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How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    In the absence of any statistics, why don't we go with the anecdotal evidence from this thread - all the other teachers did their best and you didn't bother.

    If we’re going with anecdotal evidence from this thread (assuming we exclude all the teachers because of potential data bias) it looks like about 50% of parents were happy with another 50% saying teachers did very little.

    I’d be happy enough to go with that as you suggest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    If we’re going with anecdotal evidence from this thread (assuming we exclude all the teachers because of potential data bias) it looks like about 50% of parents were happy with another 50% saying teachers did very little.

    I’d be happy enough to go with that as you suggest.

    Do you really think 50% of your colleagues didn't bother helping their children?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    Do you really think 50% of your colleagues didn't bother helping their children?

    To be fair, it is other teachers making the claim that “most teachers” worked.

    What are they basing that on? Seems very, very difficult to get an answer to that simple question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    To be fair, it is other teachers making the claim that “most teachers” worked.

    What are they basing that on? Seems very, very difficult to get an answer to that simple question.

    I guess their own lived experience of working with their colleagues.

    Why do you have such a low opinion of your colleagues?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    To be fair, it is other teachers making the claim that “most teachers” worked.

    What are they basing that on? Seems very, very difficult to get an answer to that simple question.

    Basing that on the fact that of all teachers I know, you're the only supposed teacher who openly states they did nothing. The fact that no poster who has claimed to be a teacher has liked or agreed with any of your posts is also a good gauge.

    Now back on track to the thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Why do you have such a low opinion of your colleagues?

    I've often wondered that. No job is worth being miserable. I couldn't stay in a school where such misery seems to exist. We all have things we dislike about our schools but the poster in question seems to have a miserable existence in their school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    I guess their own lived experience of working with their colleagues.

    Why do you have such a low opinion of your colleagues?

    Then it’s an opinion and not a fact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    I've often wondered that. No job is worth being miserable. I couldn't stay in a school where such misery seems to exist. We all have things we dislike about our schools but the poster in question seems to have a miserable existence in their school.

    I would urge non-teachers reading this thread to look at this for some context on the above post https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058086571/3/#post114413115. Read the entire thread and then ask why teachers are reluctant to speak out.

    The teaching and lecturing forum can be very enlightening at times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 840 ✭✭✭teachinggal123


    I've often wondered that. No job is worth being miserable. I couldn't stay in a school where such misery seems to exist. We all have things we dislike about our schools but the poster in question seems to have a miserable existence in their school.

    It’s gas!!!

    All this because I’m asking a simple question and being honest. Teachers really don’t like being questioned and challenged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    42. The answer is 42.

    Can we move on now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    I would urge non-teachers reading this thread to look at this for some context on the above post https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058086571/3/#post114413115. Read the entire thread and then ask why teachers are reluctant to speak out.

    The teaching and lecturing forum can be very enlightening at times.

    I would have thought any teacher who didn't bother helping their kids through an incredibly difficult time would've been reluctant to speak out by default.

    Like, what are you going to "speak out" about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    Blondini wrote: »
    Oh great, you've a new friend here...

    Fcucking dream team.

    Jesus wept.

    With the greatest of respect, instead of abusing people, why is it so difficult to get a simple answer to a simple question?

    Q. A claim has been made that most teachers were working. How does the claimant know that?

    It may well be that it is the posters opinion that most teachers were working, and that’s fair enough.

    But if it’s an opinion it should be stated as such, and not as a fact.

    So, I’ll ask the question again (it’s not that difficult) - how does the poster know most teachers worked?

    A


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭Blondini


    Will Yam wrote: »
    With the greatest of respect, instead of abusing people, why is it so difficult to get a simple answer to a simple question?

    Q. A claim has been made that most teachers were working. How does the claimant know that?

    It may well be that it is the posters opinion that most teachers were working, and that’s fair enough.

    But if it’s an opinion it should be stated as such, and not as a fact.

    So, I’ll ask the question again (it’s not that difficult) - how does the poster know most teachers worked?

    A

    Can we ever truly "know" anything Willy.

    Even epistemologists differ in opinions in this regard, stemming from the musings of Plato and that little scamp Aristotle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    Blondini wrote: »
    Can we ever truly "know" anything Willy.

    Even epistemologists differ in opinions in this regard, stemming from the musings of Plato and that little scamp Aristotle.

    Of course we can’t. That’s why the poster was challenged on his assertion that most teachers worked. And it would appear that some on here, including your good self, wouldn’t accept that challenge - preferring instead to be abusive etc.

    The poster is as entitled as anyone else to his/her opinion, and to have it respected, even by those who disagree.

    But he is not entitled to present his opinion as a fact and then accuse those who challenge the fact of all sorts.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,440 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    khalessi and teachinggal123 give it a rest both of you.

    Stop bickering or you'll both be banned from the thread, there's pages of back and forth between the two of you at this stage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭Elliejo


    Having relatively strong connections with three local primary schools, with a combined total of about 75 teachers, the feedback from staff and parents was that 90%+ feel that teachers worked well during lock-down. Both parents and teachers agree that it became more difficult when it got into early to mid-June as engagement from children dropped off. A very small minority of parents felt that their particular class group didn't get enough engagement. By that algorithm it could be alleged that overall, most teachers worked during lock-down. Now, I am obviously going by my personal knowledge but I doubt our area was any different to other locations.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 962 ✭✭✭irishblessing


    It feels like things are sliding already since school has been open. I've seen more and more parents chatting in small groups at the school mostly with no masks, which we were directly told not to do. No one is moving them on though. The one way system worked for about 2 days. Also the hand washing in the mornings seems to have gone away and the handful of kids wearing masks (primary) are now down to 2-3. I think people are only going to get more and more complacent which is worrying...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    It feels like things are sliding already since school has been open. I've seen more and more parents chatting in small groups at the school mostly with no masks, which we were directly told not to do. No one is moving them on though. The one way system worked for about 2 days. Also the hand washing in the mornings seems to have gone away and the handful of kids wearing masks (primary) are now down to 2-3. I think people are only going to get more and more complacent which is worrying...

    The return of schools was always going to be the signal to a lot of people that things were back to 'normal'. Bouncy castles up around our area for a delayed confirmation, assume lots of those houses will have had large amounts of people in them today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    The return of schools was always going to be the signal to a lot of people that things were back to 'normal'. Bouncy castles up around our area for a delayed confirmation, assume lots of those houses will have had large amounts of people in them today.

    To be fair, I can feel my own complacency kicking in. I'm around like 200 people day to day, so when I went to a restaurant, seated outside, and one of my friends felt that another table was a little close, I couldn't help but internally roll my eyes. Not the right thing to do obviously, but I can feel my standards are much lower.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,440 CMod ✭✭✭✭Ten of Swords


    Are you a mod?
    Are you a mod of this forum?
    Are you a mod of this thread?
    Are you a mod of this thread?


    If you feel a post is inappropriate or over the line report it. Posts like this do nothing but inflame, any more like these will receive escalating cards


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Jaded Walker


    How many schools have had cases at this stage?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,345 ✭✭✭limnam


    Elliejo wrote: »
    Having relatively strong connections with three local primary schools, with a combined total of about 75 teachers, the feedback from staff and parents was that 90%+ feel that teachers worked well during lock-down. Both parents and teachers agree that it became more difficult when it got into early to mid-June as engagement from children dropped off. A very small minority of parents felt that their particular class group didn't get enough engagement. By that algorithm it could be alleged that overall, most teachers worked during lock-down. Now, I am obviously going by my personal knowledge but I doubt our area was any different to other locations.

    Didn't see nor hear from a teacher from March - September


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Asthma flare up here. To be honest Friday was one of my most stressful days teaching ever so I’m would be very surprised if it was covid and not asthma. Referred for a test by the doc although reckons it will be negative. Took 15 minutes for the text to arrive and test this morning. Doc didn’t tell me to isolate bar not going to school or my household to restrict movements so I’m pretty confused as to what happens tbh. I’ve ordered the shop for delivery and I’ll keep my oldest home tomorrow if I’ve no result. Can I go back teaching once I’m negative? I guess I can ask at the test centre?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,445 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    limnam wrote: »
    Didn't see nor hear from a teacher from March - September

    What class(es) is/are your child(ren) in?

    My dear god, you didn't even get the once a week email.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,651 ✭✭✭downthemiddle


    What class(es) is/are your child(ren) in?

    My dear god, you didn't even get the once a week email.

    Maybe the child is in Teachinggal’s class.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭alroley


    Asthma flare up here. To be honest Friday was one of my most stressful days teaching ever so I’m would be very surprised if it was covid and not asthma. Referred for a test by the doc although reckons it will be negative. Took 15 minutes for the text to arrive and test this morning. Doc didn’t tell me to isolate bar not going to school or my household to restrict movements so I’m pretty confused as to what happens tbh. I’ve ordered the shop for delivery and I’ll keep my oldest home tomorrow if I’ve no result. Can I go back teaching once I’m negative? I guess I can ask at the test centre?

    My housemate was referred for a test due to being a close contact, and I was told to go to school as normal. She got a negative result but stayed out until 14 days after she had met the contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,867 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    limnam wrote: »
    Didn't see nor hear from a teacher from March - September

    We got a generic email once a week that every child from 2nd to 6th class got.

    It’s a nonsense for teachers to claim they were doing 15 hours days during this time, maybe some did but I doubt it and even if they did they were in a tiny minority.

    Quite a lot of teachers did nothing or very little for months.

    Cue the back seat modding and shouting down from the thread usual suspects.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    alroley wrote: »
    My housemate was referred for a test due to being a close contact, and I was told to go to school as normal. She got a negative result but stayed out until 14 days after she had met the contact.

    God I hope it isn't 14 days even if negative??! :eek::eek: I have Leaving Certs :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭wily minx


    The weekly emails I received were very detailed hour-by-hour plans for the following week with all resources attached. And a supporting video lesson daily via Seesaw. I know the other 2 primary schools locally did the same. Obviously schools varied hugely but I do hope you have taken it up your complaint with the schools in question? It was a totally unprecedented situation for which schools were unprepared but it could happen again in the future and there will be no excuses next time. Posting anonymously online won't help.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭wily minx


    God I hope it isn't 14 days even if negative??! :eek::eek: I have Leaving Certs :(

    I think that's only if you were a close contact, in case you develop symptoms.


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