People who want "Foreva Lockdown"

Double O Seven · 09-09-2020 10:20am #1

I think it would be interesting to discuss the psychology of these people, I wouldn't mind if they were genuinely worried about the virus and the health service but it seems to me that these people are long-term unemployed who have hardly left the house since they did their leaving cert in 1999, so for the first time in their lives they felt normal during lockdown.Then you have the Justin Barrett type fans who want to "close the boarders" not because they want to stop the virus coming in but because they hate all foreigners.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 10:22am

Also a load from a certain sector working from home on full pay.

Not doing a lot of work.

Suits a lot of people.

Graham · 09-09-2020 10:27am

Can quite honestly say I haven't come across anyone looking for a permanent lockdown.

In real life or online.

Quantum Erasure · 09-09-2020 10:29am

The psychology of people who post in threads like this would be muck more interesting

Allinall · 09-09-2020 10:30am

Graham wrote: »

Can quite honestly say I haven't come across anyone looking for a permanent lockdown.

In real life or online.

+1.

OP is imagining things and people that aren't there.

09-09-2020 10:34am

Lovely piece of fiction OP. Were you looking for the short stories thread?

Elwood_Blues · 09-09-2020 10:36am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Also a load from a certain sector working from home on full pay.

Not doing a lot of work.

Suits a lot of people.

Not sure if you've ever worked from home but in my humble opinion you're talking a load of b****x. I work from home and am thankful I can as for one it cuts up to 4 hours off my journey to and from work each day. I actually worked from home a couple of days a week anyways before Covid kicked off as I find you actually end up being more productive if you're set up correctly and have a dedicated work space.

When I'm in the office I tend to waste more time chatting with people, going for coffee's, taking longer breaks and so on.

Working from home is a privilege and my manager will still know if I'm dossing or actually meeting/exceeding my targets. The last thing I would want to do is take the piss and ruin that privilege I've been given.

odyssey06 · 09-09-2020 10:40am

I think you are confusing Foreva Lockdown with the Witness Protection Programme.

jd1983 · 09-09-2020 10:40am

Allinall wrote: »

+1.

OP is imagining things and people that aren't there.

I assumed the op was talking about these imbeciles: https://mobile.twitter.com/zerocovidisland?lang=en

However they're not unemployed, they seem to be mainly academics and scientists with the worse tunnel vision I've ever seen in public life. They seem to be concentrated on one kpi (I.e. covid infections) and ignoring everything else (e.g. other health problems like cancer & mental health, the economy etc).

I reckon morons like this will drive people into supporting Trump like characters who denounce experts who are willing to sacrifice people's livelihood.

Westernyelp · 09-09-2020 10:41am

Elwood_Blues wrote:

Working from home is a privilege and my manager will still know if I'm dossing or actually meeting/exceeding my targets. The last thing I would want to do is take the piss and ruin that privilege I've been given.

Works by from home is a pain in the hole. All those distractions you talk about are part of life and the things that keep you from being a monitored drone

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 10:42am

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

Not sure if you've ever worked from home but in my humble opinion you're talking a load of b****x. I work from home and am thankful I can as for one it cuts up to 4 hours off my journey to and from work each day. I actually worked from home a couple of days a week anyways before Covid kicked off as I find you actually end up being more productive if you're set up correctly and have a dedicated work space.

When I'm in the office I tend to waste more time chatting with people, going for coffee's, taking longer breaks and so on.

Working from home is a privilege and my manager will still know if I'm dossing or actually meeting/exceeding my targets. The last thing I would want to do is take the piss and ruin that privilege I've been given.

Note my words a certain sector.

MadYaker · 09-09-2020 10:43am

Double O Seven wrote: »

I think it would be interesting to discuss the psychology of these people, I wouldn't mind if they were genuinely worried about the virus and the health service but it seems to me that these people are long-term unemployed who have hardly left the house since they did their leaving cert in 1999, so for the first time in their lives they felt normal during lockdown.Then you have the Justin Barrett type fans who want to "close the boarders" not because they want to stop the virus coming in but because they hate all foreigners.

This all in your head. Maybe you should talk to someone?

Elwood_Blues · 09-09-2020 10:44am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Note my words a certain sector.

Fair enough but what if I work in that certain sector. I don't explicitly know which one you're talking about.

I'll admit though I took your post quite personal which is stupid I know.

CalamariFritti · 09-09-2020 10:45am

While I'm pretty much in the 'get on with it' camp myself I think the thread title and sentiment is a bit extreme.
I dont think anyone wants to be in lockdown never mind forever.

Its more people having what they believe are genuine concerns. They may be genuine, too. Some may even have had first hand experience. Either way hard to blame anyone for being concerned with the scare campaign that's continuing in our media.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 10:45am

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

Fair enough but what if I work in that certain sector. I don't explicitly know which one you're talking about.

I'll admit though I took your post quite personal which is stupid I know.

Jesus don't take it personal, none of us are getting out of here alive:)

DangerScouse · 09-09-2020 10:47am

Double O Seven wrote: »

I think it would be interesting to discuss the psychology of these people, I wouldn't mind if they were genuinely worried about the virus and the health service but it seems to me that these people are long-term unemployed who have hardly left the house since they did their leaving cert in 1999, so for the first time in their lives they felt normal during lockdown.Then you have the Justin Barrett type fans who want to "close the boarders" not because they want to stop the virus coming in but because they hate all foreigners.

Go for a walk OP and clear your head. You are imagining this stuff.

iguana · 09-09-2020 10:48am

I don't think you can really discuss the psychology of a non-existent type of person? Or can you? Maybe this calls for a philosophical discussion about how possible it is to discuss the psychology of traits that don't exist is necessary first?

Blondini · 09-09-2020 10:53am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Also a load from a certain sector working from home on full pay.

Not doing a lot of work.

Suits a lot of people.

Some prople here dont do an awful lot of work anyway.

They are here 24 hours a day with their childish ridiculousness..

Pfffttt

paw patrol · 09-09-2020 10:56am

The Op may be exaggerating a bit with "lockdown foreva" but we had posters in the restrictions thread who wanted no nightclubs and other social aspects of society reopened until a vaccine was developed even if that was years in the making.

But there is a large cohort out there that think the lockdown/restrictions wasn't/is enough and demand more measures. They are the people I think the OP is talking about.

Add to that the gobsh1tes that glare at you in fear and panic from behind their masks. The curtain twitchers and the poster on board who asked was there a ratting hotline..people who call others granny-killers and all that

I'm repeating myself (again) but covid19 has shown up a huge number of people out there who will do anything to be seen to support the government line/status quo . People who you just know would be ringing the secret police if we had one.

It could be a film , 2020 - Rise of the Curtain Twitchers.

hayoc · 09-09-2020 10:59am

paw patrol wrote: »

It could be a film , 2020 - Rise of the Curtain Mask Twitchers.

FYP

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 11:02am

Blondini wrote: »

You don't do an awful lot of work yourself there horse.

You're here 24 hours a day with your childish ridiculousness..

Pfffttt

Hit a nerve did i:)

Hmm I wonder why!!

I have 10 posts in the last 24 hours here all after 6pm.

So yeah maybe youre thinking of yourself...

redmgar · 09-09-2020 11:06am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Hit a never did i:)

Hmm I wonder why!!

I have 10 posts in the last 24 hours here all after 6pm.

So yeah maybe youre thinking of yourself...

You were so excited to reply you couldn't get the words out.

begbysback · 09-09-2020 11:07am

Graham wrote: »

Can quite honestly say I haven't come across anyone looking for a permanent lockdown.

In real life or online.

Seriously? Im not sure of lately because Ive had to cut down on covid threads for mental health reasons, but a couple of months back there was an army of lockdown merchants. Sure there was a whole thread where they congregated and attacked anyone who wanted more freedom.

Graham · 09-09-2020 11:07am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Also a load from a certain sector working from home on full pay.

Not doing a lot of work.

Shouldn't you be working

Graham · 09-09-2020 11:08am

begbysback wrote: »

Seriously? Im not sure of lately because Ive had to cut down on covid threads for mental health reasons, but a couple of months back there was an army of lockdown merchants. Sure there was a whole thread where they congregated and attacked anyone who wanted more freedom.

There's a world of difference between a temporary lockdown and the "Foreva".

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 11:09am

redmgar wrote: »

You were so excited to reply you couldn't get the words out.

Just corrected it there.

Thanks for noticing:)

begbysback · 09-09-2020 11:09am

iguana wrote: »

I don't think you can really discuss the psychology of a non-existent type of person? Or can you? Maybe this calls for a philosophical discussion about how possible it is to discuss the psychology of traits that don't exist is necessary first?

Or maybe we need a philosophical discussion on the type of person who doesnt see, or chooses not to see, a particular type of person?

Blondini · 09-09-2020 11:10am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Hit a never did i:)

Hmm I wonder why!!

I have 10 posts in the last 24 hours here all after 6pm.

So yeah maybe youre thinking of yourself...

nO yOu diDNt hiT a neveR.

I'm not working from home.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 11:10am

Graham wrote: »

Shouldn't you be working

Took the morning off.

Joy's of been self employed.

09-09-2020 11:11am

I don't think anybody wants to lockdown forever. But I do see what the OP is getting at. A lot of people seem to be using the pandemic for their own agenda's and a lot of people seem to enjoy the misery of it all.

Multiple posters have brought up our drinking culture again and again on these threads and suggested that we should socialize in a more continental way. You can tell by the tone of lots of posts that some people are happy that the pubs were closed for so long.

We had a poster on here who hated bookies. Admitted that he just hated them and was delighted they were closed.

We had posters suggesting that young people should abstain from having sex and dating. We have had people actively hoping the garda get the power to break into your house and break up a get together.

I haven't seen any actual evidence that "We are all in this together".
But I have seen a very dark side to our society.

begbysback · 09-09-2020 11:12am

Graham wrote: »

There's a world of difference between a temporary lockdown and the "Foreva".

Well aware of that, and believe me, if some guys were given the keys a couple of months back, and asked to lockdown, they would have thrown them away. These are the "Foreva" people, and they very much exist.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 11:12am

Blondini wrote: »

nO yOu diDNt hiT a neveR.

I'm not working from home.

Ah yes.

Pick on my incorrect spelling, that will really get to me:)

And you're meant to be a teacher??

09-09-2020 11:17am

Graham wrote: »

Can quite honestly say I haven't come across anyone looking for a permanent lockdown.

In real life or online.

I don't think anyone is looking for a permanent lockdown either.

But there are still people who are very vulnerable to this infection and I feel they are being overlooked and dismissed, in the eagerness to get everything open.

If everyone played just their small part, wore a mask in the shops, kept their social distance, santisied their hands frequently, it would be a lot easier for everyone - including those of us who are still vulnerable - to interact with each other in a closer to normal way. It would keep numbers down, while keeping business and schools open. Those who can work from home should continue to do so, and not be mocked for it.

But as it is now, with flagrant non-compliance everywhere I go, mandatory wearing of masks in shops not being enforced, no social distances being kept, as a high risk person, who lives with another very high risk person, I do not feel I can safely interact outside of my own home and protect us from covid19.

I did enjoy being able to go into the local centra for a deli sandwich, or into starbucks for a take away coffee but with the rises in numbers I am reverting back to leaving my house for essentials only.

I can and am working from home and putting in my full hours, in fact, most days I go over my hours but don't even get time on the clock for it anymore.

All it takes is showing a little consideration for others. But this seems to beyond the scope of many. Its not really a lot to ask, but the will to do what little can be done to protect the vulnerable seems to have be lost.

Blondini · 09-09-2020 11:19am

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

And you're meant to be a teacher??

Nope.

Oranage2 · 09-09-2020 11:20am

Not as bad as the covid deniers and anti-mask morons

woodchuck · 09-09-2020 11:20am

I know 3 people who would probably fall into the "Foreva Lockdown" group. One is in her mid 30s, is on some sort of illness/disability allowance and considers herself to be a vulnerable group. The other two are an older retired couple. None of them have worked in years and are genuinely terrified of catching the virus.

They think the government is prioritising the economy over peoples safety, without really understanding what "the economy" means. They think the economy is just the government being greedy and wanting money for themselves. They don't understand that we're talking about peoples jobs, livelihood, businesses etc that they need to pay their bills and put food on the table. It's very easy not to give a damn about the economy when you're not working. They don't seem to make the connection that we need people working and paying taxes in order to fund state benefits/pensions.

The older couple are a little more open minded and recognise that younger people need some sort of social life, however limited atm. They just choose to keep themselves to themselves for their own safety. The younger person thinks we should all be locked up until there's a vaccine. "Covidiot" is now part of her daily vocabulary and has a massive rant on social media any time the restrictions are loosened and/or there is an increase in cases. She's against everything - restaurants reopening, schools reopening, she's even cutting her own hair still to avoid going to a hairdresser. It's crazy stuff.

Jinglejangle69 · 09-09-2020 11:20am

Blondini wrote: »

Nope.

Thank god for that.

IHaveTheFlag · 09-09-2020 11:20am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I don't think anybody wants to lockdown forever. But I do see what the OP is getting at. A lot of people seem to be using the pandemic for their own agenda's and a lot of people seem to enjoy the misery of it all.

Multiple posters have brought up our drinking culture again and again on these threads and suggested that we should socialize in a more continental way. You can tell by the tone of lots of posts that some people are happy that the pubs were closed for so long.

We had a poster on here who hated bookies. Admitted that he just hated them and was delighted they were closed.

We had posters suggesting that young people should abstain from having sex and dating. We have had people actively hoping the garda get the power to break into your house and break up a get together.

I haven't seen any actual evidence that "We are all in this together".
But I have seen a very dark side to our society.

Some people's attitudes towards pre marital sex, drinking and gambling would make Archbishop McQuaid blush.

storker · 09-09-2020 11:22am

Elwood_Blues wrote: »

Working from home is a privilege and my manager will still know if I'm dossing or actually meeting/exceeding my targets. The last thing I would want to do is take the piss and ruin that privilege I've been given.

And in any case, working from home doesn't require a lockdown, something the OP doesn't appear to have figured out yet.

Man Vs ManUre · 09-09-2020 11:23am

Supermarkets have been doing booming business since this virus started, so they are probably hoping work from home and maybe even some form of lockdown is an ongoing thing.

storker · 09-09-2020 11:24am

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think you are confusing Foreva Lockdown with the Witness Protection Programme.

I'm often reminded of the Witness Protection Programme during Zoom meetings, where some participants can be back-lit and just appear in silhouette.

KaneToad · 09-09-2020 11:27am

I think you might be misreading people.

I want an end to this virus.

I also want :

more people working from home,
less traffic on our roads,
less congestion on public transport,
more opportunity to live/work in urban areas outside of the big cities,
less reliance on pubs for social occasions,
more people washing hands,
more people spending money in local areas,
more people avoiding others when they are unwell,
more consideration for others in your community,
less focus on materialism,
more consideration given to personal health.

The lockdown/pandemic has brought a lot of these things about. I don't want the pandemic to persist (only a psycho would) but I can't lie and say that I'm not happy with the emergence of the above.

I hope these unexpected pandemic behaviours persist.

redmgar · 09-09-2020 11:55am

I think some people are enjoying the fact they can work from home so that public guidance suits them.
A small number may have enjoyed the drama of the full national lockdown, but cant imagine many want that back. And anyways it cant come back.

Hrududu · 09-09-2020 12:01pm

storker wrote: »

I'm often reminded of the Witness Protection Programme during Zoom meetings, where some participants can be back-lit and just appear in silhouette.

Ha there is always at least one person in a meeting who looks like a whistleblower being protected for their bit on crime watch

keenanem · 09-09-2020 12:23pm

I don't believe people want forever lock down but there are people with health issues or not who are just terrified of getting it or passing it onto someone else.

I do think we will need to learn to live with it to a certain degree until a vaccine is developed to which we will then have to hear from all the anti vaccine people

paw patrol · 09-09-2020 1:13pm

KaneToad wrote: »

I think you might be misreading people.

I want an end to this virus.

I also want :

more people working from home,
less traffic on our roads,
less congestion on public transport,
more opportunity to live/work in urban areas outside of the big cities,
less reliance on pubs for social occasions,
more people washing hands,
more people spending money in local areas,
more people avoiding others when they are unwell,
more consideration for others in your community,
less focus on materialism,
more consideration given to personal health.

The lockdown/pandemic has brought a lot of these things about. I don't want the pandemic to persist (only a psycho would) but I can't lie and say that I'm not happy with the emergence of the above.

I hope these unexpected pandemic behaviours persist.

while i think it's great that you hold this ideals , some people (not you precisely) want to use covid to keep these implemented by force.

I agree with most of what you say - i do them myself bar the pub one. I really like getting pissed drunk tbh...but id' never enforce them on others and that's the key i think

Graham · 09-09-2020 1:34pm

paw patrol wrote: »

The Op may be exaggerating a bit with "lockdown foreva" but we had posters in the restrictions thread who wanted no nightclubs and other social aspects of society reopened until a vaccine was developed even if that was years in the making.

But there is a large cohort out there that think the lockdown/restrictions wasn't/is enough and demand more measures. They are the people I think the OP is talking about.

Add to that the gobsh1tes that glare at you in fear and panic from behind their masks. The curtain twitchers and the poster on board who asked was there a ratting hotline..people who call others granny-killers and all that

I'm repeating myself (again) but covid19 has shown up a huge number of people out there who will do anything to be seen to support the government line/status quo . People who you just know would be ringing the secret police if we had one.

It could be a film , 2020 - Rise of the Curtain Twitchers.

Events like this always bring out the fringe elements/extremists and general nutjobs.

From the ultra-left/right trying to politicise everything down to your regular garden variety tinfoil-hatters and their conspiracy theories.

Fortunately neither are difficult to spot and neither represent the vast majority.

Arghus · 09-09-2020 8:37pm

I want to understand the psychology of people who think there's actually people out there who want lockdown to continue indefinitely.

Jim Root · 09-09-2020 8:44pm

What sector are ye all referring to?

alentejo · 09-09-2020 8:44pm

I want Dublin city to return to some level of normality. The WFH has had serious consequences for our capital city

begbysback · 09-09-2020 9:14pm

Jim Root wrote: »

What sector are ye all referring to?

Not the one where you have to work to earn a living

People who want "Foreva Lockdown"

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