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2020 the battle of the septuagenarians - Trump vs Biden, Part 2

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  • #6932
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,962 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Was he not nominated before?
    This is like deja vu.

    in 2018. by the same MP


  • #6933
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Trump's main motivation to win a NPP is because Obama got one

    This is exactly it. He is so thin-skinned that he just wants people to tell him how good he is.


  • #6934
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Faugheen wrote: »
    This is exactly it. He is so thin-skinned that he just wants people to tell him how good he is.

    Not that he's good in this aspect, but he's a better president than Obama


  • #6935
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭threeball


    duploelabs wrote: »
    Not that he's good in this aspect, but he's a better president than Obama

    Obama wasn't a good president but no one has been as utterly pathetic as Trump. Not even Nixon.


  • #6936
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,021 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    threeball wrote: »
    Obama wasn't a good president but no one has been as utterly pathetic as Trump. Not even Nixon.

    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.


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  • #6937
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The Nal wrote: »
    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.

    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.


  • #6938
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,041 ✭✭✭threeball


    The Nal wrote: »
    Nixon was great in parts. Should've gone down as the best ever.

    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....


  • #6939
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    threeball wrote: »
    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....

    And the impending impeachment


  • #6940
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,021 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.
    threeball wrote: »
    Apart from his handling of the Vietnam war and Watergate obviously....

    And committing treason

    When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election

    He did end the Vietnam war and the draft though.


  • #6941
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,962 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The Nal wrote: »
    And committing treason

    When a Candidate Conspired With a Foreign Power to Win An Election

    He did end the Vietnam war and the draft though.

    arguably he prolonged the vietnam war. Johnson had the north and south ready to agree a deal but nixon screwed it up.


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  • #6942
    The Nal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,021 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    arguably he prolonged the vietnam war. Johnson had the north and south ready to agree a deal but nixon screwed it up.

    Possibly but that remained to be seen. Fascinating either way. Johnsons dealings with Vietnam were hardly Nobel Peace prize worthy to that point.


  • #6943
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,899 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Apart from the Rampant Corruption and Paranoia parts.

    That's why they love #IMPOTUS so much, he is Nixons double.


  • #6944
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,766 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    That's why they love #IMPOTUS so much, he is Nixons double.

    Hasn't got a fraction of Nixon's brain. I don't recall Nixon being such a massive narcissist, married to the same woman for decades, personal life pretty boring. Brutally smart and vicious GOP operative. Nixon actually achieved a lot of things. The #IMPOTUS, almost nothing in 4 years positive, and lots and lots of negatives.


  • #6945
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    In new tapes, President Trump admits to Bob Woodward he concealed critical details he knew about the coronavirus. "I wanted to always play it down."

    He said that, on tape?


  • #6946
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Cody montana wrote: »
    In new tapes, President Trump admits to Bob Woodward he concealed critical details he knew about the coronavirus. "I wanted to always play it down."

    He said that, on tape?

    Yes.. He did... The recordings are on CNN

    Here's what he said on February 7th
    This is more deadly. This is five per- you know, this is five percent versus one percent and less than one percent. You know? So, this is deadly stuff.


    This was when he was saying that it wasn't a big deal in public and saying that it was going away very soon etc.


  • #6947
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Hasn't got a fraction of Nixon's brain. I don't recall Nixon being such a massive narcissist, married to the same woman for decades, personal life pretty boring. Brutally smart and vicious GOP operative. Nixon actually achieved a lot of things. The #IMPOTUS, almost nothing in 4 years positive, and lots and lots of negatives.


    Nixon was, as you said, no thicko. He was a high-achiever from a very modest background. If you leave aside the clusterf*ck of Watergate - which rightly tarnished his name - he was actually quite a forward-thinking policy maker, there were a lot of innovations in his tenure - he surrounded himself with hard-workers who had something between the ears.

    For all his faults - and they were many - Nixon's cabinet members and staff were nowhere near as grotesque as Trump's, and it goes without saying he would leave the Donald in the dust intellectually.


  • #6948
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,101 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Yes.. He did... The recordings are on CNN

    Here's what he said on February 7th




    This was when he was saying that it wasn't a big deal in public and saying that it was going away very soon etc.

    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.


  • #6949
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,962 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.

    how many time has that been written about trump? this wont affect his base at all.


  • #6950
    Quin_Dub
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,908 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.

    Sadly - No.

    For almost all Republican voters there is literally nothing that he could do that would make them vote for Biden.

    A few might sit the Election out , but the number that would switch sides at this stage is negligible.

    This might help in the suburbs among the Independent voters and might drive increased engagement from Democrat voters , but it's really not going to impact that core vote.


  • #6951
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,331 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Like all Trump revelations his supporters will downplay and everyone else will be outraged. Will it change any minds? I doubt it.


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  • #6952
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,383 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Daddy was just trying to reassure people and not cause panic

    It's what good leaders do


  • #6953
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Cody montana wrote: »
    Donald Trump puts his rape defense on the taxpayer: Bill Barr's DOJ steps in to fight off defamation lawsuit brought by advice columnist E. Jean Carroll claiming he was 'acting as president' when he called her a liar.

    If he was then he was unduly influencing a potential jury


  • #6954
    duploelabs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,019 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Overheal wrote: »
    If he was then he was unduly influencing a potential jury

    He has form in the Roger Stone case


  • #6955
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    As already discussed:

    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203

    Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize after helping to broker Israel-UAE deal

    "For his merit, I think he has done more trying to create peace between nations than most other Peace Prize nominees," Mr Tybring-Gjedde, a four-term member of parliament, told the channel.

    On Tuesday, a White House official announced Mr Trump will hold a signing ceremony on 15 September for a groundbreaking Middle East agreement normalising relations between Israel and the UAE.

    This ceremony will be a great watch, these troubled nations coming together in peace. I have personally refereed to Trump as the "peace president" due to his commitment to getting the Abraham Accords brokered as well as being the first president to set foot in North Korea. If he wins the Nobel prize, I think he will be widely known as the Peace President.


  • #6956
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Like all Trump revelations his supporters will downplay and everyone else will be outraged. Will it change any minds? I doubt it.

    Most of the Trump supporters on here are conspiracy theory believers etc and according to them, grabbing women by the pussy automatically means consent, so going to say no.


  • #6957
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Daddy was just trying to reassure people and not cause panic

    It's what good leaders do

    I would have preferred that claims and quotes from the book were released without the audio. It's always fun to see Trump's fans go from "It didn't happen" to "Of course he said that and he was right".


  • #6958
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,153 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Kidchameleon wrote: »

    This ceremony will be a great watch, these troubled nations coming together in peace. I have personally refereed to Trump as the "peace president" due to his commitment to getting the Abraham Accords brokered as well as being the first president to set foot in North Korea. If he wins the Nobel prize, I think he will be widely known as the Peace President.

    Trump inciting violence
    "Part of the problem ... is nobody wants to hurt each other anymore."
    "In the good old days this doesn't happen because they used to treat them very, very rough."
    “They used to treat them very, very rough, and when they protested once, they would not do it again so easily,” he said, before lamenting "we've become weak."
    At a Las Vegas rally in late February, as a protester was again being removed from the premises, Trump lamented that "we're not allowed to punch back anymore" and reminisced about the halcyon "old days," when a protester would "be carried out on a stretcher."
    Mr Trump said on Tuesday: "If Iran threatens us in any way, they will pay a price like few countries have ever paid."
    "The United States has great strength and patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have no choice but to totally destroy North Korea.

    Aside from the above, not sure any President who used tear gas on his own peaceful citizens who were exercising their right to protest could expect to win the Nobel Peace Prize.


  • #6959
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    The same far right MP nominated him in 2018 right. It’s an election season distraction.


  • #6960
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,614 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    That should be the final nail in the coffin.

    What about all those supporters claiming it all a hoax the last few months? Trump played them for fools.
    All those defending that he couldn't have known. They look like idiots.

    He actively went out of his way to play it down, and this made the problem way worse that it ever needed to be. Even in April he was pushing for churches to open, all the time knowing that the very people that go to church, the older portion of the population, were particularly at risk.

    You are joking, right?

    His supporters don't care.
    They've flipflopped on every principal they had and bent over backwards to defend the indefensible.


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  • #6961
    dwayneshintzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭dwayneshintzy


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    As already discussed:

    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize-12067203

    Donald Trump nominated for Nobel Peace Prize after helping to broker Israel-UAE deal

    "For his merit, I think he has done more trying to create peace between nations than most other Peace Prize nominees," Mr Tybring-Gjedde, a four-term member of parliament, told the channel.

    On Tuesday, a White House official announced Mr Trump will hold a signing ceremony on 15 September for a groundbreaking Middle East agreement normalising relations between Israel and the UAE.

    This ceremony will be a great watch, these troubled nations coming together in peace. I have personally refereed to Trump as the "peace president" due to his commitment to getting the Abraham Accords brokered as well as being the first president to set foot in North Korea. If he wins the Nobel prize, I think he will be widely known as the Peace President.
    Can you explain why visiting North Korea is a great thing worthy of praise, but the nuclear deal in Iran reached under the previous administration isn't?


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