How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

Will Yam · 11-09-2020 02:28PM

Balagan1 wrote: »

blanch152 wrote: »

I think it was said yesterday by the experts that 54 schools have had cases - but that not a single one of them resulted in transmission in the school or orginated in the school.

In order to balance risk, if you as an adult have children in a school, you need to reduce your own social contacts. Too many parents refuse to do that, needlessly exposing their children to extra risk. The acceptable risk is children going to school for vital education, the unacceptable risk is their parents socialising.[/QUOTE

Which is exactly why the wet pubs should be holding off.

There have been virtually no (or very very few) in restaurants. So where ever the Covid is spreading it isn’t there

average_runner · 11-09-2020 03:15PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Good for you . My point was not everyone could . And actually during lockdown kids were not supposed to be playing with each other all through March and April and into May ? I was talking about deep lockdown when children were not outside playing or in gaa camps etc
Once lockdown lifted the kids were taken to parks , beaches and lakes and enjoyed a good time . But during lockdown many children suffered and many children faced abuse and neglect .

Well you did say summer in the original post. And in May they were allowed one contact each.

Many kids had a good time in lockdown also, they got to spend quality time with parents. There were positives not just negatives.

average_runner · 11-09-2020 03:19PM

JDD wrote: »

Did you have a stay at home mother by any chance?

My kids were too young to be out playing without adult supervision. The 8 year old is probably old enough, but isn't old enough to look after a 5 year old as well. Another couple of years and they probably would have had a better time.

At 5 you need to keep more of an eye on them, depending how busy it is also.
The range in our area is 7-12, 12 years are very good with the kids even

iamwhoiam · 11-09-2020 03:26PM

average_runner wrote: »

Well you did say summer in the original post. And in May they were allowed one contact each.

Many kids had a good time in lockdown also, they got to spend quality time with parents. There were positives not just negatives.

Yea many did . Delighted for them , but i also have empathy for those who didnt and was actually answering a poster who maintained that if kids didnt have a good time when schools were closed it was down to poor parenting . Schools closed in March
Below is the post I replied to

Jaded Walker wrote: »

All my great memories from my childhood years are from the summer holidays.

I hear parents going on about how down their kids were because of no school. I say you need to look at your parenting skills if that's the case. My kids are still not back at school and they are very happy.

average_runner · 11-09-2020 03:44PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yea many did . Delighted for them , but i also have empathy for those who didnt and was actually answering a poster who maintained that if kids didnt have a good time when schools were closed it was down to poor parenting . Schools closed in March
Below is the post I replied to

Understand and I agree with you.

Wouldn't say its down to poor parenting, there is many factors that we don't know about, so couldn't pass judgement on any one.

BonsaiKitten · 11-09-2020 03:49PM

PCros wrote: »

Question for teachers: How do you feel now that you are back two weeks compared to say a month ago? Better or worse or as expected?

I feel as I did back then. Happy to be back but frustrated that the government have put in no real supports for schools. Also very annoyed that vulnerable teachers, students and families have been ignored.

PCros · 11-09-2020 04:06PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

I feel as I did back then. Happy to be back but frustrated that the government have put in no real supports for schools. Also very annoyed that vulnerable teachers, students and families have been ignored.

I thought the Medmark issue was resolved now that the teacher's treating doctors have a say in the process?

Sorry I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere recently.

KerryConnor · 11-09-2020 04:13PM

I'm delighted to be back. Missed the routine and the chat. And i was very anxious before coming back.
Just hope we stay back now.
However i dont feel safe with these stories of classes contuing despite confirmed positive s. At very least full class needs to be tested and quarentined otherwise the virus will be everywhere.

PCros wrote: »

Question for teachers: How do you feel now that you are back two weeks compared to say a month ago? Better or worse or as expected?

BonsaiKitten · 11-09-2020 04:36PM

PCros wrote: »

I thought the Medmark issue was resolved now that the teacher's treating doctors have a say in the process?

Sorry I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere recently.

Not to my knowledge but you could be right! Afaik many teachers who would be very high risk were reclassified as high risk by MedMark, thus expected back to work.

Of course that doesn't touch on the issues of high risk teachers/children or anyone living with very high risk individuals. Never mind the Government possibly setting up online school which would have been a big help to many.

Hawthorn Tree · 11-09-2020 04:38PM

Jaded Walker wrote: »

All my great memories from my childhood years are from the summer holidays.

I hear parents going on about how down their kids were because of no school. I say you need to look at your parenting skills if that's the case. My kids are still not back at school and they are very happy.

My kids really enjoyed their 6 months off school. I think they will look back on it with fond memories. We live in the countryside so they really got to know the local area. During the strict lockdown the weather was dry and pleasant and they went on long cycles and treks together. Social restrictions were eased during the summer and the sports activities have been intensive during July and August. An epic summer holidays to be honest. They were so lucky with the dry bright weather from March to May.

catrat12 · 11-09-2020 04:40PM

Over 40 kids out today out of 430

Was in first class today covering
2 lads with a cough and about 5 sneezing

Vomiting bug going through 2 senior classes already

wirelessdude01 · 11-09-2020 05:01PM

catrat12 wrote: »

Over 40 kids out today out of 430

Was in first class today covering
2 lads with a cough and about 5 sneezing

Vomiting bug going through 2 senior classes already

And this with hand sanitiser pretty much flowing in their veins.

meeeeh · 11-09-2020 05:08PM

Jaded Walker wrote: »

All my great memories from my childhood years are from the summer holidays.

I hear parents going on about how down their kids were because of no school. I say you need to look at your parenting skills if that's the case. My kids are still not back at school and they are very happy.

I loved holidays when I was child and I also loved being back after holidays. So do my kids. I'm not saying that I'm great parent but I think it's a good thing my kids like school and thrive in school.

If my kids were happy to be out of school after that long and after all their friends went back I'd be wondering what is wrong and do they have hard time in school.

utmbuilder · 11-09-2020 05:37PM

Firstly let me say I've been concerned about Covid since the very start and really kept my distance and handgel, masks obsessively.

However with the kids in school it's now impossible. I kept them off with the Goal of waiting this Monday to send them back as I wanted to see how things where going and if the schools would remain open.

2 Days back in school one of my daughters 6 came down with a terrible hacky cough, was'nt well the first night , no temperature cold like symptoms but loads of energy coughing and sneezing all over the house.

It's impossible to hide or isolate when your caring for your young child. We have not gotten her tested 2 days in but i want to so winning that argument at the moment with my wife. 5 kids out of a class of 20 to 25 have been sick with colds 2 of them got tested and noting came back positive.

My nerves are shattered, its extremely hard to cope with this disease when you live long side it.

But most of all i don't think 50% of the mothers who have kids showing symptoms play by the rules and they will go into school anyway.

Leaving the kids off school is not an option for anybody, the kids simply are not able for being at home any longer.

Man it hard its so ****en hard.

JasonStatham · 11-09-2020 05:51PM

Can you get the child tested? Surely it would be wise.

vid36 · 11-09-2020 06:01PM

What is the latest number of schools with Covid19 cases?

iguana · 11-09-2020 06:07PM

utmbuilder wrote: »

We have not gotten her tested 2 days in but i want to so winning that argument at the moment with my wife.

You are supposed to call your GP and report a new cough. The GP then decides if a test is needed. It's not nice, I had to do it with my 7 year old yesterday. But people absolutely need to do this if we have any hope at all of handling it and avoiding a second lockdown, at least for as long as possible. Until you get a negative test result back, everyone in the house has to isolate at home. And even with a negative result, the child should be symptom free for 48 hours before returning to school.

punisher5112 · 11-09-2020 06:08PM

Call and test are free... Some people were thinking they would have to pay. You call your own gp at no cost.

utmbuilder · 11-09-2020 06:12PM

I called a GP yesterday no doctor available to talk,

and a GP today on testing, finally told to call DDOC to setup an appointment at a testing centre.

Shes in great form but the cough is a really hacking one.

I think DDOC might be able to talk us through getting an appointment for testing, we are in Meath.

combat14 · 11-09-2020 06:14PM

vid36 wrote: »

What is the latest number of schools with Covid19 cases?

Dont know anymore cant keep count there has been a flood of covid letters sent out by the looks of it

another 200 confirmed cases again today

utmbuilder · 11-09-2020 06:16PM

Thanks guys for the reply sorry if I am coming across as an idiot when it comes to this stuff i do follow the rules.

After hiding from this thing for the year, its so hard to just suddenly open your house up to the virus by the kids in school.

No other option.

irishblessing · 11-09-2020 06:17PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

And this with hand sanitiser pretty much flowing in their veins.

Soooo... with deep cleaning, social distancing, hand washing, sanitising supposed to be happening- is this pointing to a failure there in that whole protocol?

Van.Bosch · 11-09-2020 06:17PM

utmbuilder wrote: »

I called a GP yesterday no doctor available to talk,

and a GP today on testing, finally told to call DDOC to setup an appointment at a testing centre.

Shes in great form but the cough is a really hacking one.

I think DDOC might be able to talk us through getting an appointment for testing, we are in Meath.

Same boat here. New cough this morning called doc, sent for test. Son hasn’t coughed since!

Isolation for 5 days but it’s the right thing to do.

Double O Seven · 11-09-2020 06:20PM

It was madness to close the schools in the first place.

youngblood · 11-09-2020 06:21PM

combat14 wrote: »

Dont know anymore cant keep count there has been a flood of covid letters sent out by the looks of it

another 200 confirmed cases again today

As of yesterday, 52 & 1 pre school

According to new reports, schools will not be closing again, regardless of how serious the spread becomes

patsman07 · 11-09-2020 06:28PM

utmbuilder,

I'm a teacher. Since returning we've had children off and I heard today that one of the children who is off is currently waiting on a test. However I think it's worth stating that it's normal for children to pick up (non-covid) bugs when they start/return to school as their immune system isn't used to circulating with so many people. Also I think Covid tests are returning a very low positivity rate, meaning that despite your child's symptoms, it's highly unlikely to be Covid. I'd still proceed with getting the test though, just in case.

I thought in my school parents would flout the rules, but I have to say they aren't. Children are being kept off and aren't returning for the 48hr period. So in my experience, and the experience of other teachers in other schools that I have spoken to, the rules are being followed by the vast vast majority.

From your entire post you seem very anxious about the whole situation. If you are a parent of a child in school you are unlikely to be old enough for your age to be a risk factor. I hope you and your family have none of the underlying conditions that cause issues with Covid. If that is the case I would worry that your anxiety is causing you to worry excessively. A relative of mine is hasn't left her house since March and no amount of re-assurance over the phone seems to help her. Contact your GP if you think you might have similar tendencies.

irishblessing · 11-09-2020 06:29PM

youngblood wrote: »

As of yesterday, 52 & 1 pre school

According to new reports, schools will not be closing again, regardless of how serious the spread becomes

Well I'll be pulling my kids if it's a serious spread, as I suspect many others will do. They will need to address it.

Grandeeod · 11-09-2020 06:32PM

youngblood wrote: »

As of yesterday, 52 & 1 pre school

According to new reports, schools will not be closing again, regardless of how serious the spread becomes

If true, then that is so very careless.

Grandeeod · 11-09-2020 06:33PM

irishblessing wrote: »

Well I'll be pulling my kids if it's a serious spread, as I suspect many others will do. They will need to address it.

Likewise and without any hesitation.

morebabies · 11-09-2020 06:34PM

youngblood wrote: »

As of yesterday, 52 & 1 pre school

According to new reports, schools will not be closing again, regardless of how serious the spread becomes

Where did you see that do you mind my asking?

I'm having a really hard time since my kids have been back, we're high risk because of asthma but not extremely high risk, thank God. But my lot caught a virus after 1 week and have spent the last week off as per GP advice, though without a test. And I know this will only be the start of their winter viruses, we'll be out of school more than in, and there's no provision for repeated prolonged absences for our category in any of the Department's plans as far as I know.

How will schools be able to go back in September? (Continued)

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