been told it's going to be February 2021 at the earliest, one even June 2021 at the earliest worldwide, even then if they want the staff can continue to work from home.

Same with us, we were told March 2021 at the earliest and probably be just two days a week and might not bring that in either.

Some companies are just arse holes who think your life revolves around work.

stephenjmcd · 13-09-2020 07:40PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Thanks for that. That seems a bit daft. Seems economic concerns at play rather than public health. More people using public transport, sharing offices with flu season on top of it and rising cases in Dublin. Not a great combination. Not sure how public transport is meant to cope either with current restricted capacity.

yeah you've got it spot on with it being an economic concern.

In the Independent,

"encouraging parents and employees to gradually return to their workplaces provided it is safe to do so in a bid to regenerate towns and cities that have been economically devastated in recent months"

13-09-2020 07:41PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

What’s mn

Multinational

13-09-2020 07:42PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

What’s mn

Multinational I presume

Littleredcar · 13-09-2020 07:42PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yeah you've got it spot on with it being an economic concern.

In the Independent,

"encouraging parents and employees to gradually return to their workplaces provided it is safe to do so in a bid to regenerate towns and cities that have been economically devastated in recent months"

Dublin isn’t safe to do so at the moment ,does it say 2 meter rule in workplaces . Mine wouldn’t cope with that it would have to be 50/50 in

stephenjmcd · 13-09-2020 07:44PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

Dublin isn’t safe to do so at the moment ,does it say 2 meter rule in workplaces . Mine wouldn’t cope with that it would have to be 50/50 in

Whatever is in the return to work protocol that was issued months ago.

My own office is operating with 50% available capacity at the moment. So about 300 are allowed in if they want to come in

Arghus · 13-09-2020 07:45PM

Blondini wrote: »

Deaths being reported every day now and hospital numbers increasing.

Not a good time to be a covid-denier...

Ah, but you see - the facts make no difference to them.

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 07:45PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

yeah you've got it spot on with it being an economic concern.

In the Independent,

"encouraging parents and employees to gradually return to their workplaces provided it is safe to do so in a bid to regenerate towns and cities that have been economically devastated in recent months"

I think that ignores people are spending money locally instead. Might not be in same volume but cost to health system of rising cases could outweigh benefit of a few more sandwiches being bought. I wonder is economic fall out of no deal Brexit at play too with Budget next month too.

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 07:47PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

Dublin isn’t safe to do so at the moment ,does it say 2 meter rule in workplaces . Mine wouldn’t cope with that it would have to be 50/50 in

You'd hope plan can be flexible so that Dublin be on level 3 for a few weeks until cases level off. Well hopefully

stephenjmcd · 13-09-2020 07:49PM

Eod100 wrote: »

I think that ignores people are spending money locally instead. Might not be in same volume but cost to health system of rising cases could outweigh benefit of a few more sandwiches being bought. I wonder is economic fall out of no deal Brexit at play too with Budget next month too.

Quite possibly. Any more further restrictions that limit business in terms of their operations coupled with a potential no deal could destroy them which is why I don't see gov putting any restrictions in that could ultimately send alot of businesses to the wall.

The budget is looking bleak

13-09-2020 07:56PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

Dublin isn’t safe to do so at the moment ,does it say 2 meter rule in workplaces . Mine wouldn’t cope with that it would have to be 50/50 in

Think it’s up to the company, but would assume the guidance is 2m where possible, in my workplace approx 50% of desks have been red tagged as do not use to ensure 2m. Workers have then been divided in to 3 groups, group 1 require access to a desk when they need it and have been given an assigned desk. group 2 have been identified as having potential requirement to be on site 2 to 3 days a week and have been buddied up with a colleague, and Group 3 have no onsite requirement and can reserve an agile desk if needed. Cleaning materials have also been provided in all office areas to clean desks after use. Masks available at entry points for anyone who forgets their own, automated temperature checks at all entry points, hand sanitizers everywhere, canteen delivery service to designated pick up points, plus multiple other measures. I have often thought of moving to a smaller company, however at times like this the resources that a large organisation have a something to be thankful for. Must be very difficult for sme’s to provide appropriate measures in workplaces

OscarMIlde · 13-09-2020 07:56PM

random_banter wrote: »

I also just got a text essentially saying the same thing - likely some whatsapp rumour going around?

Can find zero evidence of it anywhere, so if anyone has seen anything would appreciate a link.

There I was hoping the whatsapp rumour mills were a thing of the past. Wishful thinking.

It may be people confusing the advice of the British government with our own.

RGARDINR · 13-09-2020 08:00PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Are offices opening now? Friend was saying he heard government were going to encourage people back to offices but hadn't seen or heard anything myself. Would you have link to article by any chance on it?

Hopefull shows there was on breaking news.

RGARDINR · 13-09-2020 08:01PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

And are they going to supply a fleet of additional buses to transport these people at reduced capacity . Pre lockdown I used public transport and rarely got a seat, standing room only during rush hour so can’t see how they can ferry people at reduced capacity

Yup same here i got the 140 and was like a sardine on it. If I could get on that is.

Del Griffith · 13-09-2020 08:02PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

It was 70%, the tweet contains a link to the paper in nature. I've copied the section below. It's a big unknown and a serious gamble to go for given the evidence of corona viruses.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00451-5.epdf

Are these for real? We have 29 MILLION documented cases of covid19, and about 4 (totally unreliable) claims of re-infection (most likely false positives) And they are suggesting that reinfection could be a common occurrence? Seriously?

Littleredcar · 13-09-2020 08:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Think it’s up to the company, but would assume the guidance is 2m where possible, in my workplace approx 50% of desks have been red tagged as do not use to ensure 2m. Workers have then been divided in to 3 groups, group 1 require access to a desk when they need it and have been given an assigned desk. group 2 have been identified as having potential requirement to be on site 2 to 3 days a week and have been buddied up with a colleague, and Group 3 have no onsite requirement and can reserve an agile desk if needed. Cleaning materials have also been provided in all office areas to clean desks after use. Masks available at entry points for anyone who forgets their own, automated temperature checks at all entry points, hand sanitizers everywhere, canteen delivery service to designated pick up points, plus multiple other measures. I have often thought of moving to a smaller company, however at times like this the resources that a large organisation have a something to be thankful for. Must be very difficult for sme’s to provide appropriate measures in workplaces

Very well organised. I’m employed by gov and desks will be to close so on 6 bay of desks only 3 will be usable

Micky 32 · 13-09-2020 08:03PM

Arghus wrote: »

Ah, but you see - the facts make no difference to them.

Pointless post. I have seen that work both ways on here.

Del Griffith · 13-09-2020 08:05PM

Eod100 wrote: »

Thanks for that. That seems a bit daft. Seems economic concerns at play rather than public health. More people using public transport, sharing offices with flu season on top of it and rising cases in Dublin. Not a great combination. Not sure how public transport is meant to cope either with current restricted capacity.

Economic concerns are not irrelevant, it's anything but daft it might even be sensible

hmmm · 13-09-2020 08:09PM

I don't like the hospitalisations & ICU numbers creeping up. We do not have unlimited beds. We can't be putting our ICU staff at risk.

We're so very close to controlling this. Our 'R' number has to be very close to 1. Most people are doing their bit and it's unfair to ask them to do more, if only we could do something about what seems like a small number of gob****es.

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 08:10PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Quite possibly. Any more further restrictions that limit business in terms of their operations coupled with a potential no deal could destroy them which is why I don't see gov putting any restrictions in that could ultimately send alot of businesses to the wall.

The budget is looking bleak

It's not looking great that's for sure unfortunately

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 08:11PM

RGARDINR wrote: »

Hopefull shows there was on breaking news.

Thanks for that

drunkmonkey · 13-09-2020 08:13PM

RGARDINR wrote: »

Hopefull shows there was on breaking news.

Why the rules on how we manage our own homes then, I don't get it, 6 at home not ok, 200 in the office not a problem. It's another mixed message people just won't understand.

worlds goodest teecher · 13-09-2020 08:14PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Theyre moving Xmas to Easter and moving Easter to June/July.

So you never know

But surely this year's paddy's day has to happen first?

Eod100 · 13-09-2020 08:16PM

Del Griffith wrote: »

Economic concerns are not irrelevant, it's anything but daft it might even be sensible

I didn't say they were irrelevant tbf but when people can work from home it seems odd decision. And in later posts said rising costs could impact on economy more than any potential gains.

JP Liz V1 · 13-09-2020 08:23PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

RTE reporting that Dublin is likely to be on a higher “level” in the new plan with restrictions also likely

It should have restrictions asap why the wait

hmmm · 13-09-2020 08:23PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Why the rules on how we manage our own homes then, I don't get it, 6 at home not ok, 200 in the office not a problem. It's another mixed message people just won't understand.

They're prioritising schools & work, and it means we have to do less elsewhere. Kids need to go to school. People need to work. We don't need to have parties in our houses.

It's a risk/balancing act, and not about one being safe and the other not safe.

13-09-2020 08:23PM

Littleredcar wrote: »

Very well organised. I’m employed by gov and desks will be to close so on 6 bay of desks only 3 will be usable

Going by that most/half will still be working from home?

lukas8888 · 13-09-2020 08:23PM

spookwoman wrote: »

No one is looking for a lock down, only people who keep saying that are the likes of you.

I must be suffering from a reading disorder if that's the case,many posters are predicting huge positive numbers over the next days with such a sense of excitement they can barely contain themselves.

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